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Old Posted Mar 29, 2013, 6:33 PM
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A Phoenix move to Quebec seems to be imminent at this point. Seattle would be a great market but the arena issue persists. One potential market that not many people point to is Houston. They've had a solid IHL and AHL franchise for a while which is rumoured to be moving to Iowa for next season. Rumblings are that the team is moving at the end of their lease to open up room for a potential replacement. Houston is a strong hockey market (stronger than Dallas) and has more adult and youth competitive hockey. I don't see a new team playing in Houston in the near future, but it's a market to keep an eye out for.



If Quebec were to enter the league it would be difficult to change the alignment without upsetting a lot of teams. Adding new teams would make the west a bit more stable (Seattle in the Pacific division, for starters). It's difficult to move Colorado back into the Pacific after giving them a much better division under this formula, and this formula is based off of time zones more than anything else. The NE division would have too many teams and the obvious teams to move would be Tampa Bay and Florida. You can't really split them up but you can't add them to either the Midwest or Atlantic without creating divisions with too many teams. Two teams that really should have been placed together are Nashville and Carolina and presumably they would have created a very strong rivalry. Having Columbus in the same division as Pittsburgh is going to make for a strong Ohio/Pennsylvania rivalry and of course having Detroit with the NE is a great move. Putting Winnipeg into a proper division with Minnesota is a no-loss situation and obviously much more ideal than their current situation.

I really like the current 2013-2014 alignment with Phoenix included, although I can't deny that moving them to Quebec would be a wise decision. At this point it's just a matter of how to deal with the division alignments moving forward once/if Quebec receives the Coyotes.
I think the ideal thing to do would be to move Coyotes to Seattle and the Panthers to Quebec. Tampa Bay seems to have pretty good support and I think that city has proven that it deserves its team so I would be against them moving. I also thought that the Islanders could be a team to move to Quebec but that team has too much history. Not to mention that they plan to move to Barclays arena.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2013, 8:25 PM
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It seems like management is giving some NHL time to our prospects. Tinordi send down while Nathan Beaulieu is called up (2011 1st round pick). That's great to see.

Speaking of prospects, here is the top 10 according Hockey's Future

1. Vladimir Tarasenko
2. Alex Galchenyuk
3. Jonathan Huberdeau
4. Dougie Hamilton
5. Nail Yakupov
6. Yevgeni Kuznetsov
7. Justin Schultz
8. Mika Zibanejad
9. Morgan Rielly
10. Sven Baertshi


http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/87...ads-hfs-ranking-of-the-top-nhl-prospects
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2013, 9:10 PM
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I think the ideal thing to do would be to move Coyotes to Seattle and the Panthers to Quebec. Tampa Bay seems to have pretty good support and I think that city has proven that it deserves its team so I would be against them moving. I also thought that the Islanders could be a team to move to Quebec but that team has too much history. Not to mention that they plan to move to Barclays arena.
Yes, the Islanders will be moving to Brooklyn for the 2014-2015 season. I really wish they would rebrand themselves as the Brooklyn Americans and wear similar jerseys to those of the 1930s and 40s. I think that would be a homerun. Rangers versus Americans? Make it happen NHL

The Panthers situation is a bit odd. The current owners of the team also own the arena in which they play in (in Sunrise). That venue is the general place for big touring acts to visit so that generates the money as the Panthers are a losing-money operation. As long as the owners make money from the concerts then presumably the Panthers are fine where they are. There are rumours that the team is being put up for sale and if that were the case then that would be the easier team to relocate to Quebec given that they are already in the correct division moving forward. That, and they already have their marquee Quebecois player in Huberdeau.

Again, I have no problem seeing Phoenix and Miami lose their teams at the expense of Seattle and Quebec. I still think Houston could work as a market and I wouldn't mind the NHL exploring possibilities in Milwaukee or Portland moving forward.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2013, 11:19 PM
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Ya, Smyth was devastated to leave the Oilers. Can't blame the guy. The Oilers are a storied franchise that he loved playing for.
Iggy on the other hand seems relieved to be gone from the Flames. Delighted to play for a real team.
How many players on the Oilers have no trade clauses.. big fat zero probably.

Iggy was a class guy and a professional. No need for fake tears. He did what was best for the team to move forward.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2013, 11:27 PM
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How many players on the Oilers have no trade clauses.. big fat zero probably.

Iggy was a class guy and a professional. No need for fake tears. He did what was best for the team to move forward.
Iggy knew in advance and got to pick where he went. Big difference.
     
     
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A Phoenix move to Quebec seems to be imminent at this point. Seattle would be a great market but the arena issue persists. One potential market that not many people point to is Houston. They've had a solid IHL and AHL franchise for a while which is rumoured to be moving to Iowa for next season. Rumblings are that the team is moving at the end of their lease to open up room for a potential replacement. Houston is a strong hockey market (stronger than Dallas) and has more adult and youth competitive hockey. I don't see a new team playing in Houston in the near future, but it's a market to keep an eye out for.



If Quebec were to enter the league it would be difficult to change the alignment without upsetting a lot of teams. Adding new teams would make the west a bit more stable (Seattle in the Pacific division, for starters). It's difficult to move Colorado back into the Pacific after giving them a much better division under this formula, and this formula is based off of time zones more than anything else. The NE division would have too many teams and the obvious teams to move would be Tampa Bay and Florida. You can't really split them up but you can't add them to either the Midwest or Atlantic without creating divisions with too many teams. Two teams that really should have been placed together are Nashville and Carolina and presumably they would have created a very strong rivalry. Having Columbus in the same division as Pittsburgh is going to make for a strong Ohio/Pennsylvania rivalry and of course having Detroit with the NE is a great move. Putting Winnipeg into a proper division with Minnesota is a no-loss situation and obviously much more ideal than their current situation.

I really like the current 2013-2014 alignment with Phoenix included, although I can't deny that moving them to Quebec would be a wise decision. At this point it's just a matter of how to deal with the division alignments moving forward once/if Quebec receives the Coyotes.
Great post, and I resonate with your thoughts

The current alignment has mostly to do with solving the problem of an NHL club in Winnipeg. Bettman made mention how its unlikely any realignment would have happened had the Thrashers stayed put. Right now, the Coyotes are still in Phoenix so they'll approach it that way. Though I share your puzzlement over if the Coyotes do move to Québec, what the best solution would be .

The fact it helped out other teams in the process was just a side benefit. Should the Coyotes actually move, I wouldn't be surprised to see another full overhaul or teams moved around since "the present situation" would thus change

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I think the ideal thing to do would be to move Coyotes to Seattle and the Panthers to Quebec. Tampa Bay seems to have pretty good support and I think that city has proven that it deserves its team so I would be against them moving. I also thought that the Islanders could be a team to move to Quebec but that team has too much history. Not to mention that they plan to move to Barclays arena.
Ideally, perhaps. But realistically, regardless of how the Panthers have dismal attendance and the hockey club loses money, overall the ownership group is pretty comfortable with the setup they have and I don't think they're in any real immediate danger of moving.

If any team is really in danger of moving soon, its the Coyotes. And while I personally hope they move to Québec, its possible they could move elsewhere as you pointed out.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 30, 2013, 7:16 AM
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Ideally, perhaps. But realistically, regardless of how the Panthers have dismal attendance and the hockey club loses money, overall the ownership group is pretty comfortable with the setup they have and I don't think they're in any real immediate danger of moving.

If any team is really in danger of moving soon, its the Coyotes. And while I personally hope they move to Québec, its possible they could move elsewhere as you pointed out.
Yea you're absolutely right about the Panthers. Their ownership seems strong and haven't showed any signs of wanting to sell the team. As I said, it would be the ideal thing to do, but like you said, it's unrealistic.
     
     
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Ya, Smyth was devastated to leave the Oilers. Can't blame the guy. The Oilers are a storied franchise that he loved playing for.
Iggy on the other hand seems relieved to be gone from the Flames. Delighted to play for a real team.
Oh please... What are you smoking?

The situation is no different for either player. Both players wouldn't be happy about leaving their team. Just because Iggy didn't cry like a baby doesn't mean he didn't want to leave. He's a pro hockey player who understands that he is a hired professional.
And if Smyth really was as broken up you say to be leaving a franchise that was at the bottom of the league, and had been for a decade, then he's just plain stupid.

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Iggy knew in advance and got to pick where he went. Big difference.
Hit the nail on the head. Smyth was emotional, but mostly for being caught off guard more than anything... also I'd cry too if I was getting traded to the Islanders. Iggy knew this was coming for a long time.
     
     
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Oh please... What are you smoking?

The situation is no different for either player. Both players wouldn't be happy about leaving their team. Just because Iggy didn't cry like a baby doesn't mean he didn't want to leave. He's a pro hockey player who understands that he is a hired professional.
And if Smyth really was as broken up you say to be leaving a franchise that was at the bottom of the league, and had been for a decade, then he's just plain stupid.
Smyth was playing for his childhood hometeam.

Iginla played for his childhood hometeam's enemy. He's thankful he got to build a really strong CV there and I think that is what he appreciates that the most.
     
     
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The Penguins played today's game without the 1st and 3rd highest scorers in the league and they're top two d-men, and still won their 15th straight game.
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Smyth was playing for his childhood hometeam.

Iginla played for his childhood hometeam's enemy. He's thankful he got to build a really strong CV there and I think that is what he appreciates that the most.
And you know this because you're best buds with Iggy and Ryan? Nobody knows what's really going through the minds of Iggy or Smyth.
     
     
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And you know this because you're best buds with Iggy and Ryan? Nobody knows what's really going through the minds of Iggy or Smyth.
Well, in Iggy's case, I might be understating his attachment to the team.
     
     
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Well, in Iggy's case, I might be understating his attachment to the team.
From what I've seen all players seem to get attached to their team after several years with one team, whether they're a tram they grew up liking or not.

The reason I believe he's handling it better is because he knew it was coming for a while, whereas Smyth didn't. Iggy also got to give his say in which team to go to. Basically, Iggy already did his grieving.
     
     
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Lupul's been a man on a mission since his injury. 13 points in 7 games, and some pretty selfless plays to give Kadri his second hattrick on the year.

I try not to get too excited about Toronto winning streaks anymore, but they're making it pretty difficult this year.
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From what I've seen all players seem to get attached to their team after several years with one team, whether they're a tram they grew up liking or not.

The reason I believe he's handling it better is because he knew it was coming for a while, whereas Smyth didn't. Iggy also got to give his say in which team to go to. Basically, Iggy already did his grieving.
Fair point.
     
     
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