Winnipeg Construction

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by steveosnyder

Why does the City own hockey rinks at all? I never understood why the City would own and operate hockey arenas (or swimming pools, or parking structures, etc., etc.).

I think the City and Province funding CC's to do the operating is a step in the right direction, just like the Assiniboine Park Conservancy. Fund groups that are less bureaucratic and smarter with their money.

Hockey, and all sports, should operate the same way. Private ownership of facilities and people pay to play. If a family can't afford to play, they apply for subsidies through Sport Manitoba.

You do realize that every community center is actually owned by the City of Winnipeg and just operated by quasi arms length organizations?

Further, I think in all of Winnipeg there is a grand total of eight privately owned indoor rinks, four at the IcePlex, three at CanLan (Highlander) and MTS Centre. Everything else is City owned. What is commonly called a "City owned" rink are those that actually are not operated by a quasi arms length group such as a community centre board.

I was pleased to see the announcement of a field house, just disappointed that it is going to the rather privileged suburbs. I would have much rather seen a similar facility built at the Freight House site giving the economically disadvantaged from the inner city a chance to use it.

[steveosnyder]

Originally Posted by CoryB

You do realize that every community center is actually owned by the City of Winnipeg and just operated by quasi arms length organizations?

Further, I think in all of Winnipeg there is a grand total of eight privately owned indoor rinks, four at the IcePlex, three at CanLan (Highlander) and MTS Centre. Everything else is City owned. What is commonly called a "City owned" rink are those that actually are not operated by a quasi arms length group such as a community centre board.

I was pleased to see the announcement of a field house, just disappointed that it is going to the rather privileged suburbs. I would have much rather seen a similar facility built at the Freight House site giving the economically disadvantaged from the inner city a chance to use it.

Notice how I said a step in the right direction, then I stated what that final step would be... I understand the business practice of the GCWCC, quite well actually. Further, CC's actually have to do some fundraising on their own. They don't get ALL of their money from taxes. They also have volunteers to operate the facility etc. As I said, they are much less bureaucratic and waste a lot less money because they actually have to work for it.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by CoryB

You do realize that every community center is actually owned by the City of Winnipeg and just operated by quasi arms length organizations?

Further, I think in all of Winnipeg there is a grand total of eight privately owned indoor rinks, four at the IcePlex, three at CanLan (Highlander) and MTS Centre. Everything else is City owned. What is commonly called a "City owned" rink are those that actually are not operated by a quasi arms length group such as a community centre board.

I was pleased to see the announcement of a field house, just disappointed that it is going to the rather privileged suburbs. I would have much rather seen a similar facility built at the Freight House site giving the economically disadvantaged from the inner city a chance to use it.

theres a indoor ice rink on logan between the salter st bridge and arlington bridge

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by steveosnyder

Notice how I said a step in the right direction, then I stated what that final step would be... I understand the business practice of the GCWCC, quite well actually. Further, CC's actually have to do some fundraising on their own. They don't get ALL of their money from taxes. They also have volunteers to operate the facility etc. As I said, they are much less bureaucratic and waste a lot less money because they actually have to work for it.

as someone whos serverd on the Norquay community center board.

i can tell u that the city severaly underfunds all cc's its rediculas. and my community center was the best funded inner city cc from what i understand witch is scarry as its not really enough. the city also aboloshed the board of it recently. i had to step down last yr when my work got in the way of meetings. i prolly should go poke my nose around it and see how things are going...

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

as someone whos serverd on the Norquay community center board.

i can tell u that the city severaly underfunds all cc's its rediculas. and my community center was the best funded inner city cc from what i understand witch is scarry as its not really enough. the city also aboloshed the board of it recently. i had to step down last yr when my work got in the way of meetings. i prolly should go poke my nose around it and see how things are going...

Good for you for stepping up for your local club, I think the way community clubs are run and funded right across the city is messed up.

[Riverman]

Glasshouse floor plans:

http://anybody-want-a-peanut.blogspot.ca/2013/02/people-in-glass-houses-should-buy-small.html

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Good for you for stepping up for your local club, I think the way community clubs are run and funded right across the city is messed up.

if theres one thing one should do is least stick their nose into their local cc see how its running and vollenteer once and a while or join the board and or attened the agm's you never know you may accedently save ur cc from folding

[steveosnyder]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

as someone whos serverd on the Norquay community center board.

i can tell u that the city severaly underfunds all cc's its rediculas. and my community center was the best funded inner city cc from what i understand witch is scarry as its not really enough. the city also aboloshed the board of it recently. i had to step down last yr when my work got in the way of meetings. i prolly should go poke my nose around it and see how things are going...

Perhaps the reason the City underfunds all the CC's is that they compete with them all the time, both for funding and by repeating programs.

The City competes by running programs through the Leisure Guide, something that could (and should) let be organized by more local groups within the communities. They compete by operating arenas, more repeated services that is already being done by CC's.

If the City decreased funding in areas where they are repeating services they would be in a position to increase the funding to CC's, front line people who know the community's wants and needs far better than the bureaucrats.

But the problem is that the bureaucrats hold the council... They decrease funding to various groups then give them the same funding in the form of "capital grants". They are robbing Peter to pay Paul. That money that Council is "giving" CC's for their 2 big projects is nothing but the money that they cut from the CC's budgets 4 or 5 years ago. It's a bureaucratic savings plan, and it's a tool that councillors use to get re-elected.

[DonaldSmith]

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Hotel on Waterfront



Sky phase II

[Riverman]

Shrink your pictures!!!

I use IrfanView, it is a free download.

[c@taract_soulj@h]

Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

Because it seems that the city is more keen on making jobs for people than doing what they are supposed to.

This should probably be for the politics thread, but I will post it here. Despite my niavity, lack of knowledge, lack of "proper education" (as I have been to university and am currently still attending post-secondary), maturity, expertise, and general inability to succeed, I have let my passion allow me to believe that I should one day run for office, regardless of the likely failure.

Anyways, that being said, I have been slowly going over the city's budget in an attempt to create my own plan for how the city should be run. And what I have found astonishes me. I have made it through 1/8 of the city's released compensation disclosure form (which contains the salary for every civil servant, from the Janitor at your local CC to the Mayor himself) and I am, appalled at how much money is just thrown away.

To give you an idea of what I mean, there is a man who's title is "Manager of the decision making process" for the city clerks office. This man makes 114 000 dollars a year. Considering that the lowest salary in the clerks office -and by far the lowest considering it is a 10 000 jump to the next lowest- is 54 000 dollars, I would like to hope that they can all make their decisions on their own.

To conclude, 1/8th through the compensation sheet and I have managed to save 5.5 million dollars, without cutting a single job, or even touching current bloated policies that are in place (which I definitely intend to do, come the near future).

To stop this thread from derailing here are some bomber photos.

It's almost done...





Two of these beasts going up... One on either end zone.


Box suite.














They may not be the best, but they are up there in the top 3. And it is unfortunate for me to say that they have never won a Grey Cup in my lifetime. I was born the year following their last Grey Cup.




All photo's are from www.thebluebombers.com

Man I'm jealous of your new stadium...we in Hamilton would do anything just a have a bloody roof on ours. Your new digs are lookin good tho!

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by Riverman

Shrink your pictures!!!

I use IrfanView, it is a free download.

Or even less effort:


Use "?w=XXX&h=YYY" after the url.

Ie the above example:
http://i.imgur.com/Ul8QQ66.jpg?w=1280&h=960

[headhorse]

this is just a rumour, but whoever runs the Royal Albert's FB page (Jorgenson?) indicates that there are plans to open a "mini casino" in the St Charles Hotel.

[caseyvill]

Looks like the new development at Confusion corner is going somewhere.
http://imgur.com/UvWi0xN

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by headhorse

this is just a rumour, but whoever runs the Royal Albert's FB page (Jorgenson?) indicates that there are plans to open a "mini casino" in the St Charles Hotel.

and thats why center venture has to go

[bomberjet]

Question, maybe vik can help. At the new U of W Fieldhouse, it says they accommodate baseball. So is that a full size baseball field? If so, that's awesome. I know it would be on the multi-use field, which sounds like it will be rather large.

Same deal at Dakota, I mean Jonathon Toews Community Centre

Is there any other places around with year round baseball? Full size.

http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/index/news-united-health-and-recplex
http://winnipeg.ca/cao/media/news/nr_2013/nr_20130222.stm#3

[wags_in_the_peg]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

and thats why center venture has to go

they are not getting a mini-casino, unless it's an illegal one

[Riverman]

That is a great tip Cheswick, thank you.

[chrisallard5454]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=...475512.178253.97884715512&type=1&theater

[1ajs]

theres a for lease sign on the 4play space