YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 238

craneSpotter · #**4741** Posted **Jan 10, 2013, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by tayser

However, I dare say YVR would be just like LAX - 50% of all Australians dont make it beyond the west coast of the USA (Vegas about as far inland as they go) and I dare say it'd be the same in Canada with Vancouver (Banff/Jasper/maybe Calgary etc) - "Whistler Express" etc etc.

You are correct re: YVR - about 45-50% of Australian visits to Canada are to BC (YVR - Whistler mostly). But they appear to wander farther east here - The next largest destination for Aussies in Canada after BC is Ontario with about 20% of the overnight visits.

http://en-corporate.canada.travel

trofirhen · #**4742** Posted **Jan 11, 2013, 10:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by craneSpotter

You are correct re: YVR - about 45-50% of Australian visits to Canada are to BC (YVR - Whistler mostly). But they appear to wander farther east here - The next largest destination for Aussies in Canada after BC is Ontario with about 20% of the overnight visits.

http://en-corporate.canada.travel

Does this have any positive (or negative) implications for the possibility of a new scheduled YVR - MEL route? That's something I'd love to see.

deasine · #**4743** Posted **Jan 13, 2013, 1:55 AM**

Construction seems to be occurring at Pier B-Domestic and there's already a temporary walkway constructed to access the Pier B gates.

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On a different note, here's a picture I had the opportunity of taking today from the Control Tower.

hollywoodnorth · #**4744** Posted **Jan 13, 2013, 2:30 AM**

wow the Canada Post faculty looks massive! thanks for the pic!

it makes the UPS faculty look like a fire station in size >> http://goo.gl/maps/Dfiva

officedweller · #**4745** Posted **Jan 14, 2013, 10:27 PM**

Compared to the Google map, it looks like they closed a road for the Canada Post building.

cyeg66 · #**4746** Posted **Jan 16, 2013, 8:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

wow the Canada Post faculty looks massive!

Yes, quite the large building indeed. Your tax dollars hardly...er...I mean, hard at work. Of course, their union(s) plays a large part in its (non) productivity.

craneSpotter · #**4747** Posted **Jan 16, 2013, 11:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Does this have any positive (or negative) implications for the possibility of a new scheduled YVR - MEL route? That's something I'd love to see.

Well, not an expert at city pairing by airlines, but there would be a few things about the traffic between Canada and Australia that would factor in with regard to a scheduled link between YVR-MEL:

1) The traffic is somewhat seasonal - not spread out evenly.
2) The traffic is 60% leisure. (lower yield?)
3) The traffic volume can vary quite a bit from year to year.

Maybe somebody would try a seasonal charter first?

Johnny Aussie · #**4748** Posted **Jan 16, 2013, 11:54 PM**

Wow.

China Eastern is the latest Chinese airline to boost services to YVR.

Summer 2013, MU will have 13 weekly YVR-PVG up from 11 last summer.

They are adding a daily except Sunday flight departing YVR at 0130 starting mid June.

With this latest increase YVR-China this upcoming summer will see a significant boost to capacity!

MU - 13 weekly (up from 11)
CA - 11 weekly (up from 7)
CZ - 7 weekly (up from 5)
3U - 3 weekly (same - for now)
AC - 18 weekly (up from 14)

Total - 52 weekly (up from 40)

Valley_Refugee · #**4749** Posted **Jan 18, 2013, 12:34 PM**

Johnny_Aussie, I'm entirely too lazy to do a full comparison, but by my count YVR has the most carriers serving mainland China routes (MU, CA, CZ, 3U, AC) , tied with LAX at least (CA, AA, CZ, UA, MU). Most mainland China carriers for sure (4). Most frequencies I didn't take a stab at, but I imagine it can't be lower than (and probably exceeds) all but LAX and maybe SFO.

whatnext · #**4750** Posted **Jan 18, 2013, 7:51 PM**

There's a billboard up on Cessna advertising a new two story office/warehouse building, going between BCIT and the old Canadian Airlines building I guess. Not the easiest site to access with large trucks.

deasine · #**4751** Posted **Jan 18, 2013, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

Johnny_Aussie, I'm entirely too lazy to do a full comparison, but by my count YVR has the most carriers serving mainland China routes (MU, CA, CZ, 3U, AC) , tied with LAX at least (CA, AA, CZ, UA, MU). Most mainland China carriers for sure (4). Most frequencies I didn't take a stab at, but I imagine it can't be lower than (and probably exceeds) all but LAX and maybe SFO.

It'd be interesting to compare the available capacities to China between these cities and Vancouvers. I'd imagine we get a pretty different picture after that.

teriyaki · #**4752** Posted **Jan 19, 2013, 3:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

It'd be interesting to compare the available capacities to China between these cities and Vancouvers. I'd imagine we get a pretty different picture after that.

I find it pretty impressive to see that we have 4 Chinese airlines serving our humble little "focus city".

With LAX seeing daily 747's and A380's vs our 777's and A330s for most of their Trans-pacific routes. Even at a 1:1 ratio of flights in and out of both cities, correct me if i'm mistaken but I think we'd see a pretty substantial difference between the actual SEAT capacity.

trofirhen · #**4753** Posted **Jan 19, 2013, 11:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by teriyaki

I find it pretty impressive to see that we have 4 Chinese airlines serving our humble little "focus city".

With LAX seeing daily 747's and A380's vs our 777's and A330s for most of their Trans-pacific routes. Even at a 1:1 ratio of flights in and out of both cities, correct me if i'm mistaken but I think we'd see a pretty substantial difference between the actual SEAT capacity.

Very true, but when you compare the population of Metro Vancouver from Lion's Bay to Chilliwack, at 2.3m and the population of the LA Basin at upwards of 18m, I'd say we're doing pretty well.
Now, if we could get Singapore back as a destination, and maybe Bangkok ......

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Johnny Aussie · #**4754** Posted **Jan 21, 2013, 8:38 PM**

Looks like AC won't be reinstating SAN for the summer scheds after all. It was pulled for the winter to operate on a seasonal basis.

On a positive note, YMM will be going double daily and YXS going to 7 daily.

edit: and YYF going to 4 daily.

trofirhen · #**4755** Posted **Jan 21, 2013, 9:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Looks like AC won't be reinstating SAN for the summer scheds after all. It was pulled for the winter to operate on a seasonal basis.

On a positive note, YMM will be going double daily and YXS going to 7 daily.

Will any airline filll the YVR -SAN void left by AC? Seems like an opportunity for Westjet

Johnny Aussie · #**4756** Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 9:56 AM**

For peak summer 2013 schedules KE is upgauging the daily YVR-ICN flight to a 744.

That's a pretty decent increase in capacity.

http://airlineroute.net/2013/01/22/ke-s13update2/

Canadian74 · #**4757** Posted **Jan 22, 2013, 4:02 PM**

2013 will be a very good year for YVR, no? With all the Asia increases, AKL increase and the new MUC flight.

Anyone want to make a complete list of all Asian cities served from YVR with frequencies and aircraft compared with last summer?
I am not familiar with aircraft and frequencies...

PEK - Air Canada/Air China
PVG - Air Canada/China Eastern
CAN - China Southern
CTU - Sichuan Airlines
HKG - Air Canada/Cathay Pacific
TPE - EVA Air/China Airlines
NRT - Air Canada/Japan Airlines
ICN - Air Canada/Korean Air
MNL - Philippine Airlines

Did I miss anything?
Would personally like a DEL flight!

Johnny Aussie · #**4758** Posted **Jan 24, 2013, 7:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Looks like AC won't be reinstating SAN for the summer scheds after all. It was pulled for the winter to operate on a seasonal basis.

On a positive note, YMM will be going double daily and YXS going to 7 daily.

edit: and YYF going to 4 daily.

AND YYD goes to 3 daily from 2... How could I have forgotten Smithers!

Johnny Aussie · #**4759** Posted **Jan 24, 2013, 7:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by Canadian74

2013 will be a very good year for YVR, no? With all the Asia increases, AKL increase and the new MUC flight.

Anyone want to make a complete list of all Asian cities served from YVR with frequencies and aircraft compared with last summer?
I am not familiar with aircraft and frequencies... !

I would hold off a little longer as there still may be more to come.....

Also, EVA Air doesn't usually finalise their summer scheds for a few months anyway.

Johnny Aussie · #**4760** Posted **Jan 24, 2013, 8:08 AM**

DL just reinstated the 3rd daily MSP. It appeared this was being reduced to 2 daily in conjunction with the new daily JFK, which is being moved to a red eye.
The early morning MSP departure is back showing daily CR9.
Sat only service to ATL (757) and DTW (738) as last summer and 2 daily SLC remains mix of CR7 and CR9