Canada's 50 Tallest Proposals - Page 362

DrNest · #**7221** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 4:14 PM**

I can see your point Biff, but personally I think these three Mirvish towers will actually work best in their close proximity. They will become iconic as a whole, and I believe more so by being together than 'randomly' dotted about the skyline.

caltrane74 · #**7222** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 5:42 PM**

Now that an application permit has been filed for construction of the foundation of Harbour Plaza, it's construction limbo status will be clearified shortly, I suppose.

Once approved, we could get another two 200 meter towers under construction for Toronto and Canada.

Work on Shoring at Harbour Plaza from a couple months back.... by me

Chadillaccc · #**7223** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 5:54 PM**

Can't believe how fast Ice I went up. They are flying on those beasts

caltrane74 · #**7224** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 6:05 PM**

The are removing the wires from the building on which be demolished to make way for 88 Scott - 205 meters.

It's getting that much closer to site prep!!!

Chadillaccc · #**7225** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 6:09 PM**

Surrey City Council just approved the construction of the 160 - 164 meter Surrey City Centre tower. It will be the third tallest in Metro Vancouver upon completion, and tallest in the province outside of Vancouver unless the Station Square and Solo District main towers (163 and 170 meters respectively) are built before that.

caltrane74 · #**7226** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 6:12 PM**

The Vancouver Region is making its presence felt in the Top 50 list.

LeftCoaster · #**7227** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 8:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

Now that an application permit has been filed for construction of the foundation of Harbour Plaza, it's construction limbo status will be clearified shortly, I suppose.

Once approved, we could get another two 200 meter towers under construction for Toronto and Canada.

Will likely be a while between approval and construction. Oxford has their hands full with 1 York and 100 Adelaide west right now. As far as I know they don't even have a solidified JV partner for the res, although I wouldn't be surprised to see menkes jump on board.

Also this one should be in the 250m range. It was originally one of the sites contemplated for a 300M+ tower but it was deemed not to be feasable.

FrankieFlowerpot · #**7228** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 8:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Will likely be a while between approval and construction. Oxford has their hands full with 1 York and 100 Adelaide west right now. As far as I know they don't even have a solidified JV partner for the res, although I wouldn't be surprised to see menkes jump on board.

Also this one should be in the 250m range. It was originally one of the sites contemplated for a 300M+ tower but it was deemed not to be feasable.

Isn't this One York?

caltrane74 · #**7229** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 8:29 PM**

I'm confused, One York is Menkes, not Oxford.

Oxford is a partner in this development at the most I believe.

As far as Harbour Plaza is concerned, I thought Menkes, was moving forward on that project, solo...

Ramako · #**7230** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 8:59 PM**

I think LC's talking about the 60 Harbour site.

caltrane74 · #**7231** Posted **Apr 11, 2013, 11:40 PM**

The Perfect House

The new 1 Yonge needs big buildings built to human scale

John Bentley Mays

Special to The Globe and Mail

Published Thursday, Apr. 11 2013, 12:15 PM EDT

Last updated Thursday, Apr. 11 2013, 12:18 PM EDT

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And indeed, it does make sense – at least when seen, as Mr. Pontarini suggests, from a considerable altitude. Glimpsed from up there, the first few miles of Yonge Street will soon seem like a narrow corridor lined by massive buildings, including Great Gulf Homes’s 75-storey One Bloor and MOD Developments’ 60-storey Massey Tower, both designed by Mr. Pontarini. Adding an 88-storey skyscraper, together with a few other companion-pieces ranging between 40 and 80 storeys, at the bottom of Yonge Street will merely be like putting a “bookend” (the architect’s word) on a long shelf of large “books” that already exist (or will soon exist).

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/home...gs-built-to-human-scale/article11054891/

LeftCoaster · #**7232** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 3:49 PM**

Ahh sorry all, I saw the harbour 60 steakhouse sign in the picture and assumed Cal was talking about the 60 harbour site.

What I said is all still valid, just for the wrong project

Innsertnamehere · #**7233** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 4:03 PM**

ooohh and another juicy rumour left by leftcoaster.. so 60 harbour has a residential and office component, will be around 250 meters tall, and is under Oxford mangement? Interesting..

DrNest · #**7234** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 6:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Also this one should be in the 250m range. It was originally one of the sites contemplated for a 300M+ tower but it was deemed not to be feasable.

Out of interest, what were the reasons that deemed it unfeasible? I would have thought that location would be quite suited to something in the 300-400m range. I'm guessing there were other criteria such as finance, potential occupancy etc that would have swayed that height decision.

caltrane74 · #**7235** Posted **Apr 12, 2013, 8:19 PM**

glad to see that there will be more projects in the pipeline, when the markets re-adjust themselves.

WhipperSnapper · #**7236** Posted **Apr 13, 2013, 8:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

The Mirvish project intrigues me. I think if built, they have the potential to be iconic Toronto buildings. It's just sad that IF they get through all the hurdles and actually get approved at their current height, it would take at least 7-8 years to construct. Based on this, the project won't be complete until at least 2023.

You think approval is a hurdle when it comes to this development? I'm not suggesting it will pass with relative ease in its current form either. Something this large should be scrutinized. Mirvish and Gehry need partners and I see this as a monumental hurdle of epic proportions with their inexperience and blown budgets.

Gresto · #**7237** Posted **Apr 13, 2013, 9:12 PM**

With regard to 1 Yonge, Harbour Plaza, and some of the other waterfront proposals, if they are approved and go into sales, I'm afraid the Porter Air expansion announcement is going to give many prospective condo buyers cold feet.

DrNest · #**7238** Posted **Apr 13, 2013, 9:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gresto

With regard to 1 Yonge, Harbour Plaza, and some of the other waterfront proposals, if they are approved and go into sales, I'm afraid the Porter Air expansion announcement is going to give many prospective condo buyers cold feet.

Apart from those that like to travel and will welcome having further destinations available from an airport so close to home. Better than the slog of trying to get to Pearson from Downtown.

Gresto · #**7239** Posted **Apr 13, 2013, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by DrNest

Apart from those that like to travel and will welcome having further destinations available from an airport so close to home. Better than the slog of trying to get to Pearson from Downtown.

Yes, there is that contingent, but I would imagine they are substantially in the minority compared to those who don't want to buy a home next to an airport with jets. Besides, the Pearson-Union rail link isn't all that many years off.
I am almost certain Porter's jet plan will be rejected eventually, but it could very well hurt waterfront condo sales in the interim.

WhipperSnapper · #**7240** Posted **Apr 14, 2013, 12:17 AM**

I don't see the airport having an impact on sales when people are buying units within metres of the Gardiner. The average pre-registration period is three times longer than several years ago and most project come out of it more than 70% sold. It leaves me to conclude investors still have tremendous confidence and are driving the market. They certainly as knowledgable as someone planning to live in the area.