Winnipeg Construction

[bomberjet]

http://www.genstar.com/winnipeg/devonshire-village

The Devonshire Village website in Transcona West is up. Don't mind the townhouse/duplex vision. But generally typical development layouts, etc.

[viperred88]

the same Whl polling can be found on the ctv winnipeg website just scroll down to the left where it say 'Hot Links'

[chrisallard5454]

Looking at that development just proves why the old grid style of street networking was higher density. The amount of wasted space there is outstanding. The designs don't look half bad though, as long as they are kept to looking somewhat like the renderings.

Why is it that it seems every subdvision tries to portray their own development as unique and exciting when in reality if you were blindfolded and plopped down in the middle of one, aside from the street names you would be utterly clueless as to where you were.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

Looking at that development just proves why the old grid style of street networking was higher density. The amount of wasted space there is outstanding. The designs don't look half bad though, as long as they are kept to looking somewhat like the renderings.

Why is it that it seems every subdvision tries to portray their own development as unique and exciting when in reality if you were blindfolded and plopped down in the middle of one, aside from the street names you would be utterly clueless as to where you were.

My transit senses aren't tingling, I barely see any opporitunity for a future transit route unless its through the major streets

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by armorand93

My transit senses aren't tingling, I barely see any opporitunity for a future transit route unless its through the major streets

Future plans for the CEMR Pine Falls Sub to be a rapid transit line. Pretty light use already on that line. Goes right through the Regent strip and by the casino. Hopefully when the eastern transitory studies start, they shed some light on that.

[benjennium]

Hi all, I'm new to the forum; I've been watching it for a few weeks now, and I appreciate you all keeping me up to date on construction projects in Winnipeg!

I was on the U of W website, and noticed a difference in the rendering for the new field house. It looks like a totally different design, and I think it's much cheaper and uglier than what was there the last time I checked. What do you think?



From: http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/index/field-house

(P.S. Let me know if I violate any forum rules!)

[Mininari]

Welcome to the forum!

Yes, it wouldn't surprise me if, yet again, an architect's masterpiece went to the budget guys, and they said 'nope, tone this down a bit. We can't afford this.'

[tedtim]

looks like the UofW is getting is own Shoppers Drug Mart.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by tedtim

looks like the UofW is getting is own Shoppers Drug Mart.

It's own Shoppers? Where?

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by armorand93

It's own Shoppers? Where?

Umm i think he was making a joke, in that the new field house renders look a bit like a shoppers drug mart.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

The amount of wasted space there is outstanding.

If you are talking about the stormwater retention ponds, they are a necessary part of any new development.

I noticed the development also includes the obligatory "proposed school site".

[Mininari]

Lol, it does look like a shopper's.
I wonder if it will be open 24 hours...

[drew]

Originally Posted by Mininari

Yes, it wouldn't surprise me if, yet again, an architect's masterpiece went to the budget guys, and they said 'nope, tone this down a bit. We can't afford this.'

The architect should be responsible to determine a basic "budget" to base the render on - to make it as realistic as possible and to avoid massive cutbacks when the numbers come in.

To be fair, sometimes renders are done prior to a final budget being set.

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by Mininari

Lol, it does look like a shopper's.
I wonder if it will be open 24 hours...

The Back End Of Shoppers in the Village, Can't wait for the skywalk to Safeway! Love the brick work..

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by drew

The architect should be responsible to determine a basic "budget" to base the render on - to make it as realistic as possible and to avoid massive cutbacks when the numbers come in.

To be fair, sometimes renders are done prior to a final budget being set.

budgets change, programs change.

[chrisallard5454]

Originally Posted by Riverman

If you are talking about the stormwater retention ponds, they are a necessary part of any new development.

I noticed the development also includes the obligatory "proposed school site".

I wasn't in fact referring to the retention ponds, as I am aware of their necessity in current developments. I was referring to the amount of space taken up per unit compared to the surrounding subdivisions even, let alone the old grid developments.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

I wasn't in fact referring to the retention ponds, as I am aware of their necessity in current developments. I was referring to the amount of space taken up per unit compared to the surrounding subdivisions even, let alone the old grid developments.

Seems to be on par with the surrounding subdivisions (some also by Genstar) in terms of unit density. It may be deceiving the way they have it shown.

On the retention ponds, the bottom two are existing ponds. With the larger one being a deep pond/snow dump. I wonder if that location will continue to be used as a snow dump. It sure is ugly there.

[chrisallard5454]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Seems to be on par with the surrounding subdivisions (some also by Genstar) in terms of unit density. It may be deceiving the way they have it shown.

On the retention ponds, the bottom two are existing ponds. With the larger one being a deep pond/snow dump. I wonder if that location will continue to be used as a snow dump. It sure is ugly there.

That is fine, I will never like new developments provided that they continue to build them the way that they currently do. However the designs for the town-housing and multi family portions don't look half bad.

Either way, I won't be travelling through the subdivision when it is built, so it means little to me how they build the space. It would just be nice if they provided a little extra to our current and future developments. It is sad to think that the Osborne Villages are a thing of the past.

[vid]

It's clearly a bad rendering. I doubt the houses are going to be right up against the street like that with grass in behind. They're probably just trying to make it look like there is more open space than there really is to sell units.

"Possible school sites" are perfect for when the kids who grow up in those subdivisions turn 16 and need somewhere to do donuts in their shiny new pickups. "What happened to our wonderful neighbourhood?" ask the parents of those teenagers to the local newspaper. "Your children are bored", responds reality.

[Riverman]

People buy in burbs like that because they want a decent sized yard and a double garage - hard to get both at the same time in an older, grid neighbourhood. I wouldn't want to live without both, until I turn 80.