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Old Posted Feb 28, 2013, 5:52 AM
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DAMNIT I didn't get before photos to preserve the history of the station #$#$@#$$#@$$$@#%#$@#$
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History schmistory.. just another piece of 80s dreck.
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Here's the DP application for the Main St station, don't think there is anything we didn't already know. Figured some people would enjoy grazing over it.

http://vancouver.ca/files/cov/committees/DE416346-1399-main-street.pdf
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Draft supplementary plan

Just browsing through the draft 2013 supplementary plan (link) and noticed something interesting.

There is a fair amount budgeted for SkyTrain station upgrades. We knew this was coming, considering both the Main Street and Metrotown station upgrades are in the pipeline.

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Station & Station area Upgrades & Programs
2013 - 16,976
2014 - 49,158
2015 - 29,664
2016 - 7,994
2017 - 5,597
That's $109 million allocated over a five year period.
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Just browsing through the draft 2013 supplementary plan (link) and noticed something interesting.

There is a fair amount budgeted for SkyTrain station upgrades. We knew this was coming, considering both the Main Street and Metrotown station upgrades are in the pipeline.



That's $109 million allocated over a five year period.
also there is the Broadway/Commercial reno's for better integration. can we get all 3 of those for 109 million?
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That was part of the Evergreen Line budget.
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Just browsing through the draft 2013 supplementary plan (link) and noticed something interesting.

There is a fair amount budgeted for SkyTrain station upgrades. We knew this was coming, considering both the Main Street and Metrotown station upgrades are in the pipeline.



That's $109 million allocated over a five year period.
According to Transport Canada press release, the total funding for Expo stations upgrade is $164 million.

Government of Canada(Building Canada Fund) - $41 million
BC provincial government - $83 million
Translink -$40 million

7 Expo stations to be upgraded by 2016:

- Main Street-Science World
- Metrotown
- Commercial-Broadway
- Scott Road
- Surrey Central
- New Westminster
- Joyce-Collingwood

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These upgrades are in addition to those made for Compass. For example, Joyce-Collingwood has completed upgrades for Compass, but Translink will start planning for upgrades this year. Hopefully it doesn't involve a whole re-work of what was already done, because the station houses were easily doubled in size with completely new paving, glazing, etc.
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These upgrades are in addition to those made for Compass. For example, Joyce-Collingwood has completed upgrades for Compass, but Translink will start planning for upgrades this year. Hopefully it doesn't involve a whole re-work of what was already done, because the station houses were easily doubled in size with completely new paving, glazing, etc.
It just might... I mean, they never installed an elevator on the east concourse...
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The Joyce-Collingwood east station house can probaby be expanded a few metres further to the east. It looks like the Compass project expansion has already created space for this.
I think the stair should be replaced with up and down escalator. This would speed up the human traffic. Currently a queue can form during rush hour and when an elder person/child uses the stair.
With the stair replaced, enough space might be freed up for the installation of an elevator at the west end of the east station house, using some of the street space.
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DAMNIT I didn't get before photos to preserve the history of the station #$#$@#$$#@$$$@#%#$@#$
Although you refer to Main Street/Science World (which thank goodness is getting a refresh), I have the same feelings for New Westminster Station. It looked like a model station before the Plaza 88 development came along, with up escalators at both platforms, among other things. Now, it feels more like a messed up hod-podge of dark and mysterious corridors, especially on the northwest side.

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The Joyce-Collingwood east station house can probaby be expanded a few metres further to the east. It looks like the Compass project expansion has already created space for this.
I think the stair should be replaced with up and down escalator. This would speed up the human traffic. Currently a queue can form during rush hour and when an elder person/child uses the stair.
With the stair replaced, enough space might be freed up for the installation of an elevator at the west end of the east station house, using some of the street space.
Actually, by the look of it, there "seems" to be enough space for them to mirror the west concourse layout on the east side, even with the new station house. They just have to extend the platform and take out some glass and floor panels...

As for an elevator in front of the stairs at the platform level (aka Scott Road Station's rebuilt west entrance)... that to me is like asking for circulation problems in the future by placing an obstruction in the middle of everyone's path... In addition, they do not have the space below the platform to fit it in before the stairs, as the stairs start at the edge of Joyce Street (according to Google Street View).
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Although you refer to Main Street/Science World (which thank goodness is getting a refresh), I have the same feelings for New Westminster Station. It looked like a model station before the Plaza 88 development came along, with up escalators at both platforms, among other things. Now, it feels more like a messed up hod-podge of dark and mysterious corridors, especially on the northwest side.
I agree that the area could've been better designed. I've been through there twice with my kids on a stroller. I found it odd that Starbucks would choose to set up shop on that side of the track but perhaps they're taking advantage of AM traffic?
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I agree that the area could've been better designed. I've been through there twice with my kids on a stroller. I found it odd that Starbucks would choose to set up shop on that side of the track but perhaps they're taking advantage of AM traffic?
I would imagine they sell much more coffee in the morning than during the evening rush hour.
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DAMNIT I didn't get before photos to preserve the history of the station #$#$@#$$#@$$$@#%#$@#$
Thankfully there was me.
The moment I realized just how different and how old the network was compared to anything else I had ever seen I started collecting images and taking photos.
As for photos of Main Street, I have a few of them I took last summer.






(Which is a contrast from this.)


(Which is a contrast from this.)



I also grab anything I find that was related to the SkyTrain project or the Mark I or older UTDC Linear Induction trains and stuff it in this photobucket folder which I try to update regularly but now that I'm out of the city won't see much updated activity. I recommend everyone take a look at least.
I still want to find more photos of when Main Street was the demonstration station. I can't find anything showing how the ticket hall originally looked or what the train (most likely a mock-up?) opposite the test track looked like.

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It looked like a model station before the Plaza 88 development came along, with up escalators at both platforms, among other things. Now, it feels more like a messed up hod-podge of dark and mysterious corridors, especially on the northwest side.
I've visited New West station three or four times and saw the redevelopment from when they were clearing the surrounding block to when it was completed. The ticket concourse felt narrow from the start but now that both sides fan out it makes it feel like it's this thing stuffed under the tracks with a white and green color theme that doesn't match up to the surrounding development at all. It just feels so weird looking at the once open (to the air) station and now seeing it completely covered over by surrounding buildings.

they could of at least extended the station roof to the end like they did with Broadway during the renovations there as to remove those ugly "kludge lights"

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Great photobucket. Thanks for sharing.
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Holy smokes, this station is atrocious, the rebuild can't come soon enough!
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Old Posted Mar 29, 2013, 7:47 PM
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I can say the same for Patterson, Joyce, Edmonds, Metrotown, etc.
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I can say the same for Patterson, Joyce, Edmonds, Metrotown, etc.
Basically every station on the Expo line...
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Basically every station on the Expo line...
Waterfront
Burrard
Granville
Stadium
Broadway
Naniamo
Edmonds (?)
22nd St.
New West

all decent stations with good enterances
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