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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 12:42 AM
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A few bad cops in any police department are the power-hungry assholes who are always right, regardless of what their superior officer, the law, the judge... says. Make sure you cite the relevant section of the MCL or traffic code so that Officer Krispy Kreme can be properly informed. Also, take pleasure in knowing that you will never meet the qualifications to become a cop. http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95...1#.UD4F6d1lQ7t
So, they ended up answering my email this morning, and then called me back later in the day. One of the officer's superior told me that he'd talked to the officer, which is all I wanted, anyway. He also told me that it's legal to ride on the sidewalk unless otherwise posted, which is funny because downtown is one of the only areas where you have signage explicitly telling you that bikes and skateboards aren't allowed on the sidewalk. He was very nice, but then dropped on me that the officer was also a bike cop, which kind of blew my mind, because he has to know how confusing the traffic situation with all of the road construction and closed sidewalks in the area. Anyway, he went on with the usual "well, he's pretty new" blah, blah, blah, but wasn't respectful enough to keep the excuses to a minimum. Anyway, I'm satisfied with the conclusion. Like bad service anywhere else, unless they know they are doing wrong, they'll keep doing wrong, so hopefully, this will keep this from happening in the future.

Man, you wouldn't know how pissed I was. Had that been some stranger, that may have ended in some kind altercation, and I've never been in a fight in my life.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 12:42 AM
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At least you got an omlette, right?
Yep, mom always makes sure her little heathens are properly fed.

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I go to church with my mother two or three times per year and we usually have brunch afterward. I wish my mother were Catholic, but no, she is evangelical protestant so I not only get called a heathen for not going to church, but I'm going to allegedly "burn in hell" for (drinking alcohol, having sex outside of marriage, believing in evolution, supporting gay marriage and ending discrimination against gays, not praying about ALL of my problems, allegedly not respecting my parents, not reading the Bible, calling the pastor a crook because he has hired most of his family and makes a HUGE salary, for not ALWAYS agreeing with Israel in the mideast conflict, for calling out so-called religious people on the bullshit, for not treating people of other religons as damned/inferior/et al, for not seeing a religious issue in every political issue....). And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
While us Catholics spent EVERY Sunday in church we also had all of those pesky "holy days of obligation" plus catechism on Wednsday night, confession plus I was an alterboy but when we were away from church, we were AWAY from church. We never talked about it (the above conversation with mom is about the extent of it), and, like most Catholics, didn't have a bible in the house. My parents, like most Catholics, love to party with their friends and the both to this day they both can let out a string of swear words that would make a sailor blush.......Hell, mom even went on the pill in 1966 after having 5 children in just over 7 years. "No Goddamn sexless priest is going to tell me how to run my Goddamn sexlife life!"
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 12:54 AM
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While us Catholics spent EVERY Sunday in church we also had all of those pesky "holy days of obligation" plus catechism on Wednsday night, confession plus I was an alterboy but when we were away from church, we were AWAY from church. We never talked about it (the above conversation with mom is about the extent of it), and, like most Catholics, didn't have a bible in the house. My parents, like most Catholics, love to party with their friends and the both to this day they both can let out a string of swear words that would make a sailor blush.......Hell, mom even went on the pill in 1966 after having 5 children in just over 7 years. "No Goddamn sexless priest is going to tell me how to run my Goddamn sexlife life!"
My dad was raised Catholic, one of my uncles was an alterboy...and my dad's an atheist, now. lol
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^ I was raised Catholic as well. At 17 I was no longer forced to go to church after threatening to take a shit on the altar. The only times I've been since were my mom and step-dad's anniversary 3 years ago and while in Sicily last March (you don't say no to those mafia cousins).
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 1:01 AM
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I do go to weddings and funerals in Catholic church but that's about it.

Luckily since mom went to a very strict Catholic school, she didn't want her babies being subjected to the wrath of hateful, bitchy nuns, so we got to be "public" kids.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 1:12 AM
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^ Oh, I forgot about a wedding in 2005. Also, that was the first wedding I attended in which a fist fight occurred.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 1:24 AM
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My folks do occasionally show a superior streak due to their religion, almost always toward evangelical Baptists (the two groups are NOT the best of friends), and southerners since they are both from Minnesota....I remember this little conversation from many years ago that my dad had with some hillbilly, southern Baptist kids from the church up the street who were soliciting their bible school door to door using their regional dialect.....

*Ding-Dong*

Dad: "May I help you?"

Baptist kid: "We juss wanted to know if yer children want to join us in our bobble skoo?"

Dad: "What the hell is a bobble skoo?"

Baptist kid: "Not bobble skoo....BOBBLE SKOO!"

Dad: "That's what I said, bobble skoo. What do they bobble there?"

Baptist kid: "NO! Bobble, like the holy book."

Dad: "OH, BIBLE....whats a skoo?"

Baptist kid: "A place where yous go to learn and such."

Dad: "Oh, so you want to know if my children want to join you in your BIBLE SCHOOL?!"

Baptist kid: "Yes sir, that's what I said."

Dad: "No thanks, we're Catholic so we're already going to heaven."

Door closes, mom scolds him while holding back a laugh.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 1:55 AM
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I was raised atheist. I didn't know what a church was until I was a teenager. We've been through this before.

The whole thing is silly to me. All I knew of god when I was little is that he lived in the sky and hated everything fun.
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I was raised atheist. I didn't know what a church was until I was a teenager. We've been through this before.

The whole thing is silly to me. All I knew of god when I was little is that he lived in the sky and hated everything fun.
Church for me as a kid was my Mom's excuse to sleep in with her hangover. I'll never forget filling those tithing envelopes.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 6:13 AM
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So, they ended up answering my email this morning, and then called me back later in the day. One of the officer's superior told me that he'd talked to the officer, which is all I wanted, anyway. He also told me that it's legal to ride on the sidewalk unless otherwise posted, which is funny because downtown is one of the only areas where you have signage explicitly telling you that bikes and skateboards aren't allowed on the sidewalk. He was very nice, but then dropped on me that the officer was also a bike cop, which kind of blew my mind, because he has to know how confusing the traffic situation with all of the road construction and closed sidewalks in the area. Anyway, he went on with the usual "well, he's pretty new" blah, blah, blah, but wasn't respectful enough to keep the excuses to a minimum. Anyway, I'm satisfied with the conclusion. Like bad service anywhere else, unless they know they are doing wrong, they'll keep doing wrong, so hopefully, this will keep this from happening in the future.

Man, you wouldn't know how pissed I was. Had that been some stranger, that may have ended in some kind altercation, and I've never been in a fight in my life.
Lot's of ambiguity in Chicago.


1. It's illegal to ride a bicycle on a Chicago sidewalk
2. Bicyclists must yield to pedestrians when riding on sidewalks
3. When signage is present, it's illegal for bicyclists to ride on a sidewalk
4. On Sheridan Road, it's especially illegal to ride a bicycle on the sidewalk because of slow moving old people.

In other words, the ordinance goes to great lengths to mention where it's definitely not allowed, but gives the flexibility for an officer to stop you if they really feel like it. Since a ridiculous number of people here ride on the sidewalks it doesn't sound like they're all that concerned. Though it's a stupid thing to do. You could hit and injure someone.

The city requires skateboarders to ride on sidewalks. Skateboarding is prohibited in business districts where there are sidewalk obstructions, storefront doors, etc that could create collisions.
Though technically prohibited, skaters generally aren't hassled in business districts with wide sidewalks. Early mornings, or late evenings, the ordinance isn't enforced since pedestrian congestion is low.

Longboarders tend to be treated differently. I use a longboard to get to work on Michigan Ave and ride in both the streets and sidewalks. So do other people. I think the city treats these skaters differently since they tend to be commuters, not "punks doing tricks and making noise outside building lobbies and plazas" Then again, Chicagoans don't seem to be all that concerned with skaters taking over plazas. The drummer kids, saxophone guys playing notes (not songs, just notes), and loud sirens tend to make more of a ruckus.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 7:02 AM
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Aren't they not even your biological parents? I don't understand why you can't just shut them out of your life entirely.

Severely religious people really piss me off.
Does saying "money when they die" make me a bad person?
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Does saying "money when they die" make me a bad person?
Depends, do you plan on hastening their departure from this world? Then, yes, you're probably a bad person, but a splendid capitalist. If not, than no, you're a good person.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 9:30 PM
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Depends, do you plan on hastening their departure from this world? Then, yes, you're probably a bad person, but a splendid capitalist. If not, than no, you're a good person.
Haha dude I don't hasten anything. If I'm a splendid anything, it's as a procrastinator. Anyway, seeing as how small my family is, and how unreliable everyone else in my life has proven to be, I see no good in completely cutting things off with them. They just helped me out tremendously in fact getting back in class this semester. I do love them, they're family, even of they say fucked up shit from time to time.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 10:12 PM
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^Dude, I know all about procrastination; I took the 12-year plan for the bachelors.
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Old Posted Aug 30, 2012, 10:21 PM
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I still have two years left. If I'm lucky.
move to a 'big state' midwest college town, say university of kansas. you could belch out a bachelors and a masters in the same time, i bet.

i'm only half joking...it worked for me.
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I took the 12-year plan for the bachelors.
When I'm all done, I'll spend about 12 years in school: 4 years undergrad, 4 years grad, 2 years doctorate, 2 years post-doc. A physics degree is quite the undertaking.

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Old Posted Aug 31, 2012, 1:55 AM
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yo, i was in iowa city dralcoffin. i had no idea (seriously) that it was that close (4.5 hours or less) to st. louis. unfortunately it was pouring rain when i came back through and didn't explore much. it's much more off the radar than a lot of other university towns (and universities) here and i don't know why...and it's a much nicer drive up that way than west to mizzou or ku.
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When I'm all done, I'll spend about 12 years in school: 4 years undergrad, 4 years grad, 2 years doctorate, 2 years post-doc. A physics degree is quite the undertaking.
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Add to that all the pre-college years in grades 1 through 8 and high school, and then all the hours of post-college time you will have spent sleeping, and if you live out a life expectancy of 70-plus years, you will have spent a sizable portion of your life sleeping or in class (or sleeping in class ) No wonder the country's a mess!

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