Winnipeg Construction

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by DonaldSmith

Canada Bread plant redevelopment clears hurdle

City council has green lit plans to redevelop the former Canada Bread Company plant in the West End into an 80-unit housing and retail complex.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/our-com...development-clears-hurdle-199155671.html

great news!

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by trueviking

yeah, you can blame the idiot bureaucrat/politician who decided it was a good idea to build a fire hall in the middle of a cloverleaf.....they will have to shut down traffic on Portage Avenue every single time they have to get out.

I would love to see the study that found that site as the most appropriate for a development like that....nevermind adding a museum that nobody will ever be able to get to...so stupid.

on a positive note, the building LOOKS neat so far!

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by rypinion

How would you envision that happening? Anything that requires the eastbound buses to cross traffic would really slow down those routes.

A cool pipe dream would be to have a Polo Park transit hub go under the road.

I thought it seemed fairly obvious that east bound buses could access the Polo Park loop via the Empress bridge, no light neeed. This is of course built around the assumption that the existing transit loop will need to move to make way for a future mall expansion. Moving the transit loop to the east so it is behind Earls seems to make the most sense. Then east bound buses could access it fairly easy and west bound buses could take the Empress yield to access the loop. Sadly, a light will still be needed but only on the westbound lanes to allow west bound buses to merge back into traffic but it would ideally be a demand driven light with a maximum threshold. That would likely have a lower overall impact on traffic.

[rypinion]

Originally Posted by CoryB

I thought it seemed fairly obvious that east bound buses could access the Polo Park loop via the Empress bridge, no light neeed. This is of course built around the assumption that the existing transit loop will need to move to make way for a future mall expansion. Moving the transit loop to the east so it is behind Earls seems to make the most sense. Then east bound buses could access it fairly easy and west bound buses could take the Empress yield to access the loop. Sadly, a light will still be needed but only on the westbound lanes to allow west bound buses to merge back into traffic but it would ideally be a demand driven light with a maximum threshold. That would likely have a lower overall impact on traffic.

I guess it's not the way the bus crosses Portage that is my issue, it's the detour in itself. Surely it would add 5 minutes to every trip from St. James to Downtown if a bus had to take the Empress loop to get to the north side of Portage and then back. All for very little benefit.

Unless I'm missing something.

[chrisallard5454]

Speaking of West End redevelopments, what is going on at the building across from Tech Voc on Notre Dame? I bus past it daily, and haven't thought to ask what it is.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

Speaking of West End redevelopments, what is going on at the building across from Tech Voc on Notre Dame? I bus past it daily, and haven't thought to ask what it is.

Specialized Services for Children and Youth (SSCY) centre

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/work-to-start-on-rehab-centre-129637178.html



My mom said she got to go on a tour of the Cookie factory when she was a student at Tec Voc. I was very jealous

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by CoryB

When the light was put it the median was cut out. Based on the allignment of the intersection it would seem to be intended to allow south bound traffic on Langside to turn left onto east bound Portage. For some reason that has not been put into use yet.

The cutout was put in this past summer to allow buses to turn left on to Portage from the new U of W terminal, which has since been cancelled.

[cllew]

If I recall reading properly the cloverleaf was not the first choice, the fire station was suppose to go about a block away to the west where the old Texaco station was.

The city apparently took too long to decide on what type of station it wanted to build and some of the land next to that lot that was also required was sold to somebody else, and the city did not want to pay more to buy that land back.

[Only The Lonely..]

Originally Posted by wags_in_the_peg

the 2 lights that drive me crazy that are purely for pedestrians and should be replaced with above ground walkways are (1) just east of UofW science building (2) polo park in front of a&w

The other one that gets me is the traffic light on North Bound Main @ the Disraeli.

Again, there's no cross traffic to wait for.

Couldn't they have thrown up a pedestrian corridor instead to help the drunks cross from the Manitoba Museum to the soup kitchens?

[Only The Lonely..]

Originally Posted by trueviking

yeah, you can blame the idiot bureaucrat/politician who decided it was a good idea to build a fire hall in the middle of a cloverleaf.....they will have to shut down traffic on Portage Avenue every single time they have to get out.

I would love to see the study that found that site as the most appropriate for a development like that....nevermind adding a museum that nobody will ever be able to get to...so stupid.

I have to agree.

I don't know jack about urban planning, but placing the firehall on that cloverleaf seems like a really bad idea.

Sort of like building a stadium way out in the burbs, and then not connecting it to the half built rapid transit line to no where.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

The other one that gets me is the traffic light on North Bound Main @ the Disraeli.

Again, there's no cross traffic to wait for.

Couldn't they have thrown up a pedestrian corridor instead to help the drunks cross from the Manitoba Museum to the soup kitchens?

Unless things have changed with the redevelopment of the bridge it only use to go red when the push to cross button was activated.

I guess you could have people walk by going east or south and push the button with no intention of going north on Main St.

[Only The Lonely..]

Originally Posted by cllew

Unless things have changed with the redevelopment of the bridge it only use to go red when the push to cross button was activated.

I guess you could have people walk by going east or south and push the button with no intention of going north on Main St.

Maybe that's how it was designed, but i routinely come to a stop at that light for no reason.

[Only The Lonely..]

Observation #2..

Man, does Chinatown ever look sad these days. I finally opened my eyes and saw Shanghai gone.


I wonder how many decades that will sit as an empty lot?

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by cllew

Unless things have changed with the redevelopment of the bridge it only use to go red when the push to cross button was activated.

No longer. It now just cycles on a timer like a normal light and traffic has to stop for no reason.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

Observation #2..

Man, does Chinatown ever look sad these days. I finally opened my eyes and saw Shanghai gone.


I wonder how many decades that will sit as an empty lot?

For a "Chinatown", ours looks pretty bleak.

[chrisallard5454]

Originally Posted by Riverman

No longer. It now just cycles on a timer like a normal light and traffic has to stop for no reason.

It is kind of ironic that there is this preconception passed around by everyone that the city loves to throw traffic lights up where ever they can, and now they are popping up at non-intersections. Another ridiculous one is the red light for the Osborne Bridge. I myself am a cyclist and find that it is really inefficient that 1) the cyclist has to wait 30-60 seconds for the light to turn green to cross, and 2) traffic on Osborne is completely halted for what is usually only one cyclist/pedestrian at a time. This too is for 30 or so seconds.

[Wigglez]

Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

Observation #2..

Man, does Chinatown ever look sad these days. I finally opened my eyes and saw Shanghai gone.


I wonder how many decades that will sit as an empty lot?

I bus through "chinatown" 5 days a week and it... is... depressing..... It feels like its a mix of things that should be somewhere in the suburbs and abandoned rotting buildings. It may be my most disliked part of downtown (if they really do fill in a few of those surface lots on graham then chinatown will without a doubt be the bottom of my list)

The area has a TON of potential with a number of beautiful old buildings. Would be nice if some effort was put into it.

[cllew]

Originally Posted by Riverman

No longer. It now just cycles on a timer like a normal light and traffic has to stop for no reason.

As it is a right turn and I don't think there is a sign prohibiting it, could one do a right turn on red after coming to a full stop?

[Boreal]

The news about the Canada Bread plant conversion is positive. While it receives very little attention, there are some good things going on in the West End.

[h0twired]

Originally Posted by Only The Lonely..

The other one that gets me is the traffic light on North Bound Main @ the Disraeli.

Again, there's no cross traffic to wait for.

Another dumb set of lights is at Princess @ Rupert.

Is there really THAT much traffic that you couldn't just have a stop sign for those on Rupert?