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ethereal_reality · #**13261** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 8:09 PM**

the Copa Capri, 1844 Bronson Avenue, Hollywood.

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below: The word Capri was lost and the the lowered, other than that the apartment building is in pretty decent shape.

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oh and I just noticed, the letter C is placed too low.

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So how would you classify this architectural style? I don't mind it at all, it's rather, shall we say tropical.
(of course I'd sing a different tune if I were to see what it replaced)
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alester young · #**13262** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 8:50 PM**

Thanks for the post e_r. The building is enhanced in the earliest photo by the period 1950s cars. That is noir. The modern street scene is much more dull with the bland modern cars, all in uber "safe" colors -white, silver, black, black, black, silver, white. Where has the flamboyance and confidence gone? Does this say something about society today and conformity? Give me two tone and chrome any day. I'll now stop flying my kite...

I am rather fond of this building -hope that it was a greenfield build tho' and didn't take out some earlier architectural gem.

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

the Copa Capri, 1844 Bronson Avenue, Hollywood.

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ethereal_reality · #**13263** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 9:08 PM**

A forlorn looking Pan Pacific Auditorium four years before it was destroyed by fire.

John Meyerhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/donkiyoti/4401316915/

Gordon Cassidyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonc/3038384131/

looking north toward the Hollywood Hills

Gordon Cassidyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonc/3038384131/

May 24, 1989

http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/1...PanPacific.htm
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tovangar2 · #**13264** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 9:28 PM**

Thank you so much GW for reminding me of the GrassCrete parking lot at the 7th & Fig Home Savings. It wasn't entirely successful as the most-used areas showed wear and the parking spaces had dead spots from oil drips, but I always really appreciated that someone at least tried to solve the problem of our acres and acres of blazing hot tarmac:

The Cultural Civil War

Thx e_r. One to be grateful for. This came within a whisker of being demolished. I don't even care how badly they queer the scale with new development, as long as it's saved:

http://expression58.org/2011/10/urge...ight-location/

RIP:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...ywood-1913.jpg

Some interesting background on Frederick Roehrig, "the millionaires' architect", and the Hotel Green (he also did Frederick Rindge's manse on S Harvard, extensively covered on this thread)
Architect Walter Neff was born and grew up in a Roehrig-designed home:
http://socalarchhistory.blogspot.com...architect.html

http://socalarchhistory.blogspot.com...architect.html

Pan Pacific Auditorium, another one I managed to break into. I still have a small piece of mirror liberated from the interior. A great building and an unforgivable loss.

ethereal_reality · #**13265** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 9:57 PM**

Los Angeles Street Department steamroller circa 1910.

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steamroller and water wagon.

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a Studebaker water wagon.

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ethereal_reality · #**13266** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:06 PM**

"Hey Dad, can we drive out to the volcano?"

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belmont bob · #**13267** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

A forlorn looking Pan Pacific Auditorium four years before it was destroyed by fire.

May 24, 1989

http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/1...PanPacific.htm
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I remember attending an auto show c.1960 and also Ice Follies or such with my parents probably more than once. Grand building for sure.

belmont bob · #**13268** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Los Angeles Street Department steamroller circa 1910.

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I'd apply for this job..if I were 25 years old...well maybe not..

GaylordWilshire · #**13269** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by alester young

Thanks for the post e_r. The building is enhanced in the earliest photo by the period 1950s cars. That is noir. The modern street scene is much more dull with the bland modern cars, all in uber "safe" colors -white, silver, black, black, black, silver, white. Where has the flamboyance and confidence gone? Does this say something about society today and conformity? Give me two tone and chrome any day. I'll now stop flying my kite...

I was going to say that it was, of course, the people who were conformists, who were dull and bland, so the the flamboyance and confidence had to come out in their cars... but then there were Jane and Jayne...not to mention Dagmar, who lent her name to bumper guards...

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Alden Jewell
A pink Cadillac--a '57-- at the BH Hotel. I wonder how many factory-
pink Cadillacs were actually sold that year?....

Dagmars...

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How come they weren't called "Janes"?

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Or "Jaynes"?

wronskiwrambles.blogspot.com

Timing is everything, I guess.

Unfortunately, cars in just about anything but silver and black don't do as well on the resale market. And as much as I like color, silver cars seem never to need washing... just keep cleaning the wheels and a silver car looks great.

ethereal_reality · #**13270** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:38 PM**

an interesting find at a flea market

http://www.blogger.com/profile/01870045897147257935

http://avenuetotheskylakeavenuepasad...hroughway.html

http://avenuetotheskylakeavenuepasad...hroughway.html

The idea of connecting the San Gabriel Valley with the Antelope Valley in a direct route has been discussed for years. Various proposals have been floated, one of which was to build a tunnel under the San Gabriels and extend Los Angeles freeways to the north, opening up the Antelope Valley.

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FredH · #**13271** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

A forlorn looking Pan Pacific Auditorium four years before it was destroyed by fire.

John Meyerhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/donkiyoti/4401316915/

Gordon Cassidyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonc/3038384131/

looking north toward the Hollywood Hills

Gordon Cassidyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/gordonc/3038384131/

May 24, 1989

http://www.lafire.com/famous_fires/1...PanPacific.htm
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These are great color pictures of Pan Pacific Auditorium E.R. Too bad they could not have saved the place.

A long while back, I presented this question, but it was never resolved. Was the dog track in Johnny Eager (1941)
a similar structure built somewhere else, or was it just some Hollywood trickery?

Johnny Eager, 1941

Yeah, I'm weird. I know.

MichaelRyerson · #**13272** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:48 PM**

Pan_Pacific_Auditorium, 1941

I only wish the image were larger...

Pan Pacific Auditorium, located at 7600 Beverly Boulevard in the Fairfax district. Its green and white western-facing 228 foot long facade shown here features four stylized towers and flagpoles meant to represent upswept aircraft fins above the entrance.

Designed by architects Wurdemann & Becket, it was one of America's finest examples of Streamline Moderne architecture.

From 1935 to 1972, when it was closed after the Los Angeles Convention Center opened, it held numerous sporting events, rallies, circuses, and car shows. After years of neglect and failed attempts at restoration, the structure was destroyed by fire in 1989. Pan Pacific Park is now located at this site.*

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belmont bob · #**13273** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by FredH

These are great color pictures of Pan Pacific Auditorium E.R. Too bad they could not have saved the place.

A long while back, I presented this question, but it was never resolved. Was the dog track in Johnny Eager (1941)
a similar structure built somewhere else, or was it just some Hollywood trickery?

Johnny Eager, 1941

Yeah, I'm weird. I know.

wow, Iv'e lived in LA all my life and don't remember ever hearing about a dog tract...in fact, I don't know that dog racing has ever been legal in California. The horse racing folks would have exerted a lot of political pressure to keep the hounds at bay. (geez, can't even stand myself) But since I was born in 1941 maybe I missed out on something.

GaylordWilshire · #**13274** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 10:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by MichaelRyerson

Pan_Pacific_Auditorium, 1937
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Great shot, MR--don't remember seeing that one. The car on the left, though, is a 1941 Mercury...

MichaelRyerson · #**13275** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 11:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Great shot, MR--don't remember seeing that one. The car on the left, though, is a 1941 Mercury...

Funny how those archived captions go sometimes. I'm going back to my photo-stream right now to change it.

MichaelRyerson · #**13276** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 11:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by belmont bob

wow, Iv'e lived in LA all my life and don't remember ever hearing about a dog tract...in fact, I don't know that dog racing has ever been legal in California. The horse racing folks would have exerted a lot of political pressure to keep the hounds at bay. (geez, can't even stand myself) But since I was born in 1941 maybe I missed out on something.

I think Fred is actually asking about the location used for the dog track in the movie 'Johnny Eager' with Robert Taylor. Not a real dog track. And, for Fred, my vote would be yes.

ethereal_reality · #**13277** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 11:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by FredH

A long while back, I presented this question, but it was never resolved. Was the dog track in Johnny Eager (1941)
a similar structure built somewhere else, or was it just some Hollywood trickery?

Johnny Eager, 1941

FredH, I would say it's Hollywood trickery, probably a matte painting.
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belmont bob · #**13278** Posted **Mar 14, 2013, 11:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

FredH, I would say it's Hollywood trickery, probably a matte painting.
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Yes, and Michael, that was what I was leading up to, it's just Hollywood trickery and any shots of a real dog track (i've never seen the movie) would be from some other place.

GaylordWilshire · #**13279** Posted **Mar 15, 2013, 12:15 AM**

A friend of mine who doesn't post here himself--a native and lifelong Angeleno with a great sense of his city's history--found two fantastic shots of the Green in his collection and has been kind enough to allow me to post them on Noirish. He's done an incredible job of inserting what remains of the building into the original from 1894. The third picture is dated 1924.

You can see that the enlargement of the four small windows under the arches on the north side was done, as was the addition of a door, some time before 1924.

All pics: Private Collection

BifRayRock · #**13280** Posted **Mar 15, 2013, 12:28 AM**

Series of Pan Pacific Auditorium images, some of which (Bell Rocket Belt) may have been previously overlooked.

1935 Home Show

The waiting throng

1940s

1938 Captioned as Rita Hayworth and group enjoying Roller Derby. Wonder if it really was Roller Derby. Group includes: Edward Judson, Doune McKay and Gordon Oliver.

Undated

Probably not envisioned by Sam Spade or Walter Neff:
1964 - Pan Pacific enters the rocket age!

All from LAPL

Looks like the "Bevonshire Lodge" ^^^^ is still there.

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