Olympic Village & Southeast False Creek Updates Discussion - Page 191

LeftCoaster · #**3801** Posted **Nov 12, 2012, 3:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by easy as pie

i'm really getting freaked out by the low podium trend emerging in this area - if i were archon of vancouver married to a low fsr, i'd rather see consistent midrise with interior courts than intermittent high rise with 2 story podia, forecourts and setbacks sod with grass. it's like sim city, where a computer just endlessly reproduces the same forms.

As far as I can tell the 5 storey podium is facing 1st, which isn't even a major street and should really necessitate a high street wall. I love a good street walls much as the next guy but it's worth noting that the trend in Vancouver has been shorter point towers and larger podiums. I think we're moving in the right direction.

As for 100 block personally I think it looks pretty sharp.

LeftCoaster · #**3802** Posted **Nov 12, 2012, 3:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Vancity

haha. simcity. lol.

sadly, this may be true. vancouver needs to stop designing condo's and apartments that all look the same. omg. it's getting ridiculously boring and uninspiring. surely, an up-and-coming city like vancouver can be more creative in it's architectural designs. and worse yet, people continue to buy buildings. it's almost as if the public approves of these boring structures. learn from NY's buildings. they have, architecturally, something to offer to vancouver, in my opinion. their buildings have class, character, and inspiration.

I know you have tourist glasses on just coming back from NYC but next time you are there you should pay attention to the fact that 95% of the city is made up of similar homogenous residential buildings.

Everyone freaks out on this forum when a standard 10-30 storey building is boring and compares it to amazing examples from other cities, when not noting the fact that every other city on earth has vast swaths of unremarkable residential buildings.

Get upset when a stand-out building is bad, not another 10-30 storey mid market infill building.

johnjimbc · #**3803** Posted **Nov 16, 2012, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by easy as pie

the mind reels taking stock of everything built and considering everything still in the pipes. aside from toronto, there's almost certainly not another city in north america that has seen anything like the change vancouver has over the past decade. it's truly astonish.

I think the closest would be my current home . . . Washington, DC. It might surprise you, but even with the downturn in US housing, DC is still flush with new projects across the city - housing, retail, business and public space development or enhancements. There are even a few Vancouverism touches here and there, some of the buildings (but not all) and some of the renovated public spaces. The Arena Stage, a well-respected local performing arts center, in fact used Bing Thom to design their enlarged performance complex. http://www.arenastage.org/plan-your-visit/the-mead-center/photo-tour/

DC has some of the strictest height restrictions in the world, but as much as critics complain of how boring the architecture is, it also has some of the most livable neighborhoods and walkable (and bikeable - thanks to wide streets in the original city plan) streets of any city in the world.

If anyone ever comes, do yourself a favor and venture from the monument and national mall corridor and check out some of the vibrant villages dotting the city. You'll be surprised.

A decent local blog of projects in DC, as well as the Maryland and Virginia suburbs - http://www.dcmud.blogspot.com/

hollywoodnorth · #**3804** Posted **Nov 17, 2012, 2:31 PM**

the project at Scotia and 2nd has a name and render ..

site link and photo c/o .. http://www.evanliving.com

Jimbo604 · #**3805** Posted **Nov 17, 2012, 7:56 PM**

Vancouver Sun ad today for Pinnacle's The One project says pre-sales begin today: Nov 17th.

Nice aerial view of the location and the Olympic village:
http://livingattheone.ca/location.html

mpatricklee · #**3806** Posted **Nov 19, 2012, 1:41 AM**

I visited The One sales centre yesterday and was told that Pinnacle is in talks to sell the entire building at 1st and Manitoba to a single buyer. Has anyone else heard about this?

sacrifice333 · #**3807** Posted **Nov 19, 2012, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by mpatricklee

I visited The One sales centre yesterday and was told that Pinnacle is in talks to sell the entire building at 1st and Manitoba to a single buyer. Has anyone else heard about this?

As in one person/family to occupy the whole building or one person/corporation to own and rent out the stratified units?

s211 · #**3808** Posted **Nov 19, 2012, 6:37 PM**

Or selling to someone wholesale, who then re-sells retail. Usually only done when the market is in the tank.

Rob Macdonald apparently made a killing doing this in Calgary a few years ago.

mpatricklee · #**3809** Posted **Nov 20, 2012, 5:06 AM**

I don't know. I assumed it is a corporation that is interested in the building, perhaps similar to the interest the Receiver has apparently seen in the market rental buildings in the Village.

hollywoodnorth · #**3810** Posted **Nov 21, 2012, 3:50 AM**

great new pic from Global Air Photos .. http://www.globalairphotos.com/images/bc/vancouver/2012/vch2012_1105.jpg

Joat · #**3811** Posted **Nov 21, 2012, 6:31 AM**

I'm looking forward to when those big empty lots are developed. I.E. Creekside park and the school next to the village.

LeftCoaster · #**3812** Posted **Nov 21, 2012, 3:50 PM**

Ya it will be nice in 10-15 years when we look back at pics like this and say remember when they were big empty lots?

Much like I do when I look at pre-concord pics of false creek.

WarrenC12 · #**3813** Posted **Nov 21, 2012, 4:14 PM**

It certainly does highlight the huge empty lots. No wonder BC Hydro is working overtime on upgrading the capacity for the downtown area...

city-dweller · #**3814** Posted **Nov 21, 2012, 5:45 PM**

Doesn't the current line of development follow the proposed street car alignment from cambie to main and from main to the sky train station?

(Looks like the proposed project info and maps are not available on the new city website)

Also, if you look at this from the city website you will notice on page 2 the development of 1B, 2B, and 3C is currently underway. Any idea when 1A, 3A, or 3B are going to be developed?

Klazu · #**3815** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 1:29 AM**

Such a huge difference from just 5 years ago! And the projects already under way will fill that area even further. Now what we need is that streetcar line.

hanko · #**3816** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 6:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by city-dweller

Doesn't the current line of development follow the proposed street car alignment from cambie to main and from main to the sky train station?

(Looks like the proposed project info and maps are not available on the new city website)

Also, if you look at this from the city website you will notice on page 2 the development of 1B, 2B, and 3C is currently underway. Any idea when 1A, 3A, or 3B are going to be developed?

1A is public land and I guess we won’t see anything on this for at least 10 years or so.

sacrifice333 · #**3817** Posted **Nov 22, 2012, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by hanko

1A is public land and I guess we won’t see anything on this for at least 10 years or so.

I suspect 1A will become more of a story in approx. 5 years, once the rest of the area has been built out. Developing 1A will require solving of some needs/requirements of both CoV and VPD, who both use the area for considerable at-surface parking and/or storage/staging.

3A was purchased from Translink by Concert, IIRC. 3B, I'm not sure if it is also owned by Concert. But this area will likely start pre-sales sometime in 2013 I suspect. No approvals have been granted yet. Expect to see at least 5 buildings, additional park space, and there is talk of an additional Elementary School placeholder on this site.

mpatricklee · #**3818** Posted **Nov 26, 2012, 6:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by sacrifice333

I suspect 1A will become more of a story in approx. 5 years, once the rest of the area has been built out. Developing 1A will require solving of some needs/requirements of both CoV and VPD, who both use the area for considerable at-surface parking and/or storage/staging.

3A was purchased from Translink by Concert, IIRC. 3B, I'm not sure if it is also owned by Concert. But this area will likely start pre-sales sometime in 2013 I suspect. No approvals have been granted yet. Expect to see at least 5 buildings, additional park space, and there is talk of an additional Elementary School placeholder on this site.

sacrifice333, I think you're timeline is about right. According to the latest SEFC Neighbourhood Energy Utility rate report to council, they expect both areas will be developed (ie. with completed buildings connected to the NEU) sometime between 2015 and 2022.

Nice map on page 13 of the report:
http://former.vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20121127/documents/rr3d.pdf

whatnext · #**3819** Posted **Nov 26, 2012, 6:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by s211

Or selling to someone wholesale, who then re-sells retail. Usually only done when the market is in the tank.

Rob Macdonald apparently made a killing doing this in Calgary a few years ago.

Yes indeed. More signs of a severely slowing market.

huenthar · #**3820** Posted **Nov 26, 2012, 7:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by mpatricklee

sacrifice333, I think you're timeline is about right. According to the latest SEFC Neighbourhood Energy Utility rate report to council, they expect both areas will be developed (ie. with completed buildings connected to the NEU) sometime between 2015 and 2022.

Nice map on page 13 of the report:
http://former.vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20121127/documents/rr3d.pdf

Map shows that Maynards block isn't being connected to the utility, is that correct? Are any of the newer buildings along Cambie connected / anything else that isn't on the map?