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Originally Posted by pathar_2
Has there actually been anything formally proposed? Or is this just something that everyone expects to happen in the near future based on the universities growth?
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Apparently there's a draft proposal but I haven't seen it. At some point there will be a need for a third residence if UNBSJ aims at becoming less of a commuter-campus and more of an actual campus with a lifestyle and community. Currently it lacks that.
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Originally Posted by Peter_johnns
Rundown south end home owner to student housing: this would happen over time. homeowners would sell or those already renting out apartments would see a huge demand for renting. No one would be displaced. The demand thousands of students would put on the market would be a good thing for anyone living there now.
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But at some point those who currently live in the south end would either get outpriced or their landlords would raise rent and try to garner international university students. The sudden demand for rooms in the south end would reduce the demand for all of the apartments out on University Avenue. I think my point still stands of moving the lower-income from the South End to Millidgeville by doing this.
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Millidgville Campus: Keep the med school there. Perhaps the hospital could incorporate some of the campus buildings as their own facilities. Irving wanted the campus as a Polytechnic institution in 2007. If the second refinery were to ever be back on the table perhaps their interest would come back. Perhaps the Millidgville campus could be owned and operated as a public-private partnership?
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Remember when Irving tried to do that in 2007? Remember all of the protests and people marching against such an institution? There are still pictures around campus of people who protested and it's something the university itself is very proud of.
A common theme of this thread, and something we try to avoid, is not to bank expectations on having big economic projects suddenly fall into our laps. Sorry.
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Originally Posted by Peter_johnns
A start would be to relocate the Business and Arts faculties to the uptown. Arts plays and equal role in the importance to the uptown as business . Countless art galleries, Imperial Theatre. If the Arts faculty was relocated uptown the Paramount would have a useful purpose.
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I absolutely agree that Business should be relocated uptown. However, many of the Arts disciplines have nothing to do with theatres and plays whatsoever (History, English, Political Science, Social Sciences). Mount Allison would be a University that would focus on plays and theatre as they are a Liberal Arts university at heart.
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If this city is serious about truly entering into a renaissance; these steps have to be taken. Any great city has educational institutions as one of the key components to their culture, identity and economy and to their city centres.
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Agreed. Like i've said I have absolutely nothing against the University relocating Uptown...I just don't see it happening in the near future.
One problem I would like to point out is commuting...if business were to relocate uptown there would need to be somewhere for all of these students to park. I know what i'm going to hear...they can take the bus and find other means, but even if
half (and that's generous) of the students did that there would still be a need for quite a bit of parking.
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Sell the campus and rebuild uptown. It is a long term investment that will be worth it in the long run. An urban campus in uptown Saint John would be a draw for people all over, and would change the city completely. The majority or rundown housing in the south end or even perhaps in waterloo village would be student housing! If this endeavor were to be done. It would change the city forever, and the image of Saint John too—for the better!
The first could definitely be the atrocious empty former Bargain Shop building next to King's Square. That's a big building which is also near the Paramount, which is another large building that could be incorporated.
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