CFL in Ottawa: Ottawa RedBlacks

[Capital Shaun]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

RAFTSMEN tabernac!!!

They could sell these at the games: http://www.unibroue.com/en/beers/19/product

[matty14]

I hope the owners read the poll on the Citizen. A heavy majority think it's a joke of a name (89% of about 1800 votes on posting this), just like the Rush was.

Rivermen or Raftsmen.

[migo]

What's in a name? Red (&) Black, White Sox, Red Sox...

How about the Ottawa Rebels, River Rebels, Red Rebels...?

[kilroy]

Originally Posted by migo

What's in a name? Red (&) Black, White Sox, Red Sox...

How about the Ottawa Rebels, River Rebels, Red Rebels...?

Better than Red Blacks, that's for sure.

Rebels was the name of the failed lacrosse team here, don't think that'll happen.

Raiders? There's the Nepean Raiders as a local connection and is no where near as idiotic as Rush or Red Blacks.

Plus, at some point they need to stop leaking suggestions and actually announce their choice. It's seems like they don't have any idea and were almost entirely banking on using the Roughriders name until Sask put the kibosh on that.

[Hybrid247]

I would support the Ottawa Raiders

[kevinbottawa]

I'm beginning to think Jeff Hunt isn't serious about the name "Red Blacks". I think he has another name in the wings that he really wants and he only used "Red Blacks" to piss off the general public so we'll accept the actual name that he wants, saying, "At least it's not as bad as 'Red Blacks'. Either that or he's using the media/general public as his focus group.

[KHOOLE]

Also very politically incorrect in French:

"Les Rouges" = Indians (red skins), also = members of the Liberal party.

"Les Noirs" = negroes (black skin), also negative connotation, as in "film noir"

We have been through this before on this thread and I thought that the consensus was that "Raftsmen" is possibly the very best choice for both sides of the Ottawa and up and down the Valley.

I get the feeling that someone is trying to make money by getting a personal or business patent on a name.

There was a survey made by Jeff Hunt just recently. I know that I wrote in and suggested my choice (Raftsmen) and gave all my reasons why. Was that survey ever made public?

[gjhall]

Originally Posted by kevinbottawa

I'm beginning to think Jeff Hunt isn't serious about the name "Red Blacks". I think he has another name in the wings that he really wants and he only used "Red Blacks" to piss off the general public so we'll accept the actual name that he wants, saying, "At least it's not as bad as 'Red Blacks'. Either that or he's using the media/general public as his focus group.

Sorry, what Koolaid have you been drinking? Why would someone want a lousy name that they have to trick the public into accepting?

[Acajack]

There is a famous book by French author Stendahl called Le Rouge et le Noir.

[spotlight]

I've been sayign for a while now.. the name that makes the most sense for many reasons:

*billingual
*R factor
*Military (which plays the factor of offense and defense)
*local history
*historical colour connection

Ottawa Regiment

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by spotlight

I've been sayign for a while now.. the name that makes the most sense for many reasons:

*billingual
*R factor
*Military (which plays the factor of offense and defense)
*local history
*historical colour connection

Ottawa Regiment

Good suggestion. While not a uniquely Canadian term per se, it is very common in our country's military vocabulary and sometimes not so common in that of others.

[kilroy]

What I've heard and read is that the name is probably going to be something that most people won't immediately like.

To me, this means it's either a term that isn't normally associated with sports teams or one that simply doesn't sound proper on its own.

Rush and Redblacks fit those criteria, so does Regiment.

I'm expecting a name that isn't:

1.) A plural noun.
2.) Used much, if at all, in sports.
3.) Immediately sounds awesome.

Although, let's be totally honest here and call it like it is:

The Ottawa Capital R's.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by kilroy

What I've heard and read is that the name is probably going to be something that most people won't immediately like.
.

It is astonishing that they would do this.

[Hybrid247]

Originally Posted by KHOOLE

Also very politically incorrect in French:

"Les Rouges" = Indians (red skins), also = members of the Liberal party.

"Les Noirs" = negroes (black skin), also negative connotation, as in "film noir"

We have been through this before on this thread and I thought that the consensus was that "Raftsmen" is possibly the very best choice for both sides of the Ottawa and up and down the Valley.

I get the feeling that someone is trying to make money by getting a personal or business patent on a name.

There was a survey made by Jeff Hunt just recently. I know that I wrote in and suggested my choice (Raftsmen) and gave all my reasons why. Was that survey ever made public?

You wouldn't catch me wearing a "Raftsmen" jersey or any other gear for that matter...

[JeffB]

Originally Posted by KHOOLE

We have been through this before on this thread and I thought that the consensus was that "Raftsmen" is possibly the very best choice for both sides of the Ottawa and up and down the Valley.

That may have been a concensus here, but not necessarily anywhere else. Personally, I don't care much for the Raftsmen name, but I suppose I could live with it in the unlikely event it is chosen.

Originally Posted by KHOOLE

There was a survey made by Jeff Hunt just recently. I know that I wrote in and suggested my choice (Raftsmen) and gave all my reasons why. Was that survey ever made public?

That was not a survey, it was more or less a suggestion box. If there were suggestions there that they liked they would do further research and testing on its viability. Or if there was one name that was an extremely popular suggestion (and he was talking about 100's or 1000's or mentions) it would get strong consideration. But Hunt has said in interviews that there was no consensus in the thousands of entries, and nothing really piqued their interest.

[kilroy]

Originally Posted by Acajack

It is astonishing that they would do this.

I don't think so. It's a definite risk, no doubt about it. However, if they pick something that is unique and doesn't drive people away, they have a good potential to create a very distinct brand. There's a huge difference between simply not liking a name and actively hating it. Someone who doesn't like a name may still become a supporter and have the name grow on them. The other is a lost customer.

Basically I think they're using a point of view borrowed from Apple. I can best sum it up by using (stealing?) a quote from Steve Jobs: "Some people say, 'Give customers what they want.' But that's not my approach. Our job is to figure out what they're going to want before they do. I think Henry Ford once said, 'If I'd asked customers what they wanted, they would have told me, "A faster horse!"' People don't know what they want until you show it to them. That's why I never rely on market research. Our task is to read things that are not yet on the page."

The ideal choice is a name that's unique and that the majority of the potential audience will embrace. However, as there doesn't seem to be an obvious candidate (for various reasons), they seem to be looking for one that is unique without driving away potential customers.

The risk OSEG is facing is that Ottawa's population is very conservative (I don't mean politics) and very resistant to out of the box ideas or concepts.

In the end, if they can find a name that is unique without alienating their audience, they'll be fine. But, let's face it, the only real choice was always the Rough Riders. When that was taken out of the mix, everything got... confusing.

[lrt's friend]

I am not keen on Red Blacks, just colours.

The Ottawa Rebels reminds me too much of the southern US.

I like Ottawa Regiment more.

How about Ottawa Rifles?

[m3i6]

I'd suggest Ottawa Repercussion - The recoil of something after impact (Repers for short, loosely based on Grim Reaper) but people might then associate football with violence and deadly body contact.

Also, sounds to close too concussion which is not what they want fans to remember the game for.

[lrt's friend]

The Ottawa Revolution

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by lrt's friend

The Ottawa Revolution

Link with Ottawa?