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Old Posted Sep 24, 2012, 9:28 PM
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Tega Developments has applied for rezoning for 32 storey condo at 111 Parkdale (@ Burnside). Same Tega who wanted 36 storeys on Parkdale Pk.
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Tega Developments has applied for rezoning for 32 storey condo at 111 Parkdale (@ Burnside). Same Tega who wanted 36 storeys on Parkdale Pk.
I guess that's next to the 99 Parkdale development meaning Urbandale won't be building twin towers like they were showing in their documents.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2012, 11:19 PM
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I hope they don't cap it at 28 storeys so it ends up being the same height as the other approved/proposed buildings. Some variety in height among the new buildings would be nice.
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Geez. Tega is bound and determined to build a tall building.

That stretch of parkdale could handle two tall buildings (visually and traffic-wise), but three seems to be pushing it. Read the transportation report attached to the 159 Parkdale application and it shows the intersection of Parkdale and Scott is already at capacity or exceeding capacity at peak periods. Now add the two Parkdale towers that we know of, plus this. I'm not sure how that road can handle any more, especially when you think there will be 1,000 units added through the (eventual) Tunney's redevelopment.

Oh...and there's NOWHERE to buy groceries without using a car! Much like the up and coming Dow's Lake/Preston area, I should add.

If you want to cut down on off-peak traffic, build a damn grocery store.
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2012, 11:32 PM
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That's the little bit of problem for sure lack of grocery stores. There's the small Metro on Richmond Road near Island Park, the RCS at Richmond and Kirkwood and that's pretty much it in a surrounding of 2 km or less. Hopefully, maybe in the future in the Bayview area.

Might be a similar problem for the Preston area
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Closest thing to Preston and Carling is the Food Basics at Carling and Kirkwood. Or the Giant Tiger on Wellington in Hintonburg, which I shopped at regularly out of necessity when I lived on Champagne. That area is also next to a government campus just like Tunney's. If you wanted so much as a Coke or a pack of cigarettes, a bus ticket, a loaf of bread, booze, or gum after 5p.m., you were out of luck. Ridiculous thinking they're going to put 1-2,000 units there without the bare essentials.

Nobody is going to eat at a pricey Italian restaurant every night. What will they do? Get in their car and drive. Same for Parkdale. Amenities dead zone.
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With all the Shoppers Drug Marts and Starbucks, you would think someone would be original and take in a grocery store.

I think Tribeca will have the only condo retail space occupied by a grocery store. Hopefully, Claridge continues this trend; someone has to do it.
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Yes, and to think that that downtown condo/grocery store/(?)daycare(?) was opposed by the always forward-thinking parking lot protector, Diane Holmes, who stated Metcalfe would be jammed by (I believe) 6-7 delivery trucks a day, turning onto Nepean.

But having hundreds of condo dwellers get in their cars to find food is fine if you achieve your goal of making a building slightly shorter.
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That 159 Parkdale condo shows a full ground floor of retail now - I have to imagine most or some of it would be food.
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I guess that's next to the 99 Parkdale development meaning Urbandale won't be building twin towers like they were showing in their documents.
Hobin was very up front that another developer, not Urbandale, owned the lots south of 99Parkdale and he was showing what it would look like if they were approved for the same scale of building that he had drawn for Urbandale at 99. It was never a proposal for twin towers, just an illustration of what it would look like using the same silhouette for simplicity's sake. I'd been hearing rumours that whoever owned Parkdale at Burnside was going to "shock" us with extra height, and was fully expecting whoever it was to try and one up Claridge's Icon proposal, but now that we know it's Tega, it's shocking at any height (to borrow a line from Nader)

Here's the announcement (warning?) to neighbours from the City:
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A completed Zoning By-Law Amendment application has been submitted for 111, 115, 121 Parkdale Avenue, and 71 Burnside Avenue. You will receive formal circulation for this application in the near future.
 
Site Location: 
The subject site, municipally known as 111, 115, and 121 Parkdale Avenue and 71 Burnside Avenue, is located at the northeast corner of Parkdale Avenue and Burnside Avenue, to the north of Scott Street, and south of the Ottawa River Parkway, in Kitchissippi Ward (Ward 15).
 
Description of Site and Surroundings:
The property has a total area of 1, 373.5 square metres, a lot frontage of 46 metres on Parkdale Avenue, and a lot frontage of 30 metres on Burnside Avenue.  The property backs onto a City lane.  The site currently holds two low-rise apartment buildings and two single-family dwellings.
 
The site is surrounded by a mixture of uses including low-rise to high-rise residential in the neighbourhood to the east, low-rise residential to the immediate north with high-rise residential further north along Parkdale Avenue.  A mid-rise apartment building is located to the south, and the Tunney’s Pasture Federal Office Campus is located to the west.  The Tunney’s Pasture rapid transit station is located about 500 metres to the southwest. 
 
The site is designated ‘Mixed-Use Centre’ pursuant to the City of Ottawa Official Plan, and currently zoned ‘Residential Fifth Density, Subzone B, Maximum height of 37 metres’ (R5B H(37)) pursuant to Zoning By-law 2008-250.
 
Details of Requested Zoning By-law Amendment Proposal:
In order to permit a 32-storey mixed-use development with retail and commercial uses at grade and 221 residential units above, a Zoning By-law Amendment has been requested.  The Zoning By-law Amendment proposes to introduce site-specific performance standards by increasing the permitted height from 37 metres to 105 metres; reducing interior setbacks from 1.5 metres (for the first 21 metres of lot depth) and 6 metres (after 21 metres of lot depth) to 2.9 metres; reducing rear and front setbacks to 0 metres; reducing corner setbacks from 3 metres to 1.5 metres; and reducing the required percentage of Landscape Area from 30% to 13%.
 
Vehicular access to the site will be provided via the municipal lane from Burnside Avenue into seven levels of underground parking.  There will be a total of 111 bicycle parking spaces.
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That 159 Parkdale condo shows a full ground floor of retail now - I have to imagine most or some of it would be food.
They're also talking a fully commercial podium now. I'm hoping for offices for doctors, dentists, and therapists of various sorts, which I think would be better for the privacy of e neighboring townhouses and also very useful for both the community (lots of older folks in the older Parkdale towers for whom it would be nice to have these services close to hand) and for the Tunney's Pasterians (it's great having a dentist in walking distance from the office, and it might be nice to have the same for other doctors).
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They're also talking a fully commercial podium now. I'm hoping for offices for doctors, dentists, and therapists of various sorts, which I think would be better for the privacy of e neighboring townhouses and also very useful for both the community (lots of older folks in the older Parkdale towers for whom it would be nice to have these services close to hand) and for the Tunney's Pasterians (it's great having a dentist in walking distance from the office, and it might be nice to have the same for other doctors).
I agree that that would be ideal. Mixed-use centres should have a true mix of uses, and not be developed solely with condo towers that nod to the principle by dedicating half their ground-floor space to retail.

Another interesting thing to note is that this one proposal, if approved for its full density would have more than a quarter of the total number of units currently proposed for the Tunney's Pasture site (220 vs. 800). This indicates that the Tunney's Pasture plan is not at all truly ambitious about anything but increasing government office space.
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They're also talking a fully commercial podium now. I'm hoping for offices for doctors, dentists, and therapists of various sorts, which I think would be better for the privacy of e neighboring townhouses and also very useful for both the community (lots of older folks in the older Parkdale towers for whom it would be nice to have these services close to hand) and for the Tunney's Pasterians (it's great having a dentist in walking distance from the office, and it might be nice to have the same for other doctors).
Pasterians?

How about Pastorals? (latin: pastoralis=of the fields (grazing))
or: Pasturians
or: Pasturites
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Yes, and to think that that downtown condo/grocery store/(?)daycare(?) was opposed by the always forward-thinking parking lot protector, Diane Holmes, who stated Metcalfe would be jammed by (I believe) 6-7 delivery trucks a day, turning onto Nepean.

But having hundreds of condo dwellers get in their cars to find food is fine if you achieve your goal of making a building slightly shorter.
I think that might have been the most idiotic comment she has ever made.
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20 coolest condo towers going up in Toronto: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/09/24/...ondo-bubble_n_1910559.html#slide=1561736

Too bad none are this cool in O-town!
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26-27-28 looks a bit like Place de Ville Tower C, only slimar and taller.

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20 coolest condo towers going up in Toronto: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/09/24/...ondo-bubble_n_1910559.html#slide=1561736

Too bad none are this cool in O-town!
Nice! Thanks.
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In the news this evening, Group Hefley is proposing residential buildings of 24, 27 and 30 stories behind the Terrasses de la Chaudiere. They hope starting the first building in 2013, pending of course passing all the zoning requests. Mayor Bureau seems to be in favor of the project.

Might eventually start a thread soon once articles will be posted online.
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Do you know what's happening at La Redempteur and Allumietierres? There's some digging going on there.
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