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  #161  
Old Posted Dec 5, 2012, 2:28 AM
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one of the neatest buildings i've seen anywhere, if this one comes out anything like the maquette, it'll be iconic, certainly in the design community, likely in all of canada.
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I was wondering if anyone has heard any recent news or rumors about this project? I haven't seen or heard anything in months.
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Project is going back to the UDP for it's taller revision on Feb 13.

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Revised proposal for a mixed-use development including: on the Howe Street site, identified under the General Policy for Higher Buildings as a location for a higher building, a 52-storey (497 ft.) residential tower with a 10-storey podium containing retail and residential (market rental) uses; and on the Granville and Pacific Street sites, 6-storey (up to 106 ft.) buildings providing retail and office uses
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Project is going back to the UDP for it's taller revision on Feb 13.
The first pass through the UDP was a workshop, if I am not mistaken, so this is the actual voting session for the project's rezoning?
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2013, 11:44 PM
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Wow interesting building i like it
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New model showing the increased height in context to neighbourhood current and future.





Models illustrating the podium 'barn door' openings by Pacific.












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Old Posted Feb 12, 2013, 10:29 AM
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Thanks for posting!

I think the "checkerboard" on the lowrises will be the subject of many future comments.

I think the lack of detailing on the lowrises makes them look like afterthoughts or second tier buildings.
(i.e. add a few box frames to the flat facades...)
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New model showing the increased height in context to neighbourhood current and future.


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You can also see the new future neighbourhood configuration with the circular Graville bridge on/off ramps removed.
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It would be a nice effect if the future tower on the other side of the bridge was a mirror reflection of this one.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2013, 8:38 PM
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Hopefully it will be the same height.
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2013, 9:50 PM
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If you beleive the remaining gateway site should be of similar height and a complimentary form then let the city know.

Here is latest revision and should be fairly close to the end result.

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•Howe Street sites: a 52-storey (497 ft.) residential tower with 407 residential units and a 10-storey podium containing retail and 95 residential units (market rental). These sites were identified under the General Policy for Higher Buildings as a location for a higher building
•Granville and Pacific Street sites: 6-storey buildings (up to 106 ft.) providing retail and office uses. The Under the Granville Bridge Neighbourhood Commercial Centre Policies and Guidelines anticipate a locally-serving commercial node in this location

Changes from the previous submission (dated September 14, 2012) include:

•Refinements to the podium buildings and their massing
•Programmatic modifications (i.e., changes to the location and size of various uses within the proposed development)
•Modifications to the public realm
•Increase in the number of storeys of the tower from 51 to 52
•An increase in the floor space ratio from 5.01 to 5.08
•Reduction in the number of parking spaces from 655 to 609
Revised Application (December 17, 2012)

Cover, Introduction, and Index
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...12-1460howe/documents/cover-toc_rev2.pdf

Rezoning Rationale Statement
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...-1460howe/documents/rzrationale_rev2.pdf

Uses and Sizes
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...ns/1412-1460howe/documents/uses_rev2.pdf

Urban Views
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...s/1412-1460howe/documents/views_rev2.pdf

Urban Components. City Analysis
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...1460howe/documents/cityanalysis_rev2.pdf

Urban Constraints. The Tower - Generation Diagrams
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...s/1412-1460howe/documents/tower_rev2.pdf

Height Rationale
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan.../1412-1460howe/documents/height_rev2.pdf

Skyline Studies
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...1412-1460howe/documents/skyline_rev2.pdf

Shadow Studies
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...1412-1460howe/documents/shadows_rev2.pdf

Public Realm. The Base - Generation Diagrams
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan.../1412-1460howe/documents/podium_rev2.pdf

Public Realm Under the Granville Bridge
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...-1460howe/documents/publicrealm_rev2.pdf

Public Realm Vision
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan.../1412-1460howe/documents/vision_rev2.pdf

Studies for Greener Larger Sites. Urban Performance
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...1412-1460howe/documents/greener_rev2.pdf

Sustainability. Architectural Performance
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...60howe/documents/sustainability_rev2.pdf

Sustainable Management
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...412-1460howe/documents/sustmgmt_rev2.pdf

LEED
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...ns/1412-1460howe/documents/leed_rev2.pdf

Landscape
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...12-1460howe/documents/landscape_rev2.pdf

Height Studies. Urban Views Impact Analysis
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...460howe/documents/heightstudies_rev2.pdf

Structural Analysis
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...2-1460howe/documents/structural_rev2.pdf

Transportation Review
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...60howe/documents/transportation_rev2.pdf

Project Data
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...-1460howe/documents/projectdata_rev2.pdf

Context Plan
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...-1460howe/documents/contextplan_rev2.pdf

Site Plan
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...412-1460howe/documents/siteplan_rev2.pdf

Podium Floor Plans
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...-1460howe/documents/podiumplans_rev2.pdf

General Elevation Drawings
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...s/1412-1460howe/documents/elevs_rev2.pdf

General Section Drawings
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...412-1460howe/documents/sections_rev2.pdf

Tower and Rental Floor Plans
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...2-1460howe/documents/residplans_rev2.pdf

Tower FSR Calculation
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...12-1460howe/documents/fsrcalcs._rev2.pdf

Landscape Plans
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plan...60howe/documents/landscapeplans_rev2.pdf

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Old Posted Feb 12, 2013, 11:28 PM
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Thanks!

Under Skyline Studies - check out the relative floorplates. The diagonal of the floorpate will be as wide as Shangri-la's diagonal.

Under Podium Floor Plans - you can see that there's a food store with liquor store one level below (retail on 3 levels terraced into the hillside) and a drugstore planned for the other small retail building.
The big tenants and triangular buildings mean that there won't be any room for the a lot of smaller retail "mix" - and maybe only one of the remaining sites looks big enough for a full service restaurant - but I'll bet a bank gobbles up that space (i.e. the rest look cafe or coffee shop sized).

Under Public Realm Vision - the potential link from the podia courtyards to the Granville Bridge median greenway is interesting (although it would be hard to find for those no familiar with it).

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Old Posted Feb 13, 2013, 6:56 PM
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What about the future streetcar option along Pacific? I am interested if there is any consideration for station or switch with this development as the option does not extend beyond Burrard it would have to be closer to this area. The new development would definitely provide the anchor for this line. Looking a the transportation review, there is nothing specific. I just hope it is considered even if the line doesn't come for another 20 years.
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Old Posted Feb 13, 2013, 7:33 PM
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At present, the streetcar is supposed to turn up Drake from Pacific - so it is quite far from this project. Pacific under the bridge is pretty congested at times, so introducing a streetcar there wouldn't work (neither for the streetacr schedule, nor for traffic). In terms of retail, Burrard Gateway (on Drake) would provide anchor for the streetcar as well.
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Up Drake? Really? The street that turns into an alley?

Why isn't it planned to run up Davie? That makes much more sense to me.
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Old Posted Feb 13, 2013, 10:46 PM
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Davie has that little steep hill at Homer - I think that must be why. Drake has a shallower slope.
It's not presently intended to go into the West End.
(But stupidly, the CoV has also diverted the bikeway portion of the Helmcken Greenway from Helmcken to Drake - also probably because of the grades.)
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2013, 5:43 AM
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So they haven't managed to acquire the SW corner of the site yet?
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2013, 6:02 AM
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SW corner looks like it's going to be orphaned, a lose-lose situation for all parties unfortunately. Can't force an owner to sell for market prices and can't force a buyer to pay above market prices.
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2013, 7:35 AM
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SW corner looks like it's going to be orphaned, a lose-lose situation for all parties unfortunately. Can't force an owner to sell for market prices and can't force a buyer to pay above market prices.
What effect will this have on the project?
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Old Posted Feb 14, 2013, 9:28 AM
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None, the project is designed w/o it.
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