Highways in Canada

[eternallyme]

How much does Chicago's Lake Shore Drive act as a barrier to the lakefront there for comparison?

[Mister F]

Originally Posted by eternallyme

How much does Chicago's Lake Shore Drive act as a barrier to the lakefront there for comparison?

It depends where. North of Grant Park it's much more of a barrier than anything in Toronto. You literally have to walk through tunnels to get to the water, and the waterfront itself is just a concrete path sandwiched between the water and the highway.

[eternallyme]

Originally Posted by Mister F

It depends where. North of Grant Park it's much more of a barrier than anything in Toronto. You literally have to walk through tunnels to get to the water, and the waterfront itself is just a concrete path sandwiched between the water and the highway.

I was just wondering since I was thinking maybe a surface-level or partially depressed 4-lane freeway should be built. Due to the limited size, at least during rush hour, it would need to be HOV-only.

[MTLskyline]

Autoroute 30 is now complete, with the final segment between Vaudreuil-Dorion and Châteauguay opening to traffic yesterday.

I noticed that Google Maps hasn't been updated. How long does that usually take?


http://www.a30express.com/

[leftimage]

I happened to be going to Vaudreuil yesterday so I took my cam along. This is literally within the first hour the A30 was opened ! Here's an integral tour, non-stop drivelapse from around LaPrairie to Vaudreuil.

Enjoy this first look! Watch in HD ;-)

• Video Link

[MTLskyline]

^Interesting video! How long did it take?

[harls]

Originally Posted by MTLskyline

I noticed that Google Maps hasn't been updated. How long does that usually take?

It shouldn't be long.. they recently opened up the entire length of Autoroute 50 and it was active on Google maps right away.

I'm debating whether or not to use the 30 to go to Quebec City this Christmas. After using the A-25 bridge last summer, and the runaround they gave me, I'm hesitant to use a toll bridge now (at least with this bridge, you can pay at a booth..what happened with me was I received a final notice of non payment two months later, and they added a 30 dollar charge. When I explained to them I never got any notice in the mail, they didn't believe me. Apparently I'm not the only one this has happened to..)

[MTLskyline]

I thought this was interesting.

People who commute between Boucherville and Vaudreuil-Dorion will shave between 23 and 31 minutes off their trip, and the area will see economic benefits as it becomes a major transport hub.

In Montreal, it’s estimated 5,000 transport trucks per day and 12,000 private vehicles will be diverted from the island’s congested roadways.

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/Highway+M...+budget/7705623/story.html#ixzz2FFcHD0wD

According to Google, this is currently a 45 min to 1hr trip.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by MTLskyline

I noticed that Google Maps hasn't been updated. How long does that usually take?

Not long. Highway 1 in NB was being updated as the sections opened. It was actually pretty impressive.

A30 looks great and I will definitely use it if i'm driving beyond or through Montreal!

[Metro-One]

Originally Posted by leftimage

I happened to be going to Vaudreuil yesterday so I took my cam along. This is literally within the first hour the A30 was opened ! Here's an integral tour, non-stop drivelapse from around LaPrairie to Vaudreuil.

Enjoy this first look! Watch in HD ;-)

• Video Link

Very nice! Thanks for posting!

2 questions though.

Do you guys in Quebec have all the environmental crazies come out and protest these highway expansions like we do in Vancouver?

Last question, why is it an old style manual tool booth? Why not the new decal / automatic style are using on our projects here in BC?

[sa230e]

Originally Posted by MTLskyline

Autoroute 30 is now complete, with the final segment between Vaudreuil-Dorion and Châteauguay opening to traffic yesterday.

I noticed that Google Maps hasn't been updated. How long does that usually take?


http://www.a30express.com/

I always wondered why A-20 lies between A-40 and A-30. Doesn't that violate the numbering system?

[sonysnob]

A-20 follows the alignment of what was Quebec Hwy 2 through Western Montreal, which probably at least partially explains the designation.

[vid]

I thought it was odd initial numbers (10, 30, 50, etc) south of the river, even ones (20, 40, 60) north of it?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by vid

I thought it was odd initial numbers (10, 30, 50, etc) south of the river, even ones (20, 40, 60) north of it?

I think the original segment of the 30 is the part that goes to Sorel-Tracy, and this is north of the 20. Also there is an older disconnected segment of the 30 near Trois-Rivieres south of the St. Lawrence. This is also north of the 20.

They were supposed to be connected and this was the original plan for the 30. Now this is no longer likely to happen, and the idea of the 30 as a southern bypass of Montreal was not really the original plan for it.

[eemy]

But A-50 runs north of the river from Montreal to Ottawa

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

But A-50 runs north of the river from Montreal to Ottawa

It is well north of the 40.

[eemy]

Originally Posted by Acajack

It is well north of the 40.

Sorry, I meant that in response to vid's post.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by jeremy_haak

Sorry, I meant that in response to vid's post.

Sorry too. I also misread.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by vid

I thought it was odd initial numbers (10, 30, 50, etc) south of the river, even ones (20, 40, 60) north of it?

To address this more directly, the numbering system features odd numbers for north-south autoroutes and even numbers for east-west.

Also the numbers rise in order from west to east and south to north.

The westernmost autoroute is the 5 in Gatineau, and the easternmost is the85 that is being built towards NB in the Bas-St-Laurent.

Likewise the southernmost even numbered autoroute is the 10 in the Eastern Townships.

Also three numbered autoroutes tend to be spurs and branch routes of the main highways numbered below 100.

There are some exceptions.

The numbering scheme is very similar but not quite identical to the Interstates.

[Andy6]

We should do highway numbering schemes in each province.

Manitoba saves 100-series numbers for freeway-ish roads, of which there really aren't any, although 100, 101 and 110 are used for the Winnipeg and Brandon bypasses and supposedly the new semi-freeway in the northwest part of the city will be 190.

At one point after World War II, Manitoba renumbered some of the main north-south routes to match the U.S. Federal Routes of which they were continuations (59, 75, 83 and formerly 29, which was a very short continuation of I-29). This was probably for business and tourism reasons, as creating north-south trade routes has always been a preoccupation in Manitoba. Most of the original low-numbered "Provincial Trunk Highways" (or "P.T.H.") -- 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 and 9 -- radiated in sort of a clockwise order out of Winnipeg. Provincial Roads are secondary highways that are numbered from 200 upward, with different initial digits predominating in various regions (e.g. 3xx in the north). The numbers of some lesser two-digit highways, and a few of the three-digit ones, appear to be combinations of the numbers of the major highways that they connect, or originally connected (e.g. 13 = 1 and 3 and 68 = 6 and 8).