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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 8:34 PM
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At u of m it depends what building you're in. Some have optional meal plans but yes some are manditory. So its really not unusual for student housing.
Anyone can eat at the residence cafeterias at the U of M.... at least you can at St. Pauls and St. Andrews.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 8:48 PM
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Fortress Developments will be releasing more info on their 80+ million project hopefully in two to three weeks.
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 9:45 PM
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What seems a little odd about the sale of the Downtowner property to a group looking to setup a private student residence is just that -- student residences are normally run by schools, no? Sort of seems like it has a questionable purpose/business plan.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 10:05 PM
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Anyone can eat at the residence cafeterias at the U of M.... at least you can at St. Pauls and St. Andrews.
We were talking about the dorm's having manditory meal plans built into the fees, not the accessability to non-dorm students.....
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 10:21 PM
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I just hope TV's comments weren't about the CP Railyard brownfield redevelopment.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 10:42 PM
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I just hope TV's comments weren't about the CP Railyard brownfield redevelopment.
no way to know till future

coulda been the old canada packers site....

we could keep on speculating not going to get us anywhere so lets just look forward to the ones that survive :
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 11:03 PM
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no way to know till future

coulda been the old canada packers site....
That would be my guess considering the recent announcment of a public/private partnership to redevelop a large parcel in St B.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 11:09 PM
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they were the same.

drew, you are right....the worst part of my job specifically is the number of times great projects fail....i do conceptual design so i am involved at the front end when all the excitement is there....it always sucks when they die, or get built nothing like you wanted....anyone remember the rock and roll museum at the met?....that was one example....i am pretty good at this point at recognizing pretty early which ones stand a chance and which ones are dreamers....i know where to put my heart.

to clear this up a little...i have been working for about a year on what would have been the project of my career.....it was heading into the final phases and got yanked away.....it still may happen at a smaller scale, but i will not be involved personally anymore...which is why i still cant talk about it.....sometimes clients can be pretty heartless....it was a project that would have been a game changer for the city and for me personally....the emotional involvement and number of summer weekends i donated to them kind of upsets me now.....like the worst lap dance of my life.

its more of a personal disappointment than anything...imagine investing yourself emotionally for that long into something that your grand children would be proud of, only to have it pulled from under you at the last moment.

i probably shouldn't have even hinted at it, but it was such an exciting opportunity.
man that sucks. real sorry to hear about that...nothing wrong with hinting at it or anything; you were justified to be excited about the project. It was out of your control what happened, and im sure you'll have another client in the future who will come forth with a development that will eclipse this one.

My impression is Winnipeg is just getting rolling, and given how cities historically develop around the "million" population mark, combined with steady certifiable growth, it wouldn't surprise me to see another "boom" once the current phase of large-scale developments ends.

Many of us understand what its like to have such investment on all sorts of levels into something only to end up disappointed but you no doubt gained some valuable insights into the potential of what could be built, and you no doubt gained some experience that would have not been gained elsewhere.

Hopefully one day you'll be able to share more specific details on this project (if it does indeed completely collapse and you are able to talk about it) since it would be interesting to see what it was. By then though, I'm sure we'll have many a great things around the corner.

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Another fantastic column by TV.

I have been saying the same thing about Kapyong for years now. Hopefully the ridiculous #idlenomore garbage doesn't leave Winnipeg ripped off.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/columnists/marching-to-the-citys-heartbeat-186738591.html
Agree 100% about the Kapyong yards. Its a very important development, hold some very city-defining potential, and I truly hope its done right.

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Fortress Developments will be releasing more info on their 80+ million project hopefully in two to three weeks.
Nice to hear. We got some good stuff to look forward to this year.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 11:18 PM
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no way to know till future

coulda been the old canada packers site....

we could keep on speculating not going to get us anywhere so lets just look forward to the ones that survive :
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That would be my guess considering the recent announcment of a public/private partnership to redevelop a large parcel in St B.
where exactly is the old packers site?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 11:23 PM
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where exactly is the old packers site?
marion its pritty hard to mis

https://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ll=49.878984,-97.086825&spn=0.016842,0.027595&t=h&z=15
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2013, 11:39 PM
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I never knew that. I don't know that area of the city too well, and even though I have spent much time in Saint-Boniface, I am often not that far down Marion.

Thanks 1ajs
     
     
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I never knew that. I don't know that area of the city too well, and even though I have spent much time in Saint-Boniface, I am often not that far down Marion.

Thanks 1ajs

i miss the stock yards office building was nice space to make photographic art of decay...


     
     
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2013, 2:24 AM
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We were talking about the dorm's having manditory meal plans built into the fees, not the accessability to non-dorm students.....
My bad. Somewhere I misinterpreted a sentence and read it as "private cafeteria, only for students to eat at."
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2013, 3:14 AM
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Really can't believe how long the old packing plant sites in St. B have sat vacant, the Swifts site has been vacant since 1979 and the Canada Packers site since 1987. As far as I'm concerned that is where the new stadium should have gone because it is a more central location.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2013, 3:39 AM
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Really can't believe how long the old packing plant sites in St. B have sat vacant, the Swifts site has been vacant since 1979 and the Canada Packers site since 1987. As far as I'm concerned that is where the new stadium should have gone because it is a more central location.
I agree that the packing plant site would have been a better choice than U of M for the new stadium but still think the Westport Festival site was the premier location. With Portage Ave and the Perimeter both near the site it is positioned to quickly move traffic away from the site. The problem there is obviously that it is not very central, but the same is said of the St. B or U of M sites.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2013, 3:46 AM
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Leo Ledohowski was not quite as well connected as he thought when he bought the stock yard land land for a stadium and/or water park.

I expect that he is going to have to do something with it as it must be costing Canad Inn's something to hold it in taxes and financing.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2013, 3:50 AM
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One problem with the stockyard site is, you can almost assume that CP Rail will manage to have one of their long trains to or from Emerson come by just as everybody is leaving an event and block traffic wanting to go west on Marion.

I don't think there is really a way to put a rail underpass or overpass in at the Marion & Archibald intersection.
     
     
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I don't think taxes are too high on vacant land with no buildings.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 15, 2013, 5:01 AM
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It's been so long since I've driven down Marion that I looked at the google satellite photos of the area and noticed that the old Schneider's and East-West packing plants have also been levelled. Hard to believe that Winnipeg once had about six slaughterhouse/packing plants operating at one time.

And for that matter, three major breweries, a couple of steel fabricating facilities, two oil refineries.....

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Old Posted Jan 15, 2013, 5:39 AM
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I just hope TV's comments weren't about the CP Railyard brownfield redevelopment.
skyscraper...new tallest.

would have been....wont be if it survives.
     
     
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