The Great Canadian Transit Thread

[ssiguy]

Someone from Calgary Transit should go to Toronto and show them how to do LRT right.

As for Ottawa, thanks for the info but I still don't get how they are going to align it from Campus to St.Laurant. I understand that neither the east or west Transitway will enter the downtown but does that also mean the South Transitway from the Airport to Downtown will also need a transfer onto the train?

[eemy]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Someone from Calgary Transit should go to Toronto and show them how to do LRT right.

As for Ottawa, thanks for the info but I still don't get how they are going to align it from Campus to St.Laurant. I understand that neither the east or west Transitway will enter the downtown but does that also mean the South Transitway from the Airport to Downtown will also need a transfer onto the train?

There will be no busways going downtown anymore. If you want to go downtown, you have to transfer to the LRT. Those coming on the SE Transitway (and airport) will transfer at Hurdman.

[Chadillaccc]

Calgary's future, with a comprehensive graph showing the priority of each project. Quite interesting!




Source: http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/373507/calgary-council-embarks-on-8b-transit-plan/



Here's the Southeast to North Central line map.



Source:http://www.lrtincalgary.ca/FutureMap.html

[The_Architect]

I want an elevated metro line..

[Kitchissippi]

Here's a good graphic synopsis of what Ottawa is going to be building in the next 5 years (from the Ottawa Citizen)

[harls]

They have Campus station twice, and 'Maintrnence'

[eemy]

I'll ask it again; what is the point of Cyrville Stn? Remove the station and run the 94 down Cyrville from St. Laurent.

[Allan83]

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[ssiguy]

I don't think Calgary should keep the at-grade LRT segment. I think they should interline the routes thru downtown like they do now by sharing the tunnel. Without the hassle of the lights, traffic, and buses to contend with one single tunnel could handle the capacity no problem.

Even if the 2 corridors eventually run every 4 minutes that is only one train per direction every 2 minutes and considering the tunnel will not be very long and only have a couple underground stations it shouldn't be a problem.

[Coldrsx]

Contract work on new Edmonton LRT could start next year
By Ryan Tumilty
Metro Edmonton
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Supplied City council will be asked to help fund the work of preparing a 30-year contract for the southwest LRT early next year.
Edmonton city councillors can expect a request early in February for $30 million to take the first steps toward building a new LRT line in the city.

The $30 million request will help the city prepare contract documents for the proposed public private partnership (P3) to build the southwest LRT line from downtown to Mill Woods, as well as move utilities that would be in the way of the project.

Details of the request were presented to the LRT governance board, a new advisory committee stacked with business people and other experts, to handle the details of the new project.

http://metronews.ca/news/edmonton/483630/contract-work-on-new-edmonton-lrt-could-start-next-year/

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

I'll ask it again; what is the point of Cyrville Stn? Remove the station and run the 94 down Cyrville from St. Laurent.

Future development area I guess. Note that Cyrville is erroneously marked as Campus on the map - it is one furthest to the right.

[Taeolas]

I love seeing the changes Ottawa is doing. Makes me wish I still lived in the city so I could ride that system.

It'll be a great improvement I'm sure, but I can't imagine how disrupted things will be as they change the transitway over to a rail line; especially the non-underground parts.

[caltrane74]

Hey! I like Ottawa's trainsets! Although, they do look oddly familair, like I've seen them somewhere else before.... hmm.

[Hybrid247]

Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

I'll ask it again; what is the point of Cyrville Stn? Remove the station and run the 94 down Cyrville from St. Laurent.

I think Cyrville can serve as a good site for potential TOD in the near future. Just because it's underserved now doesn't mean we can't change that

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

Someone from Calgary Transit should go to Toronto and show them how to do LRT right.

Toronto has commuter rail. What is needed are better frequencies. That doesn't mean our metro system isn't abysmally puny however, we're past the stage of a metro/commuter rail hybrid.

[Innsertnamehere]

and Toronto will be improving it's Commuter rail greatly in the future. It was announced that the lakeshore lines will finally have half hourly service, and if Metrolinx can get their funding mechanism it will be receiving 15 minute service.

heck, if that happens we will have gotten WELL over 100km of BRT, about 80km of LRT, 28km of Subway, 2 U-Bahn style urban rail lines (Lakeshore east and west), an urban rail link to the airport, multiple GO extensions (plus 3 lines electrified), and insane levels of frequency increases on the GO lines. not bad for what will likely be about a 15 year period!

[caltrane74]

Cannot understate the importance of the electrification of the GO Lines.

Most exciting is the ARL and later electrification of it down the road.

Union Station expansion to 800,000 passagers per day.

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

and Toronto will be improving it's Commuter rail greatly in the future. It was announced that the lakeshore lines will finally have half hourly service, and if Metrolinx can get their funding mechanism it will be receiving 15 minute service.

heck, if that happens we will have gotten WELL over 100km of BRT, about 80km of LRT, 28km of Subway, 2 U-Bahn style urban rail lines (Lakeshore east and west), an urban rail link to the airport, multiple GO extensions (plus 3 lines electrified), and insane levels of frequency increases on the GO lines. not bad for what will likely be about a 15 year period!

2 U-Bahn style urban rail lines? I suspect you mean S-Bahn, and even then, I disagree.

S-Bahn is a metro system that extends a long way from the city centre, not a high frequency commuter rail. The differences being that in the city centre it runs either underground or elevated with multiple distributor stops (rather than just a single downtown terminus), it's 100% electrified with EMUs and level platform loading, and its minimum frequency on individual lines (with are coupled in all but the farthest reaches from the city centre) is about 3/hour which is very low for a metro but still higher than the improved GO will be.

The GO lakeshore lines improvements will be wonderful and a long time in coming, but S-Bahn style they won't be.

[Innsertnamehere]

Well they will be electrified, completely grade seperated, run at 15minute frequencies (4 an hour) the only difference I see is the lack of level platforms .

[Nouvellecosse]

Will they have multiple stops throughout downtown like the subway does? Or still dumping most people at Union?

It would be awesome if there was a GO tunnel along King or Adelaide with stops at University/Simcoe and Yonge. Or even better, a GO downtown loop, but that would be super pricey.