Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3 - Page 146

Lilljemalm · #**2901** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 2:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade Reynolds

No one said there aren't positive reasons why businesses relocate here. But in reality, it's cheap to open up business in Utah. That's just a fact. We don't have high wages here and because the cost of living is so cheap, they can get away with it better than, say, in California.

You can't use the per capita number for comparison here because of Utah's far above average proportion of population still too young to work (and wearing diapers). You have to use the per worker pay scale, which was slightly above average last year. You then have to adjust for the CSA cost of living index. After that is done, SLC ranks very nicely from a worker's prospective. Phoenix where I am does not fare very well. I crunch these kinds of numbers for a living.

Wasatch_One · #**2902** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 5:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade Reynolds

Utah also creates a lot of cheap jobs. We rank 41st in per capita income. It does balance out because it's cheap to live here - but a lot of businesses relocate here because it's cheap.

Per capita income has nothing to do with cheap jobs, it just means that money has to stretch further because of larger than avg. family size.

What you need to look at is per capita household income. Utah actually ranks 14th nationally: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income

Comrade · #**2903** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 7:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wasatch_One

Per capita income has nothing to do with cheap jobs, it just means that money has to stretch further because of larger than avg. family size.

What you need to look at is per capita household income. Utah actually ranks 14th nationally: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income

Median household income is just as flawed, especially when you look at wages, because you don't know the distribution of the incomes for each of your samples and it's rather easy to skew the results.

The average Utahn, not family, makes an average wage of $40,950 a year (2011). That's a pretty low number when you consider we supposedly have one of the hottest economies in the country. Of course, as I said, it's also tied to cost of living. It's much cheaper to live in Utah than it is to live Massachusetts. But still, that plays a role in cheap jobs. It's much cheaper to come to Utah and establish a business and pay less than if you're doing the same back east. You can take that comment however you want - but it's fact.

1. Utah's minimum wage is tied to the national average. There are 19 states that have a higher minimum wage than Utah. The rest either have no minimum wage laws (therefore have to pay the national average), or a law that puts their minimum wage to the national average.

2. Cost of living is low in Utah. That's not a bad thing - but it is fact. It's much cheaper to buy a bigger house in Salt Lake than it is to buy the same house in even a state like Colorado.

3. Utah ranks below the national average annual and hourly average wage.

That all adds up. I'm not saying we're a poor state - but we're not exploding with riches. It's a big reason we lack Fortune 500 companies and a great deal of millionaires and billionaires. We're a very middle class state. That's just the reality, so while those pro-business laws might entice people to the state, they're not necessarily bringing higher waged jobs. So, there is price.

Viperlord · #**2904** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 2:25 PM**

Rimkus Consulting Group, a Houston-based provider of forensic engineering consulting services, has opened a Utah office at 222 S. Main St. in Salt Lake City.

Rimkus Consulting Group, Inc.
222. S. Main, 5th Floor
Salt Lake City, UT 84101

http://www.rimkus.com/salt_lake_city_opens

Future Mayor · #**2905** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 3:09 PM**

I'm considering starting my political career. I may throw my hat into the ring for City Council this fall.

Wasatch_One · #**2906** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I'm considering starting my political career. I may throw my hat into the ring for City Council this fall.

this is the closest thing I have to a fb "like"

DCRes · #**2907** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 3:59 PM**

This article was mentioned on the CCC thread but fits better here

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Salt Lake City’s Gateway launches $2 million renovation

The renovation project is focusing on ambiance and on the 12-year-old Gateway becoming more of a community gathering spot, said General Manager Scott Bennett.

By early summer, shoppers will see more shaded seating areas, surrounded by flowering plants. More than 220 seats will be added to nearly 150 existing spots designed to allow shoppers to rest and relax. In colder months, the areas will be warmed by fire pits.

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/55993469-79/gateway-art-gallery-lake.html.csp

stayinginformed · #**2908** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 4:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I'm considering starting my political career. I may throw my hat into the ring for City Council this fall.

In which District? I know Carlton Christensen in District 1 is leaving the council after this year. I think I also remember hearing Soren Simonsen may also be retiring also.

Future Mayor · #**2909** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 4:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by stayinginformed

In which District? I know Carlton Christensen in District 1 is leaving the council after this year. I think I also remember hearing Soren Simonsen may also be retiring also.

I live in District 5. Jill Remington Love is not running again.

SLC Projects · #**2910** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 5:15 PM**

I had no idea that Gateway now has a Art Gallery. I need to go check that out.

SLC Projects · #**2911** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 5:28 PM**

So just a few benches and flowers cost 2 million?

I was kind of hoping to see some of the ugly store front stucco replace with bricks or something with this makeover.

Makid · #**2912** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 5:39 PM**

They are going to repair some of the concrete also.

I do think it would be good if they worked to get a smaller grocer in the area. Then continue the focus on more local retailers.

I was happy to see that they are trying to focus on being an Entertainment District as well.

As they now have a focus, they should be able to implement changes that will be better for the area.

Orlando · #**2913** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 6:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by StevenF

I personally am a Republican and find that kinda hard because I do care about air pollution, convention hotel and LOVE mass transit. I don't drink, so alcohol isn't something I personally think about or focus on for laws. Though I would admit allowing a liquor license for individual companies to work for any restaurant they build in Utah is a good idea. There are some alcohol laws in Utah that are just laughable and those should change but I do agree on the lower % we have in the state.

I agree for the most part on 🞵🞵🞵 ownership that I have the right to carry one if I want. But I will tell you now I am not as crazy as the rest of my brothers when it comes to those things posted above. Most of them have served in the military to some extent and they are beyond nuts for there 🞵🞵🞵🞵. I even had my Brother and his son downtown a couple weeks back at the capital and they were interviewed on most of the news stations.

My brother Jonathan will flat out get in your face as he did with the Taylorsville Mayor multiple times on issues he doesn't like. I have an urban lifestyle and the rest of them are suburban/rural. I love my Mac and they love their PC. They like renewable resources to get themselves off the grid to prepare for the end of the world. I want renewable resources to reduce my pollution and not have to worry about if the grid has a power loss that I can still play my computer games. I see no reason why I need to dump my food, recyclable waste directly into the garbage can. I currently live in the basement of my Mothers home and my mom has 2 regular garbage cans. I have changed things to the point we don't even fill up 1 of the 2 cans each week now. I want to start composting but my mom goes nuts thinking its going to attract the rats(we live close to some horse stables). The dang apple tree and grape vines do that well enough.

Orlando, I do forgive you for trying to place me into the crazy far right wing Republican group.

All I have to say to you, is that you certainly are not mainstream or stereotypical Republican, which is what I was targeting. So, therefore, my argument still stands. One more item to add to the list of steroptypical republican values: anti-urbanism.

Comrade · #**2914** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 6:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I'm considering starting my political career. I may throw my hat into the ring for City Council this fall.

Good luck!

It's tough running for a city council race because you're mostly working on name recognition (most don't follow the races and maybe only know the incumbent). The fact you're running against a non-incumbent should be a help ... unless you somehow get an opponent who's well-known in your district.

A few years ago, my councilman, Søren Simonsen, ran for reelection and nearly lost his seat - only winning by 13 votes! I really don't know why it was so close, because he was the incumbent and had won his first election by a healthy eight-points. I guess it was the personal touch, as I had actually met his opponent (she came to my door) and I never once interacted with him. I still didn't vote for her (and it didn't help we had a tiff on my front porch over the church I was going to - she kept saying I was not in St. Ambrose district and I most certainly was ... I really don't know why she fought me on that!) but I guess that personal touch will be key. If you're going to run, or even think you might run, get out there now and start interacting.

jedikermit · #**2915** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 7:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

I'm considering starting my political career. I may throw my hat into the ring for City Council this fall.

I'll join the

club.

Yet another reason I should move into the city from the prairie.

Just A Thought · #**2916** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 9:16 PM**

portobell_gallery2 by images212, on Flickr

Portobello-Road-London by images212, on Flickr

portobello-rd2 by images212, on Flickr

London's Portobello Road.. Or SLC's Gateway..

GW/SLC has all the ingredients: Plenty of residents with a 10 minute walk, a culture of healthy eating, and many small businesses (as evident at the summer market) to make this work.

Take the farmers market to GW?

It could be there year round.

stayinginformed · #**2917** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 9:35 PM**

New 10 Townhouse development on the West side of 300 W and Reed Avenue (750 North). More density is coming to Marmalade.

SLC Projects · #**2918** Posted **Mar 18, 2013, 11:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Viperlord

Rimkus Consulting Group, a Houston-based provider of forensic engineering consulting services, has opened a Utah office at 222 S. Main St. in Salt Lake City.

Rimkus Consulting Group, Inc.
222. S. Main, 5th Floor
Salt Lake City, UT 84101

http://www.rimkus.com/salt_lake_city_opens

So with this move that only leaves what?.......two floors?....three floors still empty? 222 is almost at 100% Bring on the UPAC tower.

sock puppet · #**2919** Posted **Mar 19, 2013, 2:32 PM**

Here are the plans for the Marmalade Library block. They're posted on the corner of 300 W and 600 N near the art display.

swankmotron · #**2920** Posted **Mar 19, 2013, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by stayinginformed

Did anyone else notice the sneak peek of the Main Street facade of the performing arts center in this video (pause at 1:09), and that the planned business tower will use part of the air rights over the UPAC. It also seems that they are planning another mid block walkway south of the Tribune building from the plan at about 0:19.

• Video Link

I didn't even realize this video was public yet...