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Old Posted Oct 11, 2012, 2:44 AM
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Does anybody have any clue what is happening with those townhouses along Lancaster Avenue by Cedar Hill Cemetery?

It seems like that strip of houses has been under construction for at least 7 or 8 years. First they built the foundations, then 2 years later built the frames on a few of the foundations, then 2 years later they finally finished one of the units. I don't think there has been any movement on them in at least 3 years... the insulation and wood has clearly been beaten up due to extended exposure to the elements... Do they keep running out of money or what?

That whole lot between Lancaster and Prince Street... What an eyesore... finish them or tear them down and plant some grass. Lawd.
That is the Rockingstone that Erick mentioned in an earlier post. Apparently work there has resumed.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2012, 2:47 AM
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RE: townhouses along Lancaster Avenue by Cedar Hill Cemetery.
Walked by there the other day, I had noticed a few weeks ago that work had resumed looks like only like 1-2 contractors maybe on the jobsite, and there is also now signs up saying "for sale" or "lease"

I'll try and remember to grab a photo next time I'm at Olsens unless someone else beats me to it.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2012, 10:58 AM
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Yes, I can be a bitch.

I never blamed you for Saint John's debt, though. That would have been ludicrous. I have been, however, trying to convey that the current speed of change is not outrunning the pursuing bear of debt. Not even close.

And I must say that discussing any Canadian problems is not done on my part in order for me to derive any form of pleasure. Absolutely not.

In fact, I'm scared to death that this unqiue province is not going to pull through because change, as you remind us of how long a time it may require, only happens when there is a change in behaviour from the voters, which impacts the region's politics. I do not see this happening yet, and neither do progressive New Brunswickers.

Only the very basic of implimentations are being executed throughout New Brunswick in terms of sustainability -- things the rest of the country has put in place decades ago. Even public transit is still not widely available here...

I'm certainly not negative most of the time. Not even half of the time. My posting history clearly shows this.

I would say I'm negative during a strong minority of my time on this forum, mostly due to my debating of forumers who cling to their own mythologies about property taxes -- about federal equalisation payments -- about urban sprawl -- about climate change -- about francophones -- about municipal reputations, etc...

I honestly cannot bring myself to pretend being positive. I cannot talk about mundane retail updates in great lengths and go overkill with the smilies, like MonctonRad.

My positivity, as my posting history shows, is expressed when forumers are talking about progress and hypotheticals using different ideas. The Atlantic Canada section may have received a disproportionate amount of my negative posts, perhaps because progress (as in shovels in the ground) of core developments isn't occuring here yet -- but on the Canada page I'm usually thrilled with what cities in Central and Western Canada are doing!

I do not mock New Brunswick and PEI on the Canada page. I'm rooting for these two provinces. New Brunswick in particular I'm proud of because of its bilingualism and rich spectrum of anglophone and francophone cultures.

In that regard, I wish Canada were more like New Brunswick.
Things will turn positive soon in SJ when the potash processing facility is announced. Access to potash, a port location, cheap energy and available labour actually makes a nice recipe for that kind of development. I hear it will be 800 jobs - fingers crossed.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2012, 12:58 PM
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At this point, perhaps it is the time to think outside the box and stop waiting for the next big thing that would spur growth for the next two years and start to put the emphasis on small and medium businesses that will create stability.
+1. Part of the issue in Saint John is that there is one massive industrial employer. It's not necessarily in Irving's best interest to be entrepreneurial, it's in their best interest to look after their core business and their core assets. It doesn't help that Irving sometimes buys small businesses that do work for them. Instead of small businesses growing and innovating, they're added to the Irving corporation. Works fine for Irving, maybe not so much for Saint John.

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On side note, I just bought a house in the inner city and the market is literally flooded by houses. There are about 12 houses per 1000 people available which is one of the highest in the country. It maybe an indication that some of the people who moved back and bought a house between 2006 and 2009 during the peak of the boom on the hope of the positive economic forecast will materialized are packing and leaving to go out West. There is obviously an out migration that needs to be taken seriously.
I live on Orange Street and there are at least half a dozen big houses for sale - most with apartments in them. The place I live in is huge, beautiful and well kept, with 3 units, one owner occupied. It sold for under $400,000. A comparable place in Halifax is likely a million dollar home. Affordability is great here, but in a lot of ways it just represents a lack of demand.

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A lack of available jobs and industries, concurrent with a city that has gone into debt building a massive, financially unsustainable, suburban framework that is unmarketable to today's young working demographics demanding urbanised living options, means that the average age of Saint Johners will increase with its unemployment rate and municipal debt.

Costs for products and services will continue climbing, as consumer spending drops, which translates into decreased corporate investments.

And the cycle continues.

Saint John = a bigger example of northern New Brunswick. Immediate political action is necessary to change course. For Christ's sake: please commit to a stronger pace of inward urbanism; please reform your tax system so that even the suburbs are paying their fair share. It is the least they can do after draining SJ's infrastructure budget, which is now maintained by federal equalisation payments (people not living in New Brunswick).
Blaming the city's fiscal problems entirely on suburban sprawl and associated infrastructure misses some other large fiscal issues. The pension fund deficit is THE big fiscal issue right now: most of the immediate service cuts have been to make up for the pension shortfall, which I believe is around $190 million (someone correct me if I'm wrong). The overall slow economy (a problem for decades) is also a big issue: this is not a rich city, and there is very little population growth in the entire region. It's not surprising that housing prices are low across the board, which is a pretty big problem when most revenue comes from property tax. Moncton is at least as sprawly as Saint John but their fiscal situation is miles better.

And it's far from easy to commit to a quicker pace of urban development. Restrict suburban development in Saint John and a lot of it will go to Rothesay, Quispamsis, or Grand-Bay Westfield, not Uptown or Lower West. Individual home buyers aren't necessarily binary (i.e. strictly suburban or strictly urban) but they don't just live in the city because it makes more sense for the city. The market in most of Atlantic Canada is primarily suburban or low density urban. That won't change with new municipal plans, or zoning by-laws, or with tax reform. You can change how the city grows but the government can't magically make more people live downtown. A lot of the suburban infrastructure built in Saint John was for an anticipated population boom that never materialized: we planned for the growth and it simply didn't happen, or happened in the valley instead. I see no reason why the same thing couldn't happen if we decide to repopulate Uptown at a quicker pace: lots of plans, not a lot of growth and development.

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Old Posted Oct 11, 2012, 3:13 PM
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Just snapped a few (very crappy) pics from the car...

Work continues on construction of west side Kent store.




The townhouses on Lancaster Avenue that are taking longer to construct than The Great Pyramid:




View from Prince Street:


It's a miracle! But really though, would anybody want to buy them after they've sat there unfinished for so long? As a "non-construction" person, I'd think that there would be potential mould problems after sitting there with insulation exposed to the elements and garbage bags over the holes where windows should be, among other things.

Looks like they're asking $250k for a 2bdrm
http://www.realtor.ca/PropertyDetails.aspx?&PropertyId=12483046&PidKey=-2023477451
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2012, 5:25 PM
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Parking Garage at Harbour Station


It's so pretty, isn't it?

One thing I would be interested in hearing is whether or not this garage will be made available for events at Harbour Station (Sea Dogs, Concerts, etc.).

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Old Posted Oct 11, 2012, 10:19 PM
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One thing I would be interested in hearing is whether or not this garage will be made available for events at Harbour Station (Sea Dogs, Concerts, etc.).
That would be interesting. I'm sure the garage would be largely empty in the evenings so I don't see why it couldn't be put to use.

Parking at Harbour Station is pretty rough... do they still use Long Warf as an overflow lot?
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2012, 10:29 PM
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That would be interesting. I'm sure the garage would be largely empty in the evenings so I don't see why it couldn't be put to use.

Parking at Harbour Station is pretty rough... do they still use Long Warf as an overflow lot?
Arenas shouldn't even have surface parking. Look at the metro centre or mile one stadium. They do just fine relying on transit and other sources. Its pretty odd to have an arena as close to downtown as harbour station and have that much surface parking.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2012, 12:08 AM
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Things will turn positive soon in SJ when the potash processing facility is announced. Access to potash, a port location, cheap energy and available labour actually makes a nice recipe for that kind of development. I hear it will be 800 jobs - fingers crossed.
The potash processing facility will have a lot of spin off projects related to it. Potash Facilities require an abundence of Natural gas to operate
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2012, 12:40 AM
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Long Wharf is still used for Sea Dogs games and concerts yes. That's generally where I park. I certainly agree that there is too much surface parking at Harbour Station as there is and (if used properly) this parking garage should definitely alleviate some of problems. If the Fortress of Vengeance and Peel Plaza are being tied in to the Pedway system it should be possible to tie in the parking garage as well.

If it is used for events then I would have no problem with developing the parking lot at Long Wharf. Perhaps the electrical station there could be removed as well.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2012, 2:38 AM
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Browsing through weekly flyers starting tomorrow, Insert advertizing Walmart West Side Lancaster Mall, Grand Opening tomorrow, Oct 12th, 8am more activities on Saturday.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2012, 11:33 PM
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Yup, new Lancaster Mall Walmart opened today.


I'm concerned about the parking situation... The Lancaster Mall parking lot is a nightmare as it is, and the Walmart has it pushed to the limit. Combined with all the traffic from having busses driving directly through the heart of the beast, it's all a big recipe for disaster.


I had fears before it even opened, when just employee cars filled up the entire front lot more than Zellers ever did.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2012, 4:40 AM
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Thought some might be interested in the panoramas I created from various location around Saint John showing the skyline. These are high resolution panoramas so zoom in to see all the detail. Best viewed on a PC or mobile device with Flash.

http://photocreations.ca/saintjohn/


I have shot several others that I am still processing and I have plans of updating some of the older ones.

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Old Posted Oct 13, 2012, 10:24 AM
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Quispamsis News

I happend to find out yesterday that the big vacant piece of land on Millenium Dr across from the new RV place will house Quispamsis's first Home Hardware. Look out Kent!
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2012, 10:45 AM
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Nice pics Jim, that 360 is awesome. Should have a link to it in the main Canada thread under Skylines for cities under 1,000,000.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2012, 12:17 PM
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Very nice pics, Jim. Keep up the great work....
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I happend to find out yesterday that the big vacant piece of land on Millenium Dr across from the new RV place will house Quispamsis's first Home Hardware. Look out Kent!
That's great news! Hopefully all those empty lots will start to develop a bit faster now, I can't believe how long it's taking.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2012, 1:38 PM
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Nice Pics Jim!!!

As for the Walmart Parking at Lancaster mall, I stopped in there this morning (8am) to check out the store before it got tooo busy.

One thing I did notice that Staff must have been told to park in the area across from Blockbuster (where the bus stop use to be) right near Fairville Blvd as there was a good 15 cars or so there, which isn't the norm.

asside from that, the store looks amazing, won't be shopping at the east side one anymore even if I am out there for costco and such.

Now we just need a movie theater and we'll be set.
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Old Posted Oct 14, 2012, 12:58 PM
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So it looks like Apple got tired of fixing my bug reports on their crappy new Maps software and decided to replace the Saint John River with a lake. The river comes back about halfway through Grand Bay-Westfield.

(p.s. Apple, the "downtown" and "Trinity Royal" labels are still in the wrong place).


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Old Posted Oct 14, 2012, 3:54 PM
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I happend to find out yesterday that the big vacant piece of land on Millenium Dr across from the new RV place will house Quispamsis's first Home Hardware. Look out Kent!
Whereas Kent is opening on the West side and is going to put Home Hardware/Beaver Lumber out of business real quick.
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