Lloyd District News - Page 12

Derek · #**221** Posted **Aug 28, 2012, 1:10 AM**

Nice.

urbanlife · #**222** Posted **Aug 28, 2012, 4:18 AM**

That's good to hear, hopefully this will help stimulate some major development in that area. There are too many parking lots and underdeveloped lots in that area.

zilfondel · #**223** Posted **Aug 29, 2012, 5:17 PM**

This is good news, I think. Although I doubt we will actually see that many towers, the view, especially of downtown, is potentially one of the Lloyd District's biggest assets for residential.

That is an awesome map! I actually like how they lowered the max height on Broadway - keeping it a buffer between wealthy Irvington and the commercial area to the south, perhaps it will also help preserve it as a commercial street.

PacificNW · #**224** Posted **Sep 4, 2012, 8:29 PM**

http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/blog/real-estate-daily/2012/09/metro-chooses-hyatt-for-occ.html

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index...for_convention.html#incart_river_default

Pretty uninspiring architecture, imo...

Derek · #**225** Posted **Sep 4, 2012, 10:43 PM**

2015 eh?

65MAX · #**226** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 7:23 AM**

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Originally Posted by PacificNW

http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index...for_convention.html#incart_river_default

Pretty uninspiring architecture, imo...

I'm guessing that's just a schematic design, not how the hotel would actually look. The detailing wouldn't be done until they decide whether they want a single hotel or two, and then settle on a site.

bvpcvm · #**227** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 12:42 PM**

what would be the advantage (to the company) of two separate hotels?

urbanlife · #**228** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 1:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by bvpcvm

what would be the advantage (to the company) of two separate hotels?

Easier to shut down one building when it isn't needed? I use to work for a hotel that would shut down entire wings when the travel season was slow.

pbd · #**229** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 3:17 PM**

Also the hotels may be at different price points. So a portion of the rooms are really high end and a portion is less expensive and under a different name. Like half Marriot half Courtyard by Marriot for example.

MarkDaMan · #**230** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 4:50 PM**

If they decide to split it into two hotels, not a bad idea IMO, as it does give different price points and can attract more groups, I hope they incorporate it into one building like Williams & Dame are doing with their Courtyard/Residence Inn in LA.

http://wddcorp.com/projects/index.php?neighborhood=south-park&project=26

65MAX · #**231** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 5:28 PM**

I agree, one building would be better than two. I imagine they'd be sharing facilities anyway... conference rooms, kitchens, maintenance, etc. Maybe have two separate lobbies, if that's how they want to market it, but keep all the rooms stacked in one tower. It's just as easy (if not easier) to shut down individual floors in the off-season as it is to shut down an entire building.

Sioux612 · #**232** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 6:27 PM**

Such a huge disappointment, especially when you consider the Weston design.

maccoinnich · #**233** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 7:33 PM**

The people on oregonlive are not happy.

Derek · #**234** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 7:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by maccoinnich

The people on oregonlive are not happy.

They never are.

tworivers · #**235** Posted **Sep 5, 2012, 8:32 PM**

edit: Actually, I think I'm more interested in discussing the architecture than what the idiots who reside on Oregonlive all day every day have to say.

Those renderings, however preliminary, are pretty mediocre but not surprising. I'm guessing the team wanted to play it as "safe" as possible, i.e. make it look affordable to Metro and not make any waves among the local media or populace, neither of which are particularly sophisticated when it comes to architecture. It has that boxy, quasi-traditional thing going on that we ("we") seem to love.

I do think it is interesting that they seem more focused on the blocks north of the CC. I wonder what the background is on that; does it matter at all that Metro just spent several million dollars developing that plaza to the east? I think that project turned out pretty nice -- if the hotel were to catalyze the blocks between MLK and Grand north of 84 in such a way that that plaza became more of an urban space surrounded by mixed-use, that would be awesome.

It would be nice to see 100 Multnomah back on the table, too. That whole area from the mall to the river is such a clusterf***...hope I live to see the day when it's been transformed back into some semblance of urban fabric...

PDX City-State · #**236** Posted **Sep 6, 2012, 12:20 AM**

The Westin design didn't include any meeting space or amenities--so really wasn't a true convention center hotel.

I would love to see a nice building, but that's secondary to doing something that starts bringing some dollars to this area. Not putting the convention center downtown was one of the worst mistakes the city every made. Having something there that adds the number of rooms needed--and the other amenities will help tremendously.

MarkDaMan · #**237** Posted **Sep 6, 2012, 12:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by PDX City-State

The Westin design didn't include any meeting space or amenities--so really wasn't a true convention center hotel.

I would love to see a nice building, but that's secondary to doing something that starts bringing some dollars to this area. Not putting the convention center downtown was one of the worst mistakes the city every made. Having something there that adds the number of rooms needed--and the other amenities will help tremendously.

Actually the Westin proposal had 36,000sq ft of meeting space + another 22,000sq ft in prefunction. It was an ideal complementary hotel to the OCC.

http://library.oregonmetro.gov/files/hvs_study.pdf

If the OCC was downtown it would kill blocks and blocks of street life. Can you imagine the 19 loading bays fronting a downtown street?

Being up against the freeway, next to MAX, now streetcar, and a quickly growing Lloyd District, it's in the perfect spot. The views of downtown from the upper floors are spectacular! The growing district will transform the experience for people coming to a convention.

Derek · #**238** Posted **Sep 6, 2012, 12:45 AM**

Yeah, having OCC downtown would be a disaster (where the hell would they even put it?). It's location now is perfect, that area just needs to be built up a bit.

PacificNW · #**239** Posted **Sep 6, 2012, 1:36 AM**

There were a number of proposals for the convention center. A couple would have placed the center downtown but the Lloyd District location won out...

Mr. Walch · #**240** Posted **Sep 6, 2012, 5:17 AM**

Even with the bland design I am still excited. The Lloyd District's ship may finally be coming in. 600 new hotel rooms. 200 new apartments on the same block and 60 more to the west. 780 and a whole lot of new retail a few blocks to the east. 100 or so more along broadway to the north. That sound like the critical mass needed to get a lot of other property owners off the side lines and into the game. Who knows, maybe some day the full block Burger King might go away. Like some one mentioned before, Llody could be the new Pearl. I only wonder if Portland has the demand to support major development in Lloyd, Conway, SoWa, North Pearl and the post office site.