The Great Canadian Skyline Thread! II

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by O-Town Hockey

A similar total for the Ottawa and surrounding region from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Capital_Region_(Canada). It would include the cities that make up Ottawa/Gatineau as well as the surrounding municipalities.

Grand Total: 1 331 410

The link you posted says 1,451,415 for the National Capitol Region. I don't think there is an equivalent for Calgary as the Calgary Region includes places that should be part of the CMA (Okotoks is 18km south of Calgary and isn't in the CMA). Anyway I digress as this is not the thread to discuss population.

Ottawa unfortunately is always overlooked or underestimated because of the silly height restriction (having an 800' tower across from the parliament buildings would be pretty damn ridiculous though), but I've heard it's density keeps pace with Calgary, it's just a lot of 20 storey buildings as opposed to 40 and 50 storey buildings. Definitely need to get to Ottawa though, heard great things about that city. Anyone have some good Ottawa shots to post?

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by thegx

Based on URBAN Area:

Calgary 1,095,000
Edmonton 960,000
Ottawa 933,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_100_largest_urban_areas_in_Canada_by_population

Maybe I'm missing something, but this number is slightly smaller than the population of Calgary city proper.

Do people thing it would be worth it to have a thread dedicated to Canadian city / Provincial populations? This seems to be worth discussing right now, and could be relevant every time Stats Canada releases numbers (as opposed to starting a specific thread each time)

Edit; just read the article, makes sense now as some Calgary suburbs are somewhat isolated.

Also, badass Vancouver picture from the Wikipedia article. Sorry, don't know how to re-size a Wikipedia picture...

[isaidso]

Ottawa, Calgary, and Edmonton are basically cities of the same size. Whether one has a few tens of thousands more than the other is immaterial.

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Also, badass Vancouver picture from the Wikipedia article. Sorry, don't know how to re-size a Wikipedia picture...

Resizing a wiki picture is actually the easiest thing in the world when it's posted with a convenient choice of several different resolutions. When you click on the picture from the main article, it takes you to the picture page, where there are links to various sizes below a preview version of the image. This is 1024 x 681 for example:

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

Ottawa unfortunately is always overlooked or underestimated because of the silly height restriction Definitely need to get to Ottawa though, heard great things about that city.

What's really silly is to underestimate or overlook a city because it has a height restriction. A city with 2-3 200m skyscrapers doesn't automatically make it more substantial than any other city. I've visited cities that bored me to sleep, and yet they had tall skyscrapers.

Ottawa is overlooked though, and based on my experience, this is the case in Western Canada.

[koops65]

Originally Posted by isaidso

Ottawa, Calgary, and Edmonton are basically cities of the same size. Whether one has a few tens of thousands more than the other is immaterial.

Exactly... All 3 are between 1 and 1.5 million. And strangely enough, Calgary has the tallest buildings, Edmonton has the largest "downtown" (in terms of square km's covered by highrises) and Ottawa has the most dense core (number of city blocks completely covered by highrises). Three different cities, 3 different skylines, but yet all are fantastic to view. Let's not fight about this please...
This is my own opinion, from looking at pix, and is not supported by any scientific evidence.

[Razor]

Originally Posted by koops65

Exactly... All 3 are between 1 and 1.5 million. And strangely enough, Calgary has the tallest buildings, Edmonton has the largest "downtown" (in terms of square km's covered by highrises) and Ottawa has the most dense core (number of city blocks completely covered by highrises). Three different cities, 3 different skylines, but yet all are fantastic to view. Let's not fight about this please...
This is my own opinion, from looking at pix, and is not supported by any scientific evidence.

Agreed! people can weigh the same, but carry their weight differently.

First of all,All three cities should have close to the same office space overall, but divied up differently.I'm not trying to be biased here, but I suspect that Ottawa would be the busiest of the three cities though just by virtue of having more towns surrounding the NCA which aren't counted in the metro area, more international traffic, and by Montreal being just down the road. Not that there are people flocking from Montreal to Ottawa on any given day..Surely being part of an 8.0 million person corridor surely results in more traffic.I'm only assuming though and you know what that does?? Now look at me making this "about Ottawa" ha.

Secondly, just touching on what someone said a few pages back (Too lazy to quote) about Calgary being dead after hours, and either they or someone else was calling Montreal and Toronto 24-7 cities..Well I've been downtown in both Montreal and Toronto late at night, and I found for one Yonge street dead as well. Mind you this was pretty late...They are both far from being 24-7, and they too shut down at night..Let's face it, no city in Canada is 24-7 yet anyways.That honours go to NYC..You can hear a pin drop in Ottawa's business district late at night.The last time I was in Montreal it was fairly dead late at night as well, but lemme tell you that chicken breast sammie I found on Ste. Catherine was one of the best I had!..Sorry OT here..Carry on.

[kool maudit]

montreal is pretty good for services in the middle of the night. i mean, you can hail a cab or go to a diner at 4 a.m. downtown or on the plateau. it's not the same as midnight, but not even nyc is.

[losername]

It is a common misconception that NYC is 24-7 city. Living there for almost ten years, I can attest to it being pretty sleepy in most parts on most days of the week from about 2am-6am.

[kool maudit]

it's the 24-hour subway that makes the difference for nyc. that's a big deal.

[travis3000]

Originally Posted by Razor

Agreed! people can weigh the same, but carry their weight differently.

First of all,All three cities should have close to the same office space overall, but divied up differently.I'm not trying to be biased here, but I suspect that Ottawa would be the busiest of the three cities though just by virtue of having more towns surrounding the NCA which aren't counted in the metro area, more international traffic, and by Montreal being just down the road. Not that there are people flocking from Montreal to Ottawa on any given day..Surely being part of an 8.0 million person corridor surely results in more traffic.I'm only assuming though and you know what that does?? Now look at me making this "about Ottawa" ha.

Secondly, just touching on what someone said a few pages back (Too lazy to quote) about Calgary being dead after hours, and either they or someone else was calling Montreal and Toronto 24-7 cities..Well I've been downtown in both Montreal and Toronto late at night, and I found for one Yonge street dead as well. Mind you this was pretty late...They are both far from being 24-7, and they too shut down at night..Let's face it, no city in Canada is 24-7 yet anyways.That honours go to NYC..You can hear a pin drop in Ottawa's business district late at night.The last time I was in Montreal it was fairly dead late at night as well, but lemme tell you that chicken breast sammie I found on Ste. Catherine was one of the best I had!..Sorry OT here..Carry on.

Of course no city compares to NYC. I've been to NYC and that city especially near Times Sq is usually busy all the time but during non tourist times, even this area can get pretty quiet after midnight. But for Canadian standards, Toronto and Montreal have more night and day activity. For instance, I've been to Calgary around 9-10pm at night and the downtown core is relatively quiet compared to Montreal or Toronto at that time. Toronto always has people walking around, even at late hours, as does Montreal. I was in Montreal last summer and many parts of the city were jammed packed even at midnight. You must have went to Toronto at a very rare time, take it from a person who is downtown Toronto on a weekly basis... it's by far the most happening downtown in this country with Montreal just closely coming in at 2nd.

[kool maudit]

i think montreal is busier than toronto after about 1 am. in my experience it is. more cabs, more open deps. slightly easier to find... things.

for various reasons, i have prowled both cities quite extensively in the vice hours.

edit: i am comparing peak areas of both. queen west in toronto, lower st-laurent/st-denis for montreal.

edit 2: toronto looks cooler at those hours though. something about the grim victoriana mixing with the american-style streetlights and towering skyline. it's like battersea meets detroit.

[The_Architect]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

i think montreal is busier than toronto after about 1 am. in my experience it is. more cabs, more open deps. easier to find... things.

If Toronto "deps" (I assume you mean like convenience stores?) sold alcohol there'd probably be more open late at night. Grr. Taxis are still pretty much everywhere at 1. After 2 they start to die down.

And I think it was you who mentioned the 24 hr subway service in New York, that's absolutely true. Having a last train to catch for so many people really clears out the downtown at a certain time.

[SignalHillHiker]

St. John's is a typical sleepy small city at night - with some exceptions. Last call here is 3 a.m., and even then there are after-hours cafes, clubs and the like. So George Street and surrounding areas of Duckworth, New Gower, and Water streets remain very active until at least 4 a.m. But the rest of the city shuts down early. Even the largest malls close at 10 p.m. on weeknights. The after-work rush is completely clear (except for traffic) by 7 p.m. and most of the city looks almost deserted by 11 p.m.

There's always a few people around downtown, though - and we have some absolutely fantastic 24-hour restaurants. Thalamh an Éisc (this is how you say "Newfoundland Irish" in Newfoundland Irish, a now extinct language - in the 2001 census, only 10 Newfoundlanders reported it as their mother tongue) or Celtic Hearth on Water Street is one of the best pubs with one of the best kitchens in the city and it's open 24/7.

[Coldrsx]

Couple of years old, but great shot.


(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2605/4177666600_a82f4e7ea1_z.jpg)


(http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/edmonton-winter-skyline-panorama-rodrigo-de-la-jara.jpg)

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Resizing a wiki picture is actually the easiest thing in the world when it's posted with a convenient choice of several different resolutions. When you click on the picture from the main article, it takes you to the picture page, where there are links to various sizes below a preview version of the image. This is 1024 x 681 for example:

I feel silly now.

[Calgarian]

Originally Posted by Rico Rommheim

What's really silly is to underestimate or overlook a city because it has a height restriction. A city with 2-3 200m skyscrapers doesn't automatically make it more substantial than any other city. I've visited cities that bored me to sleep, and yet they had tall skyscrapers.

Ottawa is overlooked though, and based on my experience, this is the case in Western Canada.

I think a lot of people (skyscraper nerd or not) judge a city's size by it's skyline, so while I agree it's silly, it is understandable.

[Calgarian]

I love how Edmonton's downtown is on top of the hill, makes it very picturesque.

[SignalHillHiker]

Alberta is really kicking *** with its skylines. You have to leap-frog to much larger cities to find comparable and larger skylines in Central Canada.

[kw5150]

Loving the Edmonton Pics.