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[1ajs]

guys theres youngs on william......
theres the chinies market in china town
theres the new nichee commons opening up at euclid and main...
theres
iga
theres dino's on notre dame across from part source
safeway in the village
the market at the forks

[JamieDavid Exchange]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

guys theres youngs on william......
theres the chinies market in china town
theres the new nichee commons opening up at euclid and main...
theres
iga
theres dino's on notre dame across from part source
safeway in the village
the market at the forks

The market at the Forks is useless unless you drive in or take a bus in. Not pedestrian friendly at all.
Nichee Commons is great for the locals in that area
The Safeway in the Village is great for the surrounding residents, Fort Rouge, and River Heights.
The IGA is great for the pedestrian traffic of the surrounding apartments and condos on Assinaboine and Broadway.
I dont know what a Dino's is.... Im assuming a convenience store, but still not servicing the Exchange Districts.

Im sorry, but if Winnipeg wants the Exchange Districts to thrive and really become one of Winnipeg's fastest growing neighborhoods, they need to have influence and get a grocery store in the Exchange. The Exchange has sooo much potential to be as dense as Osborn Village. First.... get a grocery store. Second... get a drug store. Third...... get a liquor Mart (LOL! that would be first on my priority)

D Condos and Heritage Landing are benefiting from that IGA on Broadway. I wouldnt be surprised if one day expanded onto that surface lot next to them and be our first Urban Sobeys.

[headhorse]

the old frat house at 548 Stradbrook where 5468796 has a planned 6/8? unit condo was being demolished today.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

Im sorry, but if Winnipeg wants the Exchange Districts to thrive and really become one of Winnipeg's fastest growing neighborhoods, they need to have influence and get a grocery store in the Exchange. The Exchange has sooo much potential to be as dense as Osborn Village. First.... get a grocery store. Second... get a drug store. Third...... get a liquor Mart (LOL! that would be first on my priority)

Oh yes, lets give the Exchange District... A LIQUOR MART!!! Next thing you know, the place is going to be a ghost-town when all the professionals and middle-class run out the door thanks to the new drug-dealing, stone cold-guzzling, cardboard box neighbors eyeing their wives/girlfriends/escorts.

Also, theres still not enough people yet, to justify a major grocery store, nevermind the space. Unless you want to talk to the city about opening a Sobeys across from the CMHR or bulldozing the numerous heritage buildings for a grocery store, I don't see it happening... especially since in Edmonton, the Sobeys i saw was a main-floor tenant. Maybe at the ALT condos/apartments, but definitely not in the Exchange at that size.

[JamieDavid Exchange]

Originally Posted by armorand93

Oh yes, lets give the Exchange District... A LIQUOR MART!!! Next thing you know, the place is going to be a ghost-town when all the professionals and middle-class run out the door thanks to the new drug-dealing, stone cold-guzzling, cardboard box neighbors eyeing their wives/girlfriends/escorts.

Yeah, cause thats TOTALLY what is happening at the Osborne Village Liquor Mart everytime Ive went there and lived in the area.

The Woodbine, the McLaren, and The Manwin is maybe what you're getting confused with, BECAUSE THAT's a contributing factor to the slow development in the Exchange areas

Urban Sobeys doesnt need the footprint that a normal size Safeway, Superstore, or Sobeys needs. But just as effective.

[rypinion]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

Yeah, cause thats TOTALLY what is happening at the Osborne Village Liquor Mart everytime Ive went there and lived in the area.

The Woodbine, the McLaren, and The Manwin is maybe what you're getting confused with, BECAUSE THAT's a contributing factor to the slow development in the Exchange areas

Frankly, I actually agree with armorand93 to a certain extent. A lot of people consider the Liquor Mart beside Centre Point to be a plague on that area, for instance. It definitely passed through my mind as a potential issue when I read your post (and whenever I consider a Liquor Mart in the main floor of my building as something that would be great).

You can't yet compare the Exchange to Osborne. There is but a small fraction of the amount of people in the Exchange so far.

[JamieDavid Exchange]

Originally Posted by rypinion

Frankly, I actually agree with armorand93 to a certain extent. A lot of people consider the Liquor Mart beside Centre Point to be a plague on that area, for instance. It definitely passed through my mind as a potential issue when I read your post (and whenever I consider a Liquor Mart in the main floor of my building as something that would be great).

You can't yet compare the Exchange to Osborne. There is but a small fraction of the amount of people in the Exchange so far.

I was kinda joking about a liquor mart right in the exchange. The city place and ellice one is close enough.
But again, I don't think its the actual liquor mart being across from Centre Point that is the issue as much as its surrounding location. I feel safe walking around that liquor mart, but I can't say I feel as safe walking by the Giant Tiger. The liquor mart has a security guard making a presence to curb vagrants. I can't say the same for Giant Tiger.

[chrisallard5454]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

I was kinda joking about a liquor mart right in the exchange. The city place and ellice one is close enough.
But again, I don't think its the actual liquor mart being across from Centre Point that is the issue as much as its actual location. I feel safe walking around that liquor mart but i can't say i feel as safe walking by the Giant Tiger. The liquor mart has a security guard making a presence to curb vegrants. I can't say the same for Giant Tiger.

Hmmmm. These "vagrants" must be unusually invasive with you and your personal space then, because I feel perfectly safe at both locations.

[vid]

LCs never have people hanging out around them. They call the cops and shoo people away. The LCBO in Ontario takes safety very seriously so there is usually a little bubble of safety around them, aside from the occasional robbery of the LCBO itself (and those have gotten very uncommon in recent years). The Beer Store is a slightly different story but even then they're not too bad aside from the unsavoury clientele that goes there (you can't deny that Lucky Lager is a much lower class drink than Jack Daniels). I'm not actually sure where beer is sold in Manitoba, Ontario's beer is sold at a monopoly of stores owned by Coors and Labatt, and the LC here can't sell beer larger than six-packs.

The bigger problem with downtown vagrancy in Thunder Bay is places that sell mouthwash and hairspray, like that Giant Tiger. The downtown stores in Thunder Bay hide that stuff, I don't know if Giant Tiger does, I didn't look for it when I was there last June. It's pretty disturbing what people are abusing these days.

And on the topic of grocery stores, Thunder Bay's south end downtown just lost its grocery store. It's a local company and yesterday they announced that they were closing, no reason given. It's quite sad. The north side's downtown still has two grocery stores though.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by rypinion

Frankly, I actually agree with armorand93 to a certain extent. A lot of people consider the Liquor Mart beside Centre Point to be a plague on that area, for instance. It definitely passed through my mind as a potential issue when I read your post (and whenever I consider a Liquor Mart in the main floor of my building as something that would be great).

You can't yet compare the Exchange to Osborne. There is but a small fraction of the amount of people in the Exchange so far.

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

I was kinda joking about a liquor mart right in the exchange. The city place and ellice one is close enough.
But again, I don't think its the actual liquor mart being across from Centre Point that is the issue as much as its surrounding location. I feel safe walking around that liquor mart, but I can't say I feel as safe walking by the Giant Tiger. The liquor mart has a security guard making a presence to curb vagrants. I can't say the same for Giant Tiger.

Well, at least we both agree on something. I've gotten followed and stared down by groups hanging out around Giant Tiger ALL the time, and so has my family cause we go there for shopping trips every so often... reminds me, they touch my little sister or my mom, they're going to end up in the Marlborough windows just across the street...

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

Yeah, cause thats TOTALLY what is happening at the Osborne Village Liquor Mart everytime Ive went there and lived in the area.

The Woodbine, the McLaren, and The Manwin is maybe what you're getting confused with, BECAUSE THAT's a contributing factor to the slow development in the Exchange areas

Osborne Village has an established community of buskers and artistic people out in the daytime, or at night. Lots of people too, with VERY GOOD security. I have never had a problem in Osborne Village during the day, nor the night. Plus the $10 club cover charges, along with the metal bar with bikers (or the metal bar with big guys that don't take crap from anybody, aka the Toad) and highly socialist, looking-after-eachother populace keep most of the riff-raff away. A week or two ago, I was waiting in a bus shack, then these two really cute French-Canadian girls came inside. Not even 30 seconds later, this gangster guy with no two front teeth that smells horrible (I'm not kidding), came in and started hitting on them hardcore. If I wasn't there, he probably would've done worse...

Don't even get me started on the Woodbine... on the day of the CPR railyard discussion w/trueviking, I stopped just outside the Woodbine on the bus before the event. 5pm on a weekday, drunks fighting and yelling while officeworkers trying to feed their families are trying to get home. Did I also mention the drunk that started shit at our table just after trueviking left? Out of all places, I thought that the FP Cafe would be the place I'd LEAST expect to see anyone like that (or have someone put out their cigarette on a plate of food). Reminds me again, why I don't go out alone in Downtown between 6am and 6pm, unless its on a brightly lighted street with pedestrian traffic (Broadway)

The downtown homeless/drunk/beggar crowd has to be dealt with, so that these areas can actually develop. That or better security. Well, that or I can do all my Downtown travelling when its -40, so they'll never be outdoors. In fact, the whole city needs to be dealt with. I'm starting to see these guys at Polo Park and more scaringly, CHARLESWOOD. CHARLESWOOD. The most suburban place I can possibly think of. Maybe then, along with a grocery store and developers making buildings for rent, not for profit, then we can see this part of the city come alive.

Before anyone calls me out on this post though, I'd like to mention that I'm Metis myself, working-class, mostly poor and I've had alot of nasty run-ins with these guys before... just saying.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

The market at the Forks is useless unless you drive in or take a bus in. Not pedestrian friendly at all.
Nichee Commons is great for the locals in that area
The Safeway in the Village is great for the surrounding residents, Fort Rouge, and River Heights.
The IGA is great for the pedestrian traffic of the surrounding apartments and condos on Assinaboine and Broadway.
I dont know what a Dino's is.... Im assuming a convenience store, but still not servicing the Exchange Districts.

Im sorry, but if Winnipeg wants the Exchange Districts to thrive and really become one of Winnipeg's fastest growing neighborhoods, they need to have influence and get a grocery store in the Exchange. The Exchange has sooo much potential to be as dense as Osborn Village. First.... get a grocery store. Second... get a drug store. Third...... get a liquor Mart (LOL! that would be first on my priority)

D Condos and Heritage Landing are benefiting from that IGA on Broadway. I wouldnt be surprised if one day expanded onto that surface lot next to them and be our first Urban Sobeys.

u dunno what dinos is?? really? go check it out
on notre dame across from part source more then a convience store....
https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=Dino's+Gro...Winnipeg,+Division+No.+11,+Manitoba&z=16

o and i walk to all those places i mentioned from point douglas.......... i gues i am just outa the norm and live in a collective were we love to walk

[1ajs]

people complaining about the woodbine. slowly but surly the hipsters are taking it over... mark my words...

wood make the perfect location for a new low pub.............. theres people pushing for this see what happens

[JamieDavid Exchange]

Originally Posted by 1ajs

people complaining about the woodbine. slowly but surly the hipsters are taking it over... mark my words...

wood make the perfect location for a new low pub.............. theres people pushing for this see what happens

Actually, if I remember correctly, I remember reading in the FP about the government purchasing these type of run down hotels and I think the Woodbine was one of them along with the one on Gary just south of Portage.

[CoryB]

The government definitely has an interest in purchasing all downtown hotels that are more interesting in serving cheap alcohol than offering expensive rooms for rent. That said, the owners of those same properties find that it is a profitable business to be in so there is a not a lot of interest in selling.

As for the LC in the Exchange, the corner of Main and Market used to have just such a store. From what I recall it was closed as it had a larger negative impact than the Ellice store, quite possibly since it was highly visible and right next to the Concert Hall where the WSO plays. For that reason I really doubt that they will be an LC in that area for some time to come.

Edit: I almost forgot about the Winnipeg Square location which was closed too. Again, that would seem to be on the edge of the target area. Not sure why that one was closed.

[h0twired]

Originally Posted by lilwayne

finally an update on the bond tower project

http://www.journalofcommerce.com/cgi-bin...211d1e&projectid=9164380&region=prairies

Note: Preliminary planning is ongoing. Owner is seeking tenants. Working drawings schedules will be finalized early Spring 2013 pending occupancy. Schedules for sub trade tender and construction are undetermined.

Project: proposed construction of an 11-storey office condominium complex.

That link is for the 62m condo project.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by CoryB

The government definitely has an interest in purchasing all downtown hotels that are more interesting in serving cheap alcohol than offering expensive rooms for rent. That said, the owners of those same properties find that it is a profitable business to be in so there is a not a lot of interest in selling.

The St Regis is likely to be the first example of this.

[marlo]

Originally Posted by headhorse

the old frat house at 548 Stradbrook where 5468796 has a planned 6/8? unit condo was being demolished today.

There is an open house to share the project with the neighbours.
Wednesday, Oct 24
4:30pm-8:00pm
Crescent Fort Rouge United Church
525 Wardlaw Ave.

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by Biff

The St Regis is likely to be the first example of this.

The problem with shutting down venues like the St Regis is simply closing them does not solve the underlying issues and really just causes them to move elsewhere. I have heard people comment that the simlar plan to address the problems on North Main pushed the issues south of Portage to places like the St Regis. If those places are closed where will the problem move to next?

[JamieDavid Exchange]

To get back on the subject of Downtown grocery tenants.... CBC news last night reported a rumor that this building, on Portage between Fort and Gary, can house a grocery tenant in the basement.

Any thoughts, comments, or facts out there about this idea?

[Donovanf]

Originally Posted by Biff

The St Regis is likely to be the first example of this.

I keep on hearing rumours about this, especially from higher ups. But never anything concrete. Only that they want to get rid of it, no details.