Winnipeg Construction - Page 279

1ajs · #**5561** Posted **Oct 8, 2012, 2:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

There is fencing around the lot just south of the St Regis and it looks like the parking lot is being torn up... anyone know what's going on?

i think they're just redoing their lot?

Reed Solomon · #**5562** Posted **Oct 8, 2012, 9:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

Update on Exchange Facelift

I don't care for how it looks in the picture.. hopefully it looks better in real life.

armorand93 · #**5563** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 1:21 AM**

http://winnipeg.ca/clkdmis/ViewDoc.asp?DocId=12177&SectionId=&InitUrl=

- Plan Approval for a Target Store - 1465 Maroons Road
- Plan Approval for a Unicity SportChek
• The applicant intends to develop a new 20,000 square foot CRU joining the north end of
the existing commercial retail units located on the west side of the Unicity Mall property.
• There will also be an accessible pedestrian crosswalk connecting the Knox Street walkway
with the Unicity Mall development.
- Rezoning @ 440 Collegiate Street to low-density infill housing

http://winnipeg.ca/clkdmis/ViewDoc.asp?DocId=12171&SectionId=&InitUrl=

- Plan Approval - Yards at Fort Rouge Phase 1A and 1B

http://winnipeg.ca/clkdmis/ViewDoc.asp?DocId=12176&SectionId=&InitUrl=
- Subdivision and Rezoning - Proposed Lot 26 of DASSF 501/2012, West of Plessis Road, North of Camiel Sys Street - DASZ 18/2012
• If the recommendations of the Urban Planning Division are concurred in, the land will be
rezoned to RMF-S and PR1 as proposed.
(also refer to page 20 of the report, maps and diagrams enclosed)

http://winnipeg.ca/clkdmis/ViewDoc.asp?DocId=12172&SectionId=&InitUrl=
- Exhibit 14 - Waverley West Transit Map
Bridgwater Centre to become small Transit terminal, from the looks of it. Feeders and routes to Kenaston both converge there.

headhorse · #**5564** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 3:08 PM**

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Buyers not biting downtown
Veritas, M2 Engineering find condo market tough

By: Murray McNeill

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/buyers-not-biting-downtown-173241791.html

The H2O project is awful in every way, I'm not surprised it's not selling. bad architecture, bad site design, bad marketing, bad website.

rrskylar · #**5565** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/buyers-not-biting-downtown-173241791.html

The H2O project is awful in every way, I'm not surprised it's not selling. bad architecture, bad site design, bad marketing, bad website.

How about cheaply built crap, oops did I say that.

Walk around the area at night, do you feel safe? Would you invest in an unsafe area? I'll get slammed on this one but it's pretty hard to argue against the area being unsafe and undesirable to invest in.

Shinook · #**5566** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/buyers-not-biting-downtown-173241791.html

The H2O project is awful in every way, I'm not surprised it's not selling. bad architecture, bad site design, bad marketing, bad website.

Do you have a link to the website?

rypinion · #**5567** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Shinook

Do you have a link to the website?

http://h2owaterfront.com/

trueviking · #**5568** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 4:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/buyers-not-biting-downtown-173241791.html

The H2O project is awful in every way, I'm not surprised it's not selling. bad architecture, bad site design, bad marketing, bad website.

....no parking...no display suite....iffy location...iffy design...wood frame.

the headline makes it sound like the condo market is drying up downtown, but if you read it, its just that crappy one.

edit...brutal web site.

i'd rather live in the flying saucer.

cheswick · #**5569** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 4:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/buyers-not-biting-downtown-173241791.html

The H2O project is awful in every way, I'm not surprised it's not selling. bad architecture, bad site design, bad marketing, bad website.

Can't argue about the bad marketing. About 6 months ago my wife and I were still looking for a place. TRied findign any info on this project was next to impossible. Came across one website and emailed the link (which was to the listing agent). They responded back in a somewhat angry tone saying that that website wasn't affiliated with the project and was upset they kept getting emails through it. Bizarre. They said they would put us on an email list when updated actual updates were available. Have yet to get any emails.

We did go check out the site last weekend. They were initially advertising it as a great value alternative for Waterfront. Didn't personally see the value in it when compared to mysky. About the same price per square footage in a worse area on waterfront.

The article says most get a view of the river and provencher. Not really accurate. The two that have sold are the same unit on different floors. Which have a great view of the river. The remaining units either have a great view that will be blocked once the second phase is completed, have a great view of the somewhat sketchy area to the back or a great view of the steel company next door (that im told is up for sale and may become a further residential project).

cheswick · #**5570** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 4:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by trueviking

....no parking...no display suite....iffy location...iffy design...wood frame.

the headline makes it sound like the condo market is drying up downtown, but if you read it, its just that crappy one.

edit...brutal web site.

i'd rather live in the flying saucer.

The article is referring to two seperate projects. H20 has outdoor parking. The hertitage building conversion has no parking which they point to as a reason it being a tough sell.

roccerfeller · #**5571** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 5:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by headhorse

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/business/buyers-not-biting-downtown-173241791.html

The H2O project is awful in every way, I'm not surprised it's not selling. bad architecture, bad site design, bad marketing, bad website.

What a misleading article headline...the h20 project is a whole league below other condo developments in the area, and not reflective of the general demand

An investor could still purchase a condo and get a tenant there (which is oddly mentioned in the article) but who would want to purchase those condos at those prices when there are far more attractive alternatives with more amenities?

rrskylar · #**5572** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by roccerfeller

What a misleading article headline...the h20 project is a whole league below other condo developments in the area, and not reflective of the general demand

An investor could still purchase a condo and get a tenant there (which is oddly mentioned in the article) but who would want to purchase those condos at those prices when there are far more attractive alternatives with more amenities?

bang on.

rypinion · #**5573** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by rrskylar

bang on.

Yep. H20 is M2 Engineering's attempt to build a transcona condo (what he's used to) downtown. Not going to fly as condos, but hopefully can have some success as rentals.

rrskylar · #**5574** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 6:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by rypinion

Yep. H20 is M2 Engineering's attempt to build a transcona condo (what he's used to) downtown. Not going to fly as condos, but hopefully can have some success as rentals.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the M2 "guy" used to post here?

chrisallard5454 · #**5575** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 6:09 PM**

Also speaking of that article, why is it so hard for Crystal to get a permit for their site? I don't understand that. It has to be pretty bad when the developer is going to go ahead with construction despite no permit because he can't wait for them any more. Have they not been trying to get this thing going for upwards of 3-4 years now? It isn't exactly as if it is a surprise being handed to the city.

drew · #**5576** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 6:14 PM**

^ this is the rule, rather than the exception for new projects in Winnipeg. Usually you need to get a foundation only permit going early, just to get in the ground around the time you have planned.

That being said, who knows if this developer had submitted their paperwork in a timely fashion.

Bdog · #**5577** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 6:18 PM**

^Katz, when elected 8 years ago, said he was going to cut red tape for developers, in terms of permits and streamlining the process. How has he fared? Well, I guess the red tape has been cut if you're Shindico, Fairweather, or other buddies

Mininari · #**5578** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 6:18 PM**

Disappointing read about the condo sales... again, not that the building isn't selling, but just how the whole downtown market is being cast. It also sounds like a little media-based pressure on Qualico / Sunstone to get that 450 stall parkade U/C ASAP.

Sounds like there could be a nice communal relationship between the condos U/C in the East Exchange along with some kind of grocery store. I don't think the area is ready for anything high-end per se, but something along the lines of a small Sobeys would be a great start. Perhaps a mixed-use building on one of the parking lots with ground-level grocery, and 4-5 levels of condos above?

On another interesting note, its time for the U of W to step aside for a moment on the new building announcements: The official groundbreaking for the University of Manitoba Athletic Expansion (new gym, indoor running track, etc) is this Thursday. 2-day gym pass for all in attendance... might be worth dropping by

http://myuminfo.umanitoba.ca/index.asp?sec=75&too=200&dat=10/11/2012&sta=0&wee=2&eve=8&epa=56650

chrisallard5454 · #**5579** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 6:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mininari

Disappointing read about the condo sales... again, not that the building isn't selling, but just how the whole downtown market is being cast. It also sounds like a little media-based pressure on Qualico / Sunstone to get that 450 stall parkade U/C ASAP.

On another interesting note, its time for the U of W to step aside for a moment on the new building announcements: The official groundbreaking for the University of Manitoba Athletic Expansion (new gym, indoor running track, etc) is this Thursday. 2-day gym pass for all in attendance... might be worth dropping by

http://myuminfo.umanitoba.ca/index.asp?sec=75&too=200&dat=10/11/2012&sta=0&wee=2&eve=8&epa=56650

Great to hear. Which lot is this going to be built on Campus? I love how the UofM feels like its own little town, surrounded by the city. It is very cool.

Mininari · #**5580** Posted **Oct 9, 2012, 6:28 PM**

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Great to hear. Which lot is this going to be built on Campus?

Its being built over top of X Lot. X and T lots are closed as of today.
X lot will mostly be restored as under-building parking when the project is done.

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Originally Posted by chrisallard5454

I love how the UofM feels like its own little town, surrounded by the city. It is very cool.

Unfortunately its presently a town with very few residents relative to its size. There needs to be more housing on campus, market and non-market. (as well as more food options, but thats a different thread).

But change is coming... wait until they get started on the golf course redevelopment... I think we should all have high expectations for this.