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Old Posted Mar 12, 2013, 2:55 PM
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The back of my arm made it into the PAC report.

As for the Gallivan Ave shops, I'm happy to see restaurants moving back into those spaces. The fact that nearly every available space in the area is filling up is a good thing. I noticed recently that the Wells Fargo Parking structure now has a sandwich shop in it, facing 300 S.
     
     
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Someone remind me what the future schedule is for The Trib. building w/college.
     
     
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I have been looking into apartments in the Downtown area along any of the light rail lines for a 3-4 bedroom unit and I haven't found many that do. Most don't have more than 1-2 bedrooms. I understand why most have studio, 1 and 2 bedrooms only but not everyone wants to live or raise their family in the suburbs. Anyone know of any that have 3-4 bedroom units? I would be looking to move in the next 6-12 months.
     
     
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I have been looking into apartments in the Downtown area along any of the light rail lines for a 3-4 bedroom unit and I haven't found many that do. Most don't have more than 1-2 bedrooms. I understand why most have studio, 1 and 2 bedrooms only but not everyone wants to live or raise their family in the suburbs. Anyone know of any that have 3-4 bedroom units? I would be looking to move in the next 6-12 months.
Check these MLS's: 3 bed's near Trax

1135742: American Towers

1139254: Canyon Road Towers

1144461: Westgate Lofts

1144474: Westgate Lofts

1143688: Westgate Lofts

1142337: The Plaza

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Someone remind me what the future schedule is for The Trib. building w/college.
"Coming Soon" is all I know.
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I have been looking into apartments in the Downtown area along any of the light rail lines for a 3-4 bedroom unit and I haven't found many that do. Most don't have more than 1-2 bedrooms. I understand why most have studio, 1 and 2 bedrooms only but not everyone wants to live or raise their family in the suburbs. Anyone know of any that have 3-4 bedroom units? I would be looking to move in the next 6-12 months.
You may also chose to look at some houses or duplexes in the lower Aves. Still part of the downtown vibe, but I think the options for larger units is probably higher around there.
Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think the new housing currently under construction on 6th East (behind the KFC/A&W and the BurgerKing) is going to have some 3 bedroom units.
     
     
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I have been looking into apartments in the Downtown area along any of the light rail lines for a 3-4 bedroom unit and I haven't found many that do. Most don't have more than 1-2 bedrooms. I understand why most have studio, 1 and 2 bedrooms only but not everyone wants to live or raise their family in the suburbs. Anyone know of any that have 3-4 bedroom units? I would be looking to move in the next 6-12 months.
Are you looking to rent or buy.. Most of what was listed are condos. The building that I live has one 3 bedroom per floor I think.. But they are probably hard to get. Also.. All of the 2 bedroom units on the top floor also have an upper loft that could be used as a 3erd bedroom or office.

I think the new apartment building being built next to the biomatt building might have 3... Don't quote me on that though
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2013, 7:28 PM
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So speaking of apartments does anybody know when the Brunswick apartment will break ground? This one looks big that could stand upwards to 8-floors according to the rendering.
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Citifront, Bridges at Citifront and The Brigham all have 3 bedroom units.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2013, 7:43 PM
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I am looking to rent, as I was one of those people that lost his job in 2008 with a layoff and wasn't able to keep my house. I did have help from my local church for a bit but after awhile I decided that I couldn't keep having the church help me get by so we lost the house. So right now buying a condo isn't an option. Now if any of those condos are being rented out than I am willing to look into it if the price is right.

Yes, the building next to the Biomat does have 3 bedrooms and it is on our radar. I also know that the State Street Plaza being built by the La Porte Group will have 3-4 bedroom units. My only concern right now with the State Street Plaza is for only $1500 a month for a 4 bedroom is, how big the square footage is. I look at other locations around downtown going for that much you are only getting about 1100-1300sf of space.
     
     
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I peeked into the Tribune Building the other day when I was out at lunch. They had left the front door open. Construction is definitely moving forward. The walls were all framed up and there was lots of electrical and HVAC work going on.

I'm sure the developers of the Brunswick Apartments would love to break ground ASAP, but they still have a lot of work to do to get their building permit approved. I'm sure they're shooting to break ground in the spring so they better hurry up.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2013, 10:24 PM
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I updated the project list earlier today, and as I was driving around during lunch I realized the reality of the massive volume of housing units that are being built, just those under construction or recently finish, not even counting those proposed.

Recently Completed, in the last year:
City Creek Condos - 207
City Creek Apartments - 111
Broadway Place - 73
Rendon Terrace - 63

Under Construction:
Liberty Sugarhouse - 171
State St Plaza - 180
644 City Station - 132
Lotus Apartments - 84
Eastside Apartments - 180
Liberty Gateway - 160
CityScape Apartments - 122
Sugarhouse Crossing - 210
The Sugarhouse Apartments - 70
21 & View - 29
Merrimac Townhomes - 5

That's 1797 Units recently completed or under construction. That is a tremendous amount of housing units.

At an average of let's say 1.25 residents per unit, that alone would put SLC's population over 192,000 (2011 estimate was 189,899). I can easily see SLC breaking the 200,000 barrier in the 2020 census.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 12, 2013, 10:51 PM
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Did anyone else notice the sneak peek of the Main Street facade of the performing arts center in this video (pause at 1:09), and that the planned business tower will use part of the air rights over the UPAC. It also seems that they are planning another mid block walkway south of the Tribune building from the plan at about 0:19.

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Old Posted Mar 12, 2013, 11:00 PM
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At an average of let's say 1.25 residents per unit, that alone would put SLC's population over 192,000 (2011 estimate was 189,899). I can easily see SLC breaking the 200,000 barrier in the 2020 census.
I wouldn't bet on Salt Lake passing 200,000 by 2020 ... though, I also wouldn't bet against it, either.

For that to happen, we'd have to see the same type of economic growth that dominated the 90s - when Salt Lake's population grew by a shade over 21,000. Even this past decade, Salt Lake's population only saw an increase of 4,697 and while the current 2011 estimate suggests a surge in growth, I'm always wary of those estimates because they tend to fluctuate. But like I said, a lot will depend on the future economy. If the U.S. surges to strong growth, maybe not quite at the level of the '90s, but something far more expansive than what we've experienced the past decade, Salt Lake could make the push. But if growth continues to be slow, even if Utah's unemployment improves, Salt Lake probably won't pass 200,000.

A lot does depend on a healthy economy nationally. A big reason so many cities struggled, Salt Lake included, with losing population in the 70s and 80s is because the economic troubles of those days made it more economically viable to live in the suburbs. It's not a coincidence Salt Lake's biggest suburbs were really established in the 70s and 80s as a counter to the inner-cities. I'm thinking West Valley, Taylorsville, Kearns, and Sandy - suburbs that saw explosive growth between 1970 and 1990 (though, in many instances, it did continue into the 90s and 00s).

One major problem Salt Lake, and a great deal of other major cities faced coming out of the 90s, has is that city living was returning and more suburban types were embracing the movement. But then the economy fell into recession in 2001 and the recovery out of that recession was stunted and eventually completely undone by the economic recession (depression) of 2007 and '08 and while we're now starting to climb out of it, after all these years, it caused a lost decade and forced many of those same city dwellers to move back out to the suburbs where it's cheaper. Just look at SLC to get a full sense of what I mean. In the 90s, the city's population grew 13.6% and in the 00s, only 2.6%. It's not a coincidence the growth petered out in the 00s, even though the city was really starting to embrace downtown residential living. The economic downturn killed momentum. Hopefully with the economy improving, we can gain some of it back.

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"Tax break for downtown hotel survives Senate"

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55989300-90/bill-break-county-hotel.html.csp


The bill about the convention center hotel is now going to the House after squeaking through the Senate. Thursday is the last day that the legislature is in session so we should hear about the outcome really quick, whether it is passed, killed, or ignored.

It will be interesting to see how the House votes. The Trib article makes it seem like it faces an uphill vote, especially considering the two people quoted sound negative and against it. However, this may not be a huge issue since those two people are from Orem/Provo and almost every legislator from Utah County, except one, voted against the senate proposal and it was still able to pass. Any predictions of what will happen with the bill?

Here is the breakdown of where the Senators are from the voted for and against (there could be more than one from each place. For example, there were 4 from SLC that voted in favor):

For: Layton, Provo, Ogden, SLC, South Jordan, Monroe, West Valley, St George, Woodscross

Against: Orem, Taylorsville, Spanish Fork, Logan, Plain City, West Valley, Draper, Lehi, Sandy, Brigham City, Vernal, Cedar
     
     
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Yes if you pause at around 1:09 on the left side there is a model of the project that gives a good idea of the look and size of the PAC. The PAC looks to be almost as tall as the old Tribune building only two floors shy.
The Tower is off to the side and can't really see it. But it looks like the design phase is a bit behind the rest since it's just a blank box look. But it looks tall.
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"Tax break for downtown hotel survives Senate"

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55989300-90/bill-break-county-hotel.html.csp


The bill about the convention center hotel is now going to the House after squeaking through the Senate. Thursday is the last day that the legislature is in session so we should hear about the outcome really quick, whether it is passed, killed, or ignored.

It will be interesting to see how the House votes. The Trib article makes it seem like it faces an uphill vote, especially considering the two people quoted sound negative and against it. However, this may not be a huge issue since those two people are from Orem/Provo and almost every legislator from Utah County, except one, voted against the senate proposal and it was still able to pass. Any predictions of what will happen with the bill?

Here is the breakdown of where the Senators are from the voted for and against (there could be more than one from each place. For example, there were 4 from SLC that voted in favor):

For: Layton, Provo, Ogden, SLC, South Jordan, Monroe, West Valley, St George, Woodscross

Against: Orem, Taylorsville, Spanish Fork, Logan, Plain City, West Valley, Draper, Lehi, Sandy, Brigham City, Vernal, Cedar
Seems like there's more Against it then for it.
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Seems like there's more Against it then for it.
Sorry I knew that would be confusing. The for and against is who voted to it in the senate, where it passed 15-13-1 (one person abstained or was absent). Like I said, each city could have multiple people from it, like the multiple people in favor that are from SLC and Layton. I put that up so you could see where the Senators were from that voted in favor and against, to get a rough idea of what will probably happen in the House.
     
     
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Citifront, Bridges at Citifront and The Brigham all have 3 bedroom units.
I forgot about Brigham.. Seems like they were pretty reasonable for the area and size... I would have moved there if not for the no pet thing...

Bridges at cityfront were originally intended to be condos so they are pretty nice for apartments... However they are right next to the railroad tracks.. I probably would have ended up movie there if I hadn't found this place during construction.

Seems like they are building apartments everywhere now

I really like my apartments.. They all have granit counters... They also have gas appliances which is rare for apartments
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I updated the project list earlier today, and as I was driving around during lunch I realized the reality of the massive volume of housing units that are being built, just those under construction or recently finish, not even counting those proposed.

Recently Completed, in the last year:
City Creek Condos - 207
City Creek Apartments - 111
Broadway Place - 73
Rendon Terrace - 63

Under Construction:
Liberty Sugarhouse - 171
State St Plaza - 180
644 City Station - 132
Lotus Apartments - 84
Eastside Apartments - 180
Liberty Gateway - 160
CityScape Apartments - 122
Sugarhouse Crossing - 210
The Sugarhouse Apartments - 70
21 & View - 29
Merrimac Townhomes - 5

That's 1797 Units recently completed or under construction. That is a tremendous amount of housing units.

At an average of let's say 1.25 residents per unit, that alone would put SLC's population over 192,000 (2011 estimate was 189,899). I can easily see SLC breaking the 200,000 barrier in the 2020 census.
Providence Place, Liberty Citywalk, Seasons at City Creek ...well over 2,000 units. Quite impressive.

Salt Lake's population growth from 2000-2010 is a little misleading as it soared a bit right before 2000 because of the Olympics, and had a significant drop off directly after. From that point on (2003 - 2010) the city grew pretty well. 200,000 by next census would be very impressive.
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