PITTSBURGH | Development Rundown II - Page 85

BrianTH · #**1681** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 12:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by haimon

Any thoughts? I would love to see it somewhere between oakland and downtown.

I'd start it in Market Square. If it needed more space, you could move into Point Park.

Jonboy1983 · #**1682** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 3:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by haimon

I would LOVE something like this in Pittsburgh. A unique destination, appropriate for all ages, etc. Any thoughts? I would love to see it somewhere between oakland and downtown.
http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/life...-after-dark-are-catching-on-here-651094/

I have also thought of that, and sure, having something as such located somewhere along Centre Avenue or anywhere in the Hill District would be a good way to draw people to this neighborhood.

haimon · #**1683** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 6:57 PM**

Market Square or Point Park would be nice visa-vie locale and proximity to other destinations. I just think they both have their purposes, and unique characteristics as destinations. I would envision the night market as a permanent fixture, and destination in itself.

PGHFan · #**1684** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 8:36 PM**

the Nachtmarket in Vienna is a permanent line of buildings about a mile long, located next to the below grade subway track. It is busy every night. There is a mix of restaurants and food vendors the length of the market, but most seem to be Asian in inspiration. The market opens around six and closes around 11 pm. It is always packed with people. Many dine al fresco. I was there in March and people were outside dining in areas heated by infrared or gas lamps. It was alive and a wonderful place to stroll through to find a suitable cuisine. These are the kinds of amenities that European cities do well with and what we do poorly with. Even the lack of sidewalk food vendors in most of our cities, including Pittsburgh, helps tamp down the energy of the streets, particularly at night. Maybe its our food sanitation standards, or permit process, but I think we miss a great opportunity for festival!

Austinlee · #**1685** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 9:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by PGHFan

the Nachtmarket in Vienna is a permanent line of buildings about a mile long, located next to the below grade subway track. It is busy every night. There is a mix of restaurants and food vendors the length of the market, but most seem to be Asian in inspiration. The market opens around six and closes around 11 pm. It is always packed with people. Many dine al fresco. I was there in March and people were outside dining in areas heated by infrared or gas lamps. It was alive and a wonderful place to stroll through to find a suitable cuisine. These are the kinds of amenities that European cities do well with and what we do poorly with. Even the lack of sidewalk food vendors in most of our cities, including Pittsburgh, helps tamp down the energy of the streets, particularly at night. Maybe its our food sanitation standards, or permit process, but I think we miss a great opportunity for festival!

That's a good question. Outdoor food really helps the liveliness of the after dark scene. I loved going to bars then after eating fresh food from vendors at 2am in the Southside and Strip District in years past. They seem to be few and far between though around here.

doo dah · #**1686** Posted **Aug 31, 2012, 10:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by PGHFan

the Nachtmarket in Vienna is a permanent line of buildings about a mile long, located next to the below grade subway track. It is busy every night. There is a mix of restaurants and food vendors the length of the market, but most seem to be Asian in inspiration. The market opens around six and closes around 11 pm. It is always packed with people. Many dine al fresco. I was there in March and people were outside dining in areas heated by infrared or gas lamps. It was alive and a wonderful place to stroll through to find a suitable cuisine. These are the kinds of amenities that European cities do well with and what we do poorly with. Even the lack of sidewalk food vendors in most of our cities, including Pittsburgh, helps tamp down the energy of the streets, particularly at night. Maybe its our food sanitation standards, or permit process, but I think we miss a great opportunity for festival!

That's Naschmarkt, not "Night Market", believe me, my German husband gave me a really hard time after I kept referring to it like that!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naschmarkt

PGHFan · #**1687** Posted **Sep 1, 2012, 10:54 AM**

Thanks for the correction but the point remains. It is a wonderful gathering place in the evening and it makes wonderful use of an awkward strip of land. Regardless of spelling, which I know if important, it would be an exciting concept for many cities in the US>

Austinlee · #**1688** Posted **Sep 1, 2012, 3:24 PM**

The Rivervue condo building is lit up at night on top. I was suprised to see this coming through the fort pitt tunnel last night. It looked kinda interesting. I didn't get a pic.

Captain Crash · #**1689** Posted **Sep 1, 2012, 5:55 PM**

The Pittsburgh Riverhounds have posted some information about the status of the construction on Highmark Stadium at Station Square. They've completed 'Phase I' which is mostly just getting the site prepped. Nice to see though. There's some pictures and a link to a live web cam of the site!

http://www.riverhounds.com/home/656963.html

Burgh15 · #**1690** Posted **Sep 1, 2012, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Austinlee

The Rivervue condo building is lit up at night on top. I was suprised to see this coming through the fort pitt tunnel last night. It looked kinda interesting. I didn't get a pic.

I like the lighting, but am unsure about the color. I really like what they've done with the Gulf Building. I've seen it a couple of times now and it is a nice tough. Very unique.

BrianTH · #**1691** Posted **Sep 2, 2012, 12:44 PM**

Rivervue was purple on top last night--I actually thought it was OK, and looked complementary to the Wyndam sign which is blue.

BrianTH · #**1692** Posted **Sep 2, 2012, 1:24 PM**

As you can see in the linked camera view, the light poles for the stadium are up--for me it helps to visualize the field and future stadium in general. The area west of the bridge is definitely looking like an extension of the parking lot.

7068073429 · #**1693** Posted **Sep 3, 2012, 2:28 PM**

Do we really need another stadium? I'm not current on this one -- why are they building it and why can't one of the other 2 be used instead of building yet another?

BrianTH · #**1694** Posted **Sep 3, 2012, 4:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by 7068073429

Do we really need another stadium? I'm not current on this one -- why are they building it and why can't one of the other 2 be used instead of building yet another?

It is a dedicated pro soccer stadium which will also be used for a few other sports (e.g., women's pro football) and events. The NFL and MLB stadiums are way too big and expensive to operate, and this way the soccer team will also get it own team facilities.

Austinlee · #**1695** Posted **Sep 3, 2012, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by 7068073429

Do we really need another stadium? I'm not current on this one -- why are they building it and why can't one of the other 2 be used instead of building yet another?

Yeah, totally different size my man. A soccer team building a $7 million dollar stadium is not even gonna be able to afford to turn on some hallway and bathroom lights at Heinz field. Not to mention grass damage and stuff.

Jonboy1983 · #**1696** Posted **Sep 3, 2012, 11:23 PM**

They could have tried PNC Park... That place looks like a glorified landfill as of late (and as f&&ing usual...)

Anyway, all kidding/sarcasm aside, that brings to mind the time I was at a high school football game at Three Rivers Stadium the second week of the season. How many people is this stadium going to hold at full capacity? I'm thinking it's somewhere in the 5-10k range, maybe 15k. I figure roughly the same amount as who would attend a high school football game, which is why I brought up that particular football game at Three Rivers regarding the post about having soccer games at Heinz Field.

The only places that I could see holding tens of thousands of soccer (futball) fans are those over in Europe, Africa, South America, and Asia...

I wonder if the Riverhounds are hoping to join MLS at some point...

BrianTH · #**1697** Posted **Sep 4, 2012, 12:56 AM**

It has seating for 3500, I believe.

That's far too small for MLS, or probably even NASL (NASL is the current second division--USL Pro, the Riverhounds current league, is now the third division).

Jonboy1983 · #**1698** Posted **Sep 4, 2012, 2:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by BrianTH

It has seating for 3500, I believe.

That's far too small for MLS, or probably even NASL (NASL is the current second division--USL Pro, the Riverhounds current league, is now the third division).

Oh, I didn't realize that... My bad

BrianTH · #**1699** Posted **Sep 4, 2012, 3:55 AM**

Of course the modest size is why it could be crammed into such a narrow spot to begin with--and it will allow for an awesome view.

That said, I'm thinking they could add some seats if demand warranted.

ShooFlyPie · #**1700** Posted **Sep 4, 2012, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Burgh15

I like the lighting, but am unsure about the color. I really like what they've done with the Gulf Building. I've seen it a couple of times now and it is a nice tough. Very unique.

I got some photos of it this weekend

I went and took a video of the Randy Pausch Memorial bridge lighting as well at CMU a few weeks back. It also is pretty cool and done by the same lighting designers.

More lighting schemes such as this will be seen more often such as the Rivervue condo Austin mentioned above as well. Color LED lighting fixtures are taking off and lowering in price substantially. This is why many HID exterior fixtures are being converted to LED cause they last so long and use far less wattage, so they pay for themselves through energy savings in a reasonable time frame. If you are doing a building like the Gulf tower then why not upgrade it's energy efficiency and go back to Color lighting well you are at it. Exterior architectural lighting will only get more interesting with LEDs. Some may be tacky.