ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[echinatl]

Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

Forgive the small scale (I actually hate this place, but at least it's another business opening)

What!? I love me some Waffle House!

[sirrob]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Highland Park Townhomes (at Highland and the Beltline)

Taken Saturday by me









Great to see people out and about in the neighborhood and Beltline as well.

Very, very nice!

[ATL_J]

Another student housing project in midtown?

http://atlantadev.com/100-midtown-considering-expansion/

That'd be 3 student complexes a few blocks from each other.

[ATLaffinity]

Originally Posted by ATL_J

Another student housing project in midtown?

http://atlantadev.com/100-midtown-considering-expansion/

That'd be 3 student complexes a few blocks from each other.

These all can't happen. I don't think more than one will happen. I would love to see the Centergy expansion only be offices.

[Newnan_Eric]

I've been lurking for a while - haven't had much to say lately. But, with things picking up I've been thinking...

With the new stadium and talk of improving East-West connections, why not propose another streetcar line. Have it go all the way from the AUC complex, around the new stadium, through downtown, across the connector where the new cap is supposed to go after they demolish the old capital parking deck, and along the park that supposed to be built between Memorial Dr. and MLK. and terminate at Oakland Cemetery. (You can add a loop later to pick up Turner Field and Grant Park.)

See my sketch:

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by Newnan_Eric

I've been lurking for a while - haven't had much to say lately. But, with things picking up I've been thinking...

With the new stadium and talk of improving East-West connections, why not propose another streetcar line. Have it go all the way from the AUC complex, around the new stadium, through downtown, across the connector where the new cap is supposed to go after they demolish the old capital parking deck, and along the park that supposed to be built between Memorial Dr. and MLK. and terminate at Oakland Cemetery. (You can add a loop later to pick up Turner Field and Grant Park.)

See my sketch:

Well, as much as it'd be nice to connect to Turner field, your phase 1 is pretty much useless compared to many other lines that could be built. It pretty much directly parallels the east-west Marta line just a block or 2 north. There's many other lines that could use a streetcar well in advance of a line like this. The main reason the streetcar under construction makes sense is that it will eventually tie into the Beltline, connecting it with Marta, it connects major tourist attractions, and allows for the light rail maintenance facility to be put in a location on otherwise unusable land under the connector. Maybe if a line like this connected Turner Field and the new Dome somehow then provided service up Northside it could make sense.

[Jarod Apperson]

Should this Ferst renovation/expansion project be added to the Atlanta Dev site? It is listed as a 2013 capital project by GT.

http://bldgs.org/ferst/index.php

http://www.space.gatech.edu/planning/index.html?id=341&year=2013

Also, what's the source for the 100 Midtown expansion? I haven't seen that anywhere other than the Atlanta Dev site, which doesn't name a source.

[clexmond]

Originally Posted by Jarod Apperson

Should this Ferst renovation/expansion project be added to the Atlanta Dev site? It is listed as a 2013 capital project by GT.

http://bldgs.org/ferst/index.php

http://www.space.gatech.edu/planning/index.html?id=341&year=2013

Also, what's the source for the 100 Midtown expansion? I haven't seen that anywhere other than the Atlanta Dev site, which doesn't name a source.

We have a source but they don't wish to be named.

[Jarod Apperson]

Originally Posted by clexmond

We have a source but they don't wish to be named.

Thanks!

[Newnan_Eric]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Well, as much as it'd be nice to connect to Turner field, your phase 1 is pretty much useless compared to many other lines that could be built. It pretty much directly parallels the east-west Marta line just a block or 2 north. There's many other lines that could use a streetcar well in advance of a line like this. The main reason the streetcar under construction makes sense is that it will eventually tie into the Beltline, connecting it with Marta, it connects major tourist attractions, and allows for the light rail maintenance facility to be put in a location on otherwise unusable land under the connector. Maybe if a line like this connected Turner Field and the new Dome somehow then provided service up Northside it could make sense.

I realized that it was somewhat redundant with MARTA's East-West line. However, the proposed Peachtree Streetcar had redundancies with MARTA as well. I was thinking that this would be a catalyst for development. As I believe the currently under construction streetcar line will be. My proposed line would connect some significant points (like AUC, Stadium, MMPT, Capital, Oakland Cemetary) and leverage those with some really under-utilized property.

The AUC needs better surface connectivity to downtown. The MLK/Memorial parkway area is ready for re-development. There is a need to pull these places together. And there have been rumblings about cleaning up the MLK corridor (from the Mayor in a couple of recent articles).

I know this would probably never happen, but it is interesting to think about.

What is promising is MARTA's recent moves to develop TOD's at select stations. I also think that the streetcar is going to give a boost to development in the Edgewood and Auburn Ave corridors. I've even seen a few articles mention Tax Allocation District type funding mechanisms to help pay for additional transit plans.

I think the Atlanta Business Chronicle was leaning a bit towards boosterism last week saying that we are about to hit a wave of in-town development as big as the Olympics, but I do think things are definitely looking up.

[briantech]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Highland Park Townhomes (at Highland and the Beltline)

Taken Saturday by me





Great to see people out and about in the neighborhood and Beltline as well.

Weird that these appear to be brand new ... but I don't see anything listed on Zillow in that location for sale.

Are all these townhomes already purchased? Or are they apartments?

[ATL_J]

@briantech

Here's the website: http://www.jwhomes.com/FindYourHome/NeighborhoodDetail.aspx?Neighborhoodid=87

It looks like they only have 4 left, all around $600,000.

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by Newnan_Eric

I realized that it was somewhat redundant with MARTA's East-West line. However, the proposed Peachtree Streetcar had redundancies with MARTA as well. I was thinking that this would be a catalyst for development. As I believe the currently under construction streetcar line will be. My proposed line would connect some significant points (like AUC, Stadium, MMPT, Capital, Oakland Cemetary) and leverage those with some really under-utilized property.

The AUC needs better surface connectivity to downtown. The MLK/Memorial parkway area is ready for re-development. There is a need to pull these places together. And there have been rumblings about cleaning up the MLK corridor (from the Mayor in a couple of recent articles).

I know this would probably never happen, but it is interesting to think about.

What is promising is MARTA's recent moves to develop TOD's at select stations. I also think that the streetcar is going to give a boost to development in the Edgewood and Auburn Ave corridors. I've even seen a few articles mention Tax Allocation District type funding mechanisms to help pay for additional transit plans.

I think the Atlanta Business Chronicle was leaning a bit towards boosterism last week saying that we are about to hit a wave of in-town development as big as the Olympics, but I do think things are definitely looking up.

also, the concept 3 map by the ARC also proposes a streetcar alignment similar to yours. i'm sure streetcars down MLK (especially between northside and ashby) is an eventual goal.

[ChadK]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

also, the concept 3 map by the ARC also proposes a streetcar alignment similar to yours. i'm sure streetcars down MLK (especially between northside and ashby) is an eventual goal.

Speaking of the Streetcar... Here's a first look of the final vehicle from their facebook page. We've seen the cars before but now we can see a portion with the graphics in place.

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by Newnan_Eric

I realized that it was somewhat redundant with MARTA's East-West line. However, the proposed Peachtree Streetcar had redundancies with MARTA as well. I was thinking that this would be a catalyst for development. As I believe the currently under construction streetcar line will be. My proposed line would connect some significant points (like AUC, Stadium, MMPT, Capital, Oakland Cemetary) and leverage those with some really under-utilized property.

The AUC needs better surface connectivity to downtown. The MLK/Memorial parkway area is ready for re-development. There is a need to pull these places together. And there have been rumblings about cleaning up the MLK corridor (from the Mayor in a couple of recent articles).

I know this would probably never happen, but it is interesting to think about.

What is promising is MARTA's recent moves to develop TOD's at select stations. I also think that the streetcar is going to give a boost to development in the Edgewood and Auburn Ave corridors. I've even seen a few articles mention Tax Allocation District type funding mechanisms to help pay for additional transit plans.

I think the Atlanta Business Chronicle was leaning a bit towards boosterism last week saying that we are about to hit a wave of in-town development as big as the Olympics, but I do think things are definitely looking up.

From a development perspective, yes I think it would be great. Also tying the AUC into downtown should be done. I think the only way this should happen is if it ties into the new streetcar in some way. I love the idea of a light rail network playing off of the strong spine of MARTA, but I think it should minimize transfers where possible and shouldn't just be little chunks attached at certain stations. A line up Northside transforming that corridor would be great, or a line up Marietta street, either connecting into the Howell Mill / West Midtown area, and maybe to the AUC and new Dome.

[NY_Z]

Originally Posted by Newnan_Eric

I've been lurking for a while - haven't had much to say lately. But, with things picking up I've been thinking...

With the new stadium and talk of improving East-West connections, why not propose another streetcar line. Have it go all the way from the AUC complex, around the new stadium, through downtown, across the connector where the new cap is supposed to go after they demolish the old capital parking deck, and along the park that supposed to be built between Memorial Dr. and MLK. and terminate at Oakland Cemetery. (You can add a loop later to pick up Turner Field and Grant Park.)

See my sketch:

Hi, I'm Zach - I've been a lurker for YEARS but have finally come around. I had the same thought as Newnan_Eric when I saw the Beltline overlay on this map:

http://map.atlantadev.com

, which is awesome

Say the downtown streetcar currently under construction links up with the beltline on the east, then heads up Marietta street. The new route Eric proposes could also connect to the beltline, travel down MLK, then go up Northside. Castleberry Hill would have to benefit from a more seamless connection to Downtown. Further up, say the two lines come back together at 17th street terminating (or continuing back East!) to the proposed new Amtrak station. Optimistically, having multiple lines convalescing on the beltline tracks should make for pretty frequent service on that section.

It is redundant, but robust transit systems rely on redundancy. Imagine the inevitable accidents/malfunctions that are to occur - at least people who may come to rely the street car have an alternative a few blocks away if one line is stuck with delays. Plus, it could provide an impetus for development of the southern section of Downtown which has a solid urban fabric along with a few historic gems, especially lining Mitchell St. The line would have a lot of people passing through the already-busy 5 Points section, and hopefully that would draw some better retail tenants.

Anyway, long first post. Hope it makes for some discussion. Glad to be here.

[jnihiser]

Quick pic from last week showcasing the Ramada GSU redo.

[briantech]

Here's an update on the CFHF, taken last week.

[echinatl]

Very cool pics of the GSU apt and CFHF! They've been busy on the Civil Rights museum as well.

I noticed 2 floors at CNN between CNN and Phillips were expanded. Looks pretty nice.

[micropundit]

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution


German automaker Volkswagen is in talks to open an operations center with about 100 employees at the site of the former Ford plant in Hapeville, according to people with knowledge of the negotiations.A deal would boost redevelopment of the so-called “Aerotropolis” site just east of the Atlanta airport’s runways, where Volkswagen’s sports car unit, Porsche, already plans a new North American headquarters.The people familiar with the negotiations described the potential Volkswagen facility as a new corporate office, not a consolidation.

Volkswagen’s parent company, Volkswagen AG, acquired the Porsche car making business last year. Volkswagen AG controls several other brands, including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini and Bugatti.

One person with knowledge of the situation said negotiations are “far along,” and are pending approval of German government officials. The government of the German state of Lower Saxony is a partial owner of Volkswagen AG.A move by Volkswagen would not only put it next door with one of its marquee brands, but the site is also about 130 miles from Volkswagen’s massive plant in Chattanooga, where it makes Passat sedans.

Executives and managers also would have ready access to flights to much of the world, including manufacturing sites in the U.S., Mexico and South America.



http://www.ajc.com/news/news/local/volkswagen-weighing-site-near-airport/nW9Hm/