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Old Posted Mar 16, 2013, 12:18 AM
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And you think that, after One57 and Nordstrom tower, Barnett can will build even more high towers in that area?
He owns a number of plots in prime parts of Midtown, so yes, it's certainly probable.

If anything, Barnett seems to just be getting started.
     
     
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Yeah, as long as demand stays as strong as it is (and it shows no signs of slowing in Manhattan), there'll be new buildings. Barnett expects the success of his One57 to flow into the Nordstrom tower. Once this one is well under way, and the units are selling, there will inevitably be the "what next?". I'm sure there are already plans in motion for the next big thing (not counting all of Extell's other current developments).


For those interested, some results from the soil tests...
http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/BScanJ...r=02&allbin=1080870&scancode=ES594976174



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So, this is the man (Gary Barnett) that's giving Donald Trump some serious real estate competition!
Donald Who?
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2013, 11:03 AM
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Some nice models made by Funkyskunk2:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/52836039@N02/8339428553/sizes/h/in/photostream/














This will dominate the skyline.
     
     
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Gary Barnett puts vacant W. 57th site on block

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Old Posted Mar 19, 2013, 6:37 PM
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These are cool, but where's my Tower Verre?
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Some encouraging news...

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20130319/REAL_ESTATE/130319854

Extell moves closer to building city's tallest spire

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With Tuesday's approval by the Landmarks Preservation Commission of plans to raze part of the old BF Goodrich Building on Broadway, the developer can advance its plan for a 1,550-foot spire on West 57 Street.
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Extell Development Company has moved a small step closer to putting up the city's tallest spire. On Tuesday, the Landmarks Preservation Commission unanimously approved plans to demolish a section of the BF Goodrich building at 1780 Broadway. That decision will pave the way for Extell to do excavation and foundation work on its second tower on West 57th Street. The first one at One57 is currently well under way.

The new building, set to rise at 225 W. 57th St., will reach at least 1,550 feet, according to building permits, though Gary Barnett, Extell's principal, has said it could go even higher if he can assemble more air rights.

Either way, it would become the tallest building in the city, eclipsing the 1,368-foot One World Trade Center (minus its 400-foot spire) and rival developer Henry Macklowe's 1,397-foot spire at 432 Park Ave. The new tower will also stand taller than Mr. Barnett's own One57 one block over, which at 1,005 feet will be, for a time, the tallest apartment building in the city when it is completed next year.

The planned 88-story tower at 225 W. 57th St. will boast 220 apartments, a hotel on its seventh through 12th floors, and a Nordstrom department store in the base, which will have an entrance inside 1780 Broadway. Tony Mannarino, Extell's executive vice-president, said after the commission vote that he expected to receive city approvals by April or May, at which point demolition and excavation work can commence. That would take about 15 to 18 months, at which point the tower could begin to rise.

"If everything goes according to plan, we're looking to be finished in the middle of '18," Mr. Mannarino said.

This is not the first time Mr. Barnett has come before the Landmarks Preservation Commission to debate the BF Goodrich Building. In 2009, the commission had also wanted to landmark a second structure owned by the tire maker, at 225 W. 57th St., but Mr. Barnett was able to successfully lobby against that building's preservation, which would have conflicted with his plans. In exchange, he vowed to seamlessly integrate 1780 Broadway into his bigger project.
     
     
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Extell moves closer to building city's tallest spire
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Extell Development Company has moved a small step closer to putting up the city's tallest spire. On Tuesday, the Landmarks Preservation Commission unanimously approved plans to demolish a section of the BF Goodrich building at 1780 Broadway. That decision will pave the way for Extell to do excavation and foundation work on its second tower on West 57th Street. The first one at One57 is currently well under way.

The new building, set to rise at 225 W. 57th St., will reach at least 1,550 feet, according to building permits, though Gary Barnett, Extell's principal, has said it could go even higher if he can assemble more air rights.

Either way, it would become the tallest building in the city, eclipsing the 1,368-foot One World Trade Center (minus its 400-foot spire) and rival developer Henry Macklowe's 1,397-foot spire at 432 Park Ave. The new tower will also stand taller than Mr. Barnett's own One57 one block over, which at 1,005 feet will be, for a time, the tallest apartment building in the city when it is completed next year.

The planned 88-story tower at 225 W. 57th St. will boast 220 apartments, a hotel on its seventh through 12th floors, and a Nordstrom department store in the base, which will have an entrance inside 1780 Broadway. Tony Mannarino, Extell's executive vice-president, said after the commission vote that he expected to receive city approvals by April or May, at which point demolition and excavation work can commence. That would take about 15 to 18 months, at which point the tower could begin to rise.

"If everything goes according to plan, we're looking to be finished in the middle of '18," Mr. Mannarino said.
It would be fantastic if this turns out even taller than the already stellar 1,550ft.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2013, 7:04 PM
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^ One post above you.

I'm positive this will break the 500m mark...
     
     
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These are cool, but where's my Tower Verre?
Yes, those are cool. Is that the 2,000 foot version?
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2013, 7:57 PM
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The new building, set to rise at 225 W. 57th St., will reach at least 1,550 feet, according to building permits, though Gary Barnett, Extell's principal, has said it could go even higher if he can assemble more air rights.

Tony Mannarino, Extell's executive vice-president, said after the commission vote that he expected to receive city approvals by April or May, at which point demolition and excavation work can commence. That would take about 15 to 18 months, at which point the tower could begin to rise.

"If everything goes according to plan, we're looking to be finished in the middle of '18," Mr. Mannarino said.
Yeah, we'll go from demo/excavation into construction mode when this begins. So excited for it. I'm ready for renderings, but I'll settle for definitive height figures when we can get them. The 15 to 18 month estimate is likely for getting the foundation ready.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2013, 8:36 PM
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It would be fantastic if this turns out even taller than the already stellar 1,550ft.
Indeed it would be, and I'm confident we are in for a real treat here (design - and heightwise).

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Yes, those are cool. Is that the 2,000 foot version?
Nope, it's a model for a ~500m tall tower.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2013, 8:48 PM
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I *do* trust that these drawings are in fact massing models and come nowhere near to indicating the final design.

I even now feel compelled to ask this rhetorically, since when I first saw these today, I was given a bit of a start. I mean, I would like to see something with bold contours and *an actual spire-like element*; not simply a box-derivative with...oh-I-dunno...a perfunctory, token crown for an afterthought.
     
     
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I actually really like the un-official renderings, at least from this angle! I'm hoping the final design is something very similar to this, compliments One57 nicely!


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But 2018 though? Oh man, a 5 year construction cycle really shows the height and complexity of this tower. Without even seeing the design we know its going to be a monster.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2013, 10:22 PM
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But 2018 though? Oh man, a 5 year construction cycle really shows the height and complexity of this tower. Without even seeing the design we know its going to be a monster.
That's to get the tower completed, though for us its more likely 2017. For most people, though the store opening in 2018 will probably be more noteworthy.
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That unofficial render looks more like 2,000 feet.

Nice, but I won't be impressed until I see the official render for myself.
     
     
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Wow cant wait for this baby to get off the ground and rise, it will be seen for miles!
     
     
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Those renders look great. It would be incredible to see this building rise over 2,000 feet, or at least become the tallest in the city. Any chances of that happening??
     
     
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It would be incredible to see this building rise over 2,000 feet, or at least become the tallest in the city. Any chances of that happening??
Keep your fingers crossed!
     
     
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Oh man, can't wait till 2015! The skyline is rapidly being altered and getting higher.
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