Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3

[Viperlord]

Originally Posted by UTPlanner

There is also a new 150 unit apartment building being proposed on 600 West and North Temple. I don't know a lot about it yet but I think it's a 6 story structure. They are preparing to submit plans very soon.

1. Project Summary.

Giv Development LLC (the “Developer”) The North Sixth Project
The Project consists of a single mixed market and low-income development that will be financed primarily using low-income housing tax credits (“LIHTC”). The Project will be constructed just south of the corner of North Temple and 600 West in Salt Lake City, Utah, on land located between 600 West and the railroad tracks. The project may involve a single structure, or several structures, with an approximate total of 150 residential units, the precise unit mix of which has yet to be determined. The primary anticipated structure will be four to five stories of wood frame construction on top of one
to two stories of above-ground structured parking.

2. Anticipated Schedule.
The Developer will make application for tax credits to Utah Housing Corporation
for its 2013 funding cycle, with applications due on October 1, 2012. Construction on the
Project should commence by approximately September 1, 2013, and finish by
approximately September 1, 2014.

[Viperlord]

Originally Posted by UTPlanner

On a different subject, just a little bit of insider information for everybody, but I have heard rumblings about a new development on the NW corner of 400 South and West Temple. I don't know a lot of information but it would include an office tower and retail and may have a residential component.

Hopefully between that and the hotel listed below, we can see some more density along 400 south soon.

a bit of older news.......

Another hotel......
May 11, 2012

http://www.costar.com/News/Article/H...ke-City/138375

http://www.congoo.com/news/addstoryc...ategory_ID=147

Hotel Corner LLC acquired 0.78 acres at the southeast corner of 400 S 200 W in Salt Lake City, UT, where it plans to construct a new hotel. Driftwood Hospitality Management LLC sold the parcel for $901,822. Kip Paul of Commerce Real Estate Solutions brokered the deal.

[SLC Projects]

Yea I guess it would be NW of 400 S. and West Temple not SE Duh. Still it does bug me a bit that blocks or land that already has buildings are being redevelop in that area when we have that damn parking lot that I wonder will it ever be develop into something. Oh well. This development sounds like good news overall that will add much needed height to that area.

[SLC Projects]

As for the 150 unit apartment for North temple I say the more up and down North Temple the better. Let's just hope this won't be a Cowboy Partners project as well.

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

Hopefully between that and the hotel listed below, we can see some more density along 400 south soon.

a bit of older news.......

Another hotel......
May 11, 2012

http://www.costar.com/News/Article/H...ke-City/138375

http://www.congoo.com/news/addstoryc...ategory_ID=147

Hotel Corner LLC acquired 0.78 acres at the southeast corner of 400 S 200 W in Salt Lake City, UT, where it plans to construct a new hotel. Driftwood Hospitality Management LLC sold the parcel for $901,822. Kip Paul of Commerce Real Estate Solutions brokered the deal.

That's a small lot to pay almost $1 million for, IMO. I'm guessing that they are going to add some height and some mass to make it pay off. No 3 story Crystal Inn, I'm hoping. I also hope that it is built to the sidewalk.

That's going to be 3 more small to medium sized hotels in downtown. How is the convention hotel going to be built with all of these small guys popping up all over?

[Orlando]

Thank you UT Planner and Viperlord for the info! I'm doubtful of that office building on the corner of NW corner of 400S & W. Temple will be of any height significance, just because of how difficult it has been to procure enough tenants for our other hopeful office highrises. But, I'm hopefule that it will be built. We definitely need to lose that auto repair place right there. Any new development in that area is good news to me.

[UTPlanner]

Someone asked earlier about the hotels just south of the ESA. Hyatt House has submitted plans for a new hotel at the site and a parking garage. They haven't yet submitted plans for a planned second hotel.

[Future Mayor]

I don't really think the small hotels with a 50-200 rooms will affect the overall demand for the Convention Center Hotel. The CCH is in demand because we need 800-1000 rooms all in one hotel, adjacent and/or connected to the Salt Palace, with additional convention space.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by scottharding

Also, can anyone post a picture of the old Biomat building being discussed? I have no idea what it is.

It's the red building halfway down the previous page.

[Viperlord]

Originally Posted by Orlando

That's a small lot to pay almost $1 million for, IMO. I'm guessing that they are going to add some height and some mass to make it pay off. No 3 story Crystal Inn, I'm hoping. I also hope that it is built to the sidewalk.

That's going to be 3 more small to medium sized hotels in downtown. How is the convention hotel going to be built with all of these small guys popping up all over?

Hotel Corner LLC acquired 0.78 acres at the southeast corner of 400 S 200 W in Salt Lake City, UT
The property that they bought is in the D-1 zoning in the downown district. Which the zoning for the d-1 district requires corner lot buildings to be atleast 100' tall.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

Hotel Corner LLC acquired 0.78 acres at the southeast corner of 400 S 200 W in Salt Lake City, UT
The property that they bought is in the D-1 zoning in the downown district. Which the zoning for the d-1 district requires corner lot buildings to be atleast 100' tall.

Good point. This would also apply to the NW corner of 400 S and W. Temple. so the tower will have to be at least 10 stories tall.

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by Viperlord

Hotel Corner LLC acquired 0.78 acres at the southeast corner of 400 S 200 W in Salt Lake City, UT
The property that they bought is in the D-1 zoning in the downown district. Which the zoning for the d-1 district requires corner lot buildings to be atleast 100' tall.

Maybe the developers who bought the property are hoping the convention hotel will be built on their property?

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Good point. This would also apply to the NW corner of 400 S and W. Temple. so the tower will have to be at least 10 stories tall.

The new Courthouse tower is 10-stories. Not sure if it's 100 FT or less since I can't find any info anywhere regarding how many feet the tower is. If a building has to be at least 100 feet for the D1 zoning then yes I think your right that this office building would be around 10-stories or about the same heigh as the Courthouse tower across the street. Hope so.

[ajiuO]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

This one really intrigues me, I would assume it would consist of all the buildings and parking between 400 S and Gracies. That would be a great corner for an office building, while 20+ would be the dream, I'd be happy to see a midrise between 10-15 on that corner, the courthouse is only a tall 10. I think this would be a great time for the city to break up the block a little bit, extend Market St halfway into that block and then connect it north to 300 S. The residential component could then be built on the SW corner of Market St and W. Temple.




I am assuming this would be the NW corner of the intersection, the former Biomat building, but I would rather it be the SE Corner. Is there any more room on the NE corner, between the viaduct and the new senior housing?

While I like to hear that there is more residential being proposed in that area, Do we REALLY need to tear down every older building?

I would really like to see the former biomat building be reused, it has a great design to it and while not as tall, reminds me of the Shubrick (Port O' Call). I think that would be a great location for a restaurant or bar, and some additional small retail. This corner needs some sort of retail component to it, particularly with the new senior apartments, the new ones between Biomat and I-15 and being at the bottom of the viaduct Trax Station. The retail on the SW corner, in that apartment complex is being converted to apartments, so if the former biomat is torn down and replaced with all residential, there will be no retail, resulting in a not very walkable neighborhood, and nothing but new buildings, no variety older than 20 years.

I agree that the old biomatt building should be reused... I think radio shack would be a good fit for part of it... Then they can rip that whole god awful SW corner of 900 south and n temple down :-)

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by Future Mayor

This one really intrigues me, I would assume it would consist of all the buildings and parking between 400 S and Gracies. That would be a great corner for an office building, while 20+ would be the dream, I'd be happy to see a midrise between 10-15 on that corner, the courthouse is only a tall 10. I think this would be a great time for the city to break up the block a little bit, extend Market St halfway into that block and then connect it north to 300 S. The residential component could then be built on the SW corner of Market St and W. Temple.

That's a great idea Future Mayor! Extend Market Street westard and then bend it north to 300 south next to Squatter's.


Here's a quick mockup of what 100' would mean for those two new buildings on 400 south.




Can any of you see these images I posted?

[ctobsl]

Originally Posted by scottharding

So I assume all those buildings and the land is owned by a single owner? What's that process, when those three business will be forced to relocate?
I like that art store and the restaurant. I've been to both a few times. I hope they will remain downtown. There's plenty of spaces they could go to.

Also, can anyone post a picture of the old Biomat building being discussed? I have no idea what it is.

The Biomat building, old and new is 5 postings up from your posting. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6041689&postcount=2715

[ajiuO]

My thoughts on North Temple now that construction is done..

I think the old Biomatt building could look really good with some love. They need to pull the plywood out of he upper windows, replace all the windows, tear down the horrible looking wood extension on the east side of the upper floor, remove the swamp coolers on the side of the building, and do some fresh paint.

I would like to see everything along the east side of 600 west between north and south temple ripped down... It sounds like they want to build apartments there.. So hopefully that happens... The collapsed building on the corner of 600 west and north temple needs to go ASAP!

I think the Old Wonder bread building could also be made to look nice by ripping down the sign on he corner of the building and maybe put some large windows in.. facing north temple.

I'm really glad Der Weinershintzle opted to renovate the outside of the building instead of tearing it down and building a new style building... There are not many of that style left and I am glad to see it stay

I use to hate the red Iguana building.. But I gave it a good look over.. And it's really not that bad.. I vote to keep it.

I would love to see the old blue boteqe building and conjoining houses along that part of north temple demolished.

I would like to see the whole ¡Viva block demolished and redeveloped with a new grocery store as an anchor. It should be build facing north temple and include small retail.

All of the garbage on the SW corner of of 900 west needs to go.. The Dollar Center, Radio Shack, and the little car place... Radio Shack could relocate to the bottom of the Biomatt building... The other two places can relocate to west valley for all I care... The old auto place on the SE corner should also go.. I think it's a Firestone now.. That would be a good spot for a gas station.

Archi Burgers turned out to be kind of nice and should stay.

They should go forward with the fairgrounds redevelopment protect... But they should restore the brick barns along north temple... Not tear them down.

The land across the stree from the fairgrounds... that the state plans on using for office buildings 20 years down the line should be paved and turned in to a park and jet until they are ready to develop it.

There are a lot of old food facilities along N temple that should be ripped down.. Including the old taco time and almost everything surrounding it, and possibly the old Apollo burger.

I would like to see mixed retail and apartments built in front of all of the trailer park area... That whole section of north temple needs some good ideas

All of the land north of southerlands should be developed.


Last but not least... I would love, love, love to see every single one of the dingy motels along north temple ripped down and replaced with apartments with base retail.. And stuff like that

[delts145]

Zagat digs Salt Lake City’s food scene

The Salt Lake Tribune

Salt Lake City was listed as one of seven "Up-and-Coming Food Cities," along with Charleston, Boulder, Colo., Athens, Ga., Louisville, Kent., Nashville and Birmingham, Ala., in a new Zagat blog post.

It says our "burgeoning culinary scene is undeniably exciting," citing restaurants like Pago and Forage that emphasize local products.


—Heather May

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/entertainment2/55968740-223/lake-salt-zagat-cities.html.csp

[Makid]

The new courthouse is at least 150' if not closer to 200'. I do hope that the planned tower to the west of the courthouse will be at least 200'. It will help the skyline move more to the west.

I do wonder though, with all of the new activity taking place along 4th South, when will the University line be extended down 4th South to the hub.

Regarding the numerous smaller hotels potentially taking away the need for the Convention Hotel, I can say that the smaller hotels won't even scratch the need for the Convention Hotel. What is currently needed is at least 1 1000 room hotel connected to the Convention Center. There is also a convention need of another 800+ room hotel directly nearby.

The main Convention Hotel would allow us to pick up some additional conventions and keep OR for at least 5 to 6 more years. OR would still occupy all hotel rooms in a 50 mile radius.

For the company that runs OR to bring more conventions here (which they have said they would if rooms were available) we would need the 2nd hotel nearby.

All of this could happen without a single penny of tax payer money by using tax deferments for the public infrastructure that would be included.

I have heard that there are also developers that would build hotels near the Convention Center but they would be strictly hotels with minimal meeting space and public amenities. They would potentially build shortly after information regarding room night reservations are released for the Convention Hotel.

This does mean it is possible that we will see another city of cranes in the next 2 to 5 years downtown.

[Future Mayor]

How about something like this?

I extended Market St/Post Office Place into the Gracies block, and placed the N/S road further away from Squatters, allowing it to connect to both 400 S and Pierpont. While the new roads don't break the blocks in quarters, it does break it into four sections. I think it would really give the area some serious walkability and vibrancy. The parking could have access from both 125 W and W. Temple, and could have designated parking for the residential. The residential and office would have some retail on all four streets, this would be especially critical on 125 W, in order to make it a walkable and inviting street. The streets can all be two way with parallel parking on both sides, just like the existing Market Street, which has a very pedestrian scale to it.