ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 279

Tuckerman · #**5561** Posted **Sep 16, 2012, 5:49 PM**

I hope we can get back to discussing construction instead of comparing cities in this maudlin way. I have lived in Chicago (area I grew up in), Boston, Baltimore, Antwerp, Marburg (Germany), Edinburgh and Atlanta. (Several for 10 or more years C, B, E and Atl). All of them were places of interest and discovery. If you have a million or more people nearby, you are bound to find someone interesting. And every city has its unique culture, restaurants, areas etc. You can be happy or miserable in any of them.

micropundit · #**5562** Posted **Sep 16, 2012, 8:41 PM**

The College Football Hall of Fame, a high-profile downtown Atlanta project, will open sometime in 2014, according to confident insiders who say they’ve got the funding and a business plan to ensure the attraction’s long-term success.According to John Stephenson, interim CEO of Atlanta Hall Management, it took the discipline to vet each aspect of the plan to make sure assumptions held up. While no one doubted the emotional support — “the idea speaks for itself,” he said — leaders had to test the business plan and create confidence in the project to attract funders. Stephenson says the college hall plan is sustainable and his group has created a plan that ensures success and doesn’t require public money.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/opinion/first-and-10-for-a-hall-of-fame/nSByg/

jpk1292000 · #**5563** Posted **Sep 16, 2012, 9:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

I hope we can get back to discussing construction instead of comparing cities in this maudlin way. I have lived in Chicago (area I grew up in), Boston, Baltimore, Antwerp, Marburg (Germany), Edinburgh and Atlanta. (Several for 10 or more years C, B, E and Atl). All of them were places of interest and discovery. If you have a million or more people nearby, you are bound to find someone interesting. And every city has its unique culture, restaurants, areas etc. You can be happy or miserable in any of them.

Agreed.

On that note, does anyone have a rendering of the apartments planned for 14th and Howell Mill. Was over there last night and there was a fence up, but it might have been there for a while.

jpk1292000 · #**5564** Posted **Sep 16, 2012, 9:40 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by micropundit

The College Football Hall of Fame, a high-profile downtown Atlanta project, will open sometime in 2014, according to confident insiders who say they’ve got the funding and a business plan to ensure the attraction’s long-term success.According to John Stephenson, interim CEO of Atlanta Hall Management, it took the discipline to vet each aspect of the plan to make sure assumptions held up. While no one doubted the emotional support — “the idea speaks for itself,” he said — leaders had to test the business plan and create confidence in the project to attract funders. Stephenson says the college hall plan is sustainable and his group has created a plan that ensures success and doesn’t require public money.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/opinion/first-and-10-for-a-hall-of-fame/nSByg/

Any idea on when they would break ground? I would think it would have to be very soon if they plan to open in two years.

TarHeelJ · #**5565** Posted **Sep 16, 2012, 11:24 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

I hope we can get back to discussing construction instead of comparing cities in this maudlin way. I have lived in Chicago (area I grew up in), Boston, Baltimore, Antwerp, Marburg (Germany), Edinburgh and Atlanta. (Several for 10 or more years C, B, E and Atl). All of them were places of interest and discovery. If you have a million or more people nearby, you are bound to find someone interesting. And every city has its unique culture, restaurants, areas etc. You can be happy or miserable in any of them.

Very true.

Zanarkand A East · #**5566** Posted **Sep 17, 2012, 5:25 PM**

Does anyone know if any of buildings will have their lights on to spell out FALCONS like a few years ago on 191 Peachtree? We've got quite a few nighttime games this season, and I'd love to see this again.

simms3_redux · #**5567** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 12:35 AM**

It's official, the City Council has deferred for 2 more weeks the land use/zoning change for Sembler/Fuqua's Lindbergh parcel, and the deliberation will be from within a committee, not the general council.

Both AJC and Biz Chron have the scoop. I'm very happy with the decision to uphold the majority of neighbors' and all the NPUs' wishes, thus far.

Meanwhile Fuqua seems to think the decision is a bit ridiculous and that his "development" would include a 3 acre "urban" park. How can you put a park and a Walmart with surface parking in the same compact site and call it walkable, neighborhood friendly, or even usable? You want neighbors to safely walk and use your park? Incorporate a pedestrian friendly design for your development that limits traffic and outsiders roaring through!!

On other development fronts, my observations from weekend:

1) CVS downtown is now open in former Brooks Brothers location

2) There's a fitness center next to Hooters and the adjoining space between that and the new Jos. A Bank is advertised for lease.

3) As has been stated before, the official construction fence for the CFCHR (Center for Civil and Human Rights, or whatever it's purported to be called) is up. However, the grass inside is still there, and green.

4) The 10th St streetscape is now mostly complete and the curb cuts near the MARTA station are structurally complete. I am disappointed in the yellow flashers in place. 1 on the side of the road heading west, 2 on the side of the road heading east (well there aren't actually flashers yet, just warning signs). I was hoping for a yellow flashing light overhead, which would actually serve somewhat of a purpose protecting pedestrians in this very pedestrian unfriendly city.

5) Neon lights now go up the sides of 805 Peachtree (apartments where Ligne Roset just vacated and where Bobby Berk is across from escorpion). It looks VERY good at night - amazing what a huge difference such a minor improvement can make and it accentuates the international style look of the building.

6) The little corner plaza created at W. Peachtree and Peachtree Place seems like it is being replicated at the corner of 10th and Peachtree, which would be a nice improvement.

7) Music Midtown is this weekend and they were setting up this past. Everyone should go at least 1 day/night for a good time.

8) I noticed on a jog last week that lights were on in many of the units at the Atlantic. Good sign there (though the price points on a PSF basis are cheaper there than almost anywhere built within the past decade on this side of the Connector...they don't really go above $1.80psf, but the large floorplans mean they start at a higher dollar amount. For reference you can look online and see that Skyhouse is renting $1.82-$2.15ish psf and 77 12th goes above $2.60psf if they can actually achieve that).

9) I just read on Midtown Patch that "Urbanist" lives in the Atlantic. This guy makes me on a bad/negative day seem like the jolly green giant. I hate him with a passion because no site that allows user comments seems to ban him and he obviously has nothing better to do than rant about everything, everyone, etc. He claims to be some big urbanist, all for dense walkable this that and the other...and he lives in the Atlantic. Bwahaha! He should shut up.

atlantaguy · #**5568** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 1:45 AM**

^Great post simms_3! Fantastic news re: Lindbergh too. Thanks for all the updates.

I totally concur on"Urbanist." I have seen his drivel, and it's hideous....

NYbyWAYofGA · #**5569** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 4:24 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by atlantaguy

^Great post simms_3! Fantastic news re: Lindbergh too. Thanks for all the updates.

I totally concur on"Urbanist." I have seen his drivel, and it's hideous....

We should invite him here for discussion. It would be interesting...to say the least.

NYbyWAYofGA · #**5570** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 4:35 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

It's official, the City Council has deferred for 2 more weeks the land use/zoning change for Sembler/Fuqua's Lindbergh parcel, and the deliberation will be from within a committee, not the general council.

Both AJC and Biz Chron have the scoop. I'm very happy with the decision to uphold the majority of neighbors' and all the NPUs' wishes, thus far.

Meanwhile Fuqua seems to think the decision is a bit ridiculous and that his "development" would include a 3 acre "urban" park. How can you put a park and a Walmart with surface parking in the same compact site and call it walkable, neighborhood friendly, or even usable? You want neighbors to safely walk and use your park? Incorporate a pedestrian friendly design for your development that limits traffic and outsiders roaring through!!

On other development fronts, my observations from weekend:

1) CVS downtown is now open in former Brooks Brothers location

2) There's a fitness center next to Hooters and the adjoining space between that and the new Jos. A Bank is advertised for lease.

3) As has been stated before, the official construction fence for the CFCHR (Center for Civil and Human Rights, or whatever it's purported to be called) is up. However, the grass inside is still there, and green.

4) The 10th St streetscape is now mostly complete and the curb cuts near the MARTA station are structurally complete. I am disappointed in the yellow flashers in place. 1 on the side of the road heading west, 2 on the side of the road heading east (well there aren't actually flashers yet, just warning signs). I was hoping for a yellow flashing light overhead, which would actually serve somewhat of a purpose protecting pedestrians in this very pedestrian unfriendly city.

5) Neon lights now go up the sides of 805 Peachtree (apartments where Ligne Roset just vacated and where Bobby Berk is across from escorpion). It looks VERY good at night - amazing what a huge difference such a minor improvement can make and it accentuates the international style look of the building.

6) The little corner plaza created at W. Peachtree and Peachtree Place seems like it is being replicated at the corner of 10th and Peachtree, which would be a nice improvement.

7) Music Midtown is this weekend and they were setting up this past. Everyone should go at least 1 day/night for a good time.

8) I noticed on a jog last week that lights were on in many of the units at the Atlantic. Good sign there (though the price points on a PSF basis are cheaper there than almost anywhere built within the past decade on this side of the Connector...they don't really go above $1.80psf, but the large floorplans mean they start at a higher dollar amount. For reference you can look online and see that Skyhouse is renting $1.82-$2.15ish psf and 77 12th goes above $2.60psf if they can actually achieve that).

9) I just read on Midtown Patch that "Urbanist" lives in the Atlantic. This guy makes me on a bad/negative day seem like the jolly green giant. I hate him with a passion because no site that allows user comments seems to ban him and he obviously has nothing better to do than rant about everything, everyone, etc. He claims to be some big urbanist, all for dense walkable this that and the other...and he lives in the Atlantic. Bwahaha! He should shut up.

Thank you for the updates, Simms! I was just in Atlanta for Labor Day weekend and I was actually impressed with how far Midtown has come in the years since I've lived in/been coming to Atlanta. The city, overall, has come a hell of a long way since the 90s and I had a blast!. I think it is all relative to how long you've actually been in Atlanta to see how far this city has come. I know that there are things that could be done better, but I think that the city has turned the corner and is going in the right direction. I just see nothing but potential in the area. Hopefully, things will get kicked up to the next level this decade.

atlantaguy · #**5571** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 1:29 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYbyWAYofGA

Thank you for the updates, Simms! I was just in Atlanta for Labor Day weekend and I was actually impressed with how far Midtown has come in the years since I've lived in/been coming to Atlanta. The city, overall, has come a hell of a long way since the 90s and I had a blast!. I think it is all relative to how long you've actually been in Atlanta to see how far this city has come. I know that there are things that could be done better, but I think that the city has turned the corner and is going in the right direction. I just see nothing but potential in the area. Hopefully, things will get kicked up to the next level this decade.

How refreshing! Friends that have moved away and first time visitors echo these same sentiments to me 99% of the time. The Beltline will be the real catalyst, imo.

Tuckerman · #**5572** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 1:50 PM**

Any information on the proposed development across from Whole Foods on E. Andrews Dr.? Appears large and a mix of residential/commercial.

simms3_redux · #**5573** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 4:30 PM**

Which side? That Whole Foods shopping center is literally surrounded on all sides by new development, mostly multifamily (not really mixed-use).

akiatl28 · #**5574** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 6:21 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

It's official, the City Council has deferred for 2 more weeks the land use/zoning change for Sembler/Fuqua's Lindbergh parcel, and the deliberation will be from within a committee, not the general council.

Both AJC and Biz Chron have the scoop. I'm very happy with the decision to uphold the majority of neighbors' and all the NPUs' wishes, thus far.

Meanwhile Fuqua seems to think the decision is a bit ridiculous and that his "development" would include a 3 acre "urban" park. How can you put a park and a Walmart with surface parking in the same compact site and call it walkable, neighborhood friendly, or even usable? You want neighbors to safely walk and use your park? Incorporate a pedestrian friendly design for your development that limits traffic and outsiders roaring through!!

On other development fronts, my observations from weekend:

1) CVS downtown is now open in former Brooks Brothers location

2) There's a fitness center next to Hooters and the adjoining space between that and the new Jos. A Bank is advertised for lease.

3) As has been stated before, the official construction fence for the CFCHR (Center for Civil and Human Rights, or whatever it's purported to be called) is up. However, the grass inside is still there, and green.

4) The 10th St streetscape is now mostly complete and the curb cuts near the MARTA station are structurally complete. I am disappointed in the yellow flashers in place. 1 on the side of the road heading west, 2 on the side of the road heading east (well there aren't actually flashers yet, just warning signs). I was hoping for a yellow flashing light overhead, which would actually serve somewhat of a purpose protecting pedestrians in this very pedestrian unfriendly city.

5) Neon lights now go up the sides of 805 Peachtree (apartments where Ligne Roset just vacated and where Bobby Berk is across from escorpion). It looks VERY good at night - amazing what a huge difference such a minor improvement can make and it accentuates the international style look of the building.

6) The little corner plaza created at W. Peachtree and Peachtree Place seems like it is being replicated at the corner of 10th and Peachtree, which would be a nice improvement.

7) Music Midtown is this weekend and they were setting up this past. Everyone should go at least 1 day/night for a good time.

8) I noticed on a jog last week that lights were on in many of the units at the Atlantic. Good sign there (though the price points on a PSF basis are cheaper there than almost anywhere built within the past decade on this side of the Connector...they don't really go above $1.80psf, but the large floorplans mean they start at a higher dollar amount. For reference you can look online and see that Skyhouse is renting $1.82-$2.15ish psf and 77 12th goes above $2.60psf if they can actually achieve that).

9) I just read on Midtown Patch that "Urbanist" lives in the Atlantic. This guy makes me on a bad/negative day seem like the jolly green giant. I hate him with a passion because no site that allows user comments seems to ban him and he obviously has nothing better to do than rant about everything, everyone, etc. He claims to be some big urbanist, all for dense walkable this that and the other...and he lives in the Atlantic. Bwahaha! He should shut up.

Can I just say Simms3_redux, I heart you and your posts lol

. You are so so spot on and valuable here. I drove through downtown today So so much potential and it gets me excited about being in this city! Keep posting!

Tuckerman · #**5575** Posted **Sep 18, 2012, 11:43 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

Which side? That Whole Foods shopping center is literally surrounded on all sides by new development, mostly multifamily (not really mixed-use).

All I have on this is from the Saporta Report which says:
"In Buckhead, a residential/commercial project across East Andrews Drive from the Whole Foods grocery store. It would be comprised of 348,654 square feet of residential and 363,474 square feet of commercial space, according to the developer, Tampa-based Camden USA;"

micropundit · #**5576** Posted **Sep 19, 2012, 2:25 AM**

Fuqua Development filed plans Monday for the project at 800 Glenwood Ave., with a 155,000-square-foot retail anchor and 40,000 square feet of “neighborhood-scale” retail.The site where his new Glenwood development would take shape is owned by Williams Bros. Concrete Inc., according to the city of Atlanta. It’s also just west of Glenwood Park, a new-urbanism mixed-use project developed several years ago by Charles Brewer .

The proposal comes as Fuqua is already planning a $90 million mixed-use development in Buckhead anchored by a nearly 150,000-square-foot Walmart.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/real_talk/2012/09/fuqua-plans-big-glenwood-project.html

simms3_redux · #**5577** Posted **Sep 19, 2012, 3:14 AM**

If he can push both of these Walmart centers through he can make bank, but I'll say screw him to the day he dies if actually succeeds.

I wouldn't protest too much if he can assemble land on Moreland towards the drive-in movie theater to put a Walmart, but right in the heart of the neighborhood near a development that so many poured their hearts into....eh eh.

Zanarkand A East · #**5578** Posted **Sep 19, 2012, 11:51 AM**

Maybe this is in poor taste, but I wonder how Dewberry's plane crash ordeal will affect his business ventures? Maybe there will be a groundbreaking on 10th and Peachtree sooner than he and we expected?

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/morni...na=e_atl_rdup&s=newsletter&ed=2012-09-19

Meanwhile, they've installed curtains and carpet in article14 in 1180 Peachtree.

jnihiser · #**5579** Posted **Sep 19, 2012, 3:07 PM**

I found this...

Was this previously mentioned on the forum?

http://www.fuquadevelopment.com/files/atlanta/archstonerocksprings.pdf

trainiac · #**5580** Posted **Sep 19, 2012, 6:35 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnihiser

I found this...

Was this previously mentioned on the forum?

http://www.fuquadevelopment.com/files/atlanta/archstonerocksprings.pdf

Woa. Is the old strip mall just south of Cheshire Bridge? I remember 5 years ago or so it was supposed to get redeveloped (when they kicked out most of the tenants). It addresses the sidewalk properly, so I'm cool with that aspect.