YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 227

giallo · #**4521** Posted **Aug 9, 2012, 11:15 AM**

^ I'll be using that flight (Westjet) to go down to LA next January.

Hot Rod · #**4522** Posted **Aug 12, 2012, 5:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hourglass

Given that the US has roughly 10x the population of Canada, the more relevant statistic here might be international traffic -- esp since most of SEA's volumes are domestic passengers. By that measure, YVR is third (after SFO) on the west coast.

As was my point

bils · #**4523** Posted **Aug 12, 2012, 11:51 PM**

a single caterpillar is on the site of the outlet mall and has begun clearing some of the brush.

Johnny Aussie · #**4524** Posted **Aug 15, 2012, 10:48 PM**

I have been darting in and out of town recently and had the pleasure of catching up with a former colleague now at VAA and talked about future prospects.

Of course, I will be as vague as possible but here are some of the possible things in the works:

CA - Air China will possibly be adding flights again like last summer. Seems like PEK capacity reduced too much (down to only 1 daily) so will probably see more flights added (maybe even 2 daily).
MU - China Eastern may further increase to 2 daily as well.
CZ - China Southern possibly to daily, their ultimate goal of course.
LH - still looking to possibly add more capacity.
VS - maybe adding one extra weekly. They have loaded the same sched for next year already anyway.

Who knows if any of this will happen. But none of this seems outside the realm of real possibility!

Johnny Aussie · #**4525** Posted **Aug 17, 2012, 10:50 PM**

http://www.theprovince.com/touch/life/story.html?id=7102651

Good to see ships moving back to being Vancouver based from Seattle and Europe.

So how does this affect YVR. Well let's use their estimate. Not sure if the total includes passengers embarking and disembarking (let's assume they do).

They expect about a 25% increase in passengers or 160,000.

Assuming, very conservatively, 80% from outside BC and then 50% use YVR as I recall many Americans would still fly into SEA then take a bus up to Vancouver. That would mean at least another ~ 13,000 - 15,000 pax per month from May to September.

casper · #**4526** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 2:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Assuming, very conservatively, 80% from outside BC and then 50% use YVR as I recall many Americans would still fly into SEA then take a bus up to Vancouver. That would mean at least another ~ 13,000 - 15,000 pax per month from May to September.

If you look at the cruise ship board (cruise critic) what appears to be a very popular option is Amtrak to Seattle. Then flying out of Seattle.

Langdon0630 · #**4527** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 4:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

http://www.theprovince.com/touch/life/story.html?id=7102651

Good to see ships moving back to being Vancouver based from Seattle and Europe.

So how does this affect YVR. Well let's use their estimate. Not sure if the total includes passengers embarking and disembarking (let's assume they do).

They expect about a 25% increase in passengers or 160,000.

Assuming, very conservatively, 80% from outside BC and then 50% use YVR as I recall many Americans would still fly into SEA then take a bus up to Vancouver. That would mean at least another ~ 13,000 - 15,000 pax per month from May to September.

Part (or all?) of the increase is that Disney Cruise Line is coming back next year. They were in last year, and then decided to move to Seattle this year. But I heard that before this cruise season started, They HATE Seattle already lol, that's why they are back to Vancouver.

mr.x · #**4528** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 5:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by Langdon0630

Part (or all?) of the increase is that Disney Cruise Line is coming back next year. They were in last year, and then decided to move to Seattle this year. But I heard that before this cruise season started, They HATE Seattle already lol, that's why they are back to Vancouver.

In what context do they hate Seattle? And who is hating? Disney or the passengers?

Hourglass · #**4529** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 7:03 AM**

The Disney Cruise Line president said earlier this year in an interview that being based in Seattle this year gave them a chance to gauge and compare the reaction of their guests to both Vancouver and Seattle as Alaska homeports (http://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Trave...w-York,-Seattle-and-Galveston-homeports/)

Don't know about the 'hate' for Seattle, but interesting that in the Province article, Disney does talk about the very positive reaction of their passengers to Vancouver as a homeport. Hope they stay for a while!

Johnny Aussie · #**4530** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 8:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by Langdon0630

Part (or all?) of the increase is that Disney Cruise Line is coming back next year. They were in last year, and then decided to move to Seattle this year. But I heard that before this cruise season started, They HATE Seattle already lol, that's why they are back to Vancouver.

The major increases are coming from Disney and Norwegian plus additional sailings by Holland America.

casper · #**4531** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 8:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hourglass

The Disney Cruise Line president said earlier this year in an interview that being based in Seattle this year gave them a chance to gauge and compare the reaction of their guests to both Vancouver and Seattle as Alaska homeports (http://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Trave...w-York,-Seattle-and-Galveston-homeports/)

Don't know about the 'hate' for Seattle, but interesting that in the Province article, Disney does talk about the very positive reaction of their passengers to Vancouver as a homeport. Hope they stay for a while!

None of these ships are registered in the US, for that reason they have to do a round trip back to the same port or they have to have a stop in a foreign country (Canada) to be legal. The Seattle based ships doing the one way sailing to Alaska usually stop in Victoria for a day or so to make the trip international and legal. In the case of Vancouver based ships, they usually do US customs pre-clearance when boarding in Vancouver and then Canadian customs when arriving back in Vancouver and disembarking. Perhaps it is easier to do the customs that way than mid journey with a Seattle sailing?

Norwegian cruise lines does not have a ship home porting in Vancouver this year but they plan one ship scheduled to home port in Vancouver next year. So its not just Disney that is expanding into Vancouver.

Johnny Aussie · #**4532** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 8:20 AM**

Looks like the race is on to handle all the additional cruise ship passengers... Kidding!

Delta launching daily YVR - JFK next summer on 737-800 equipment.

http://airlineroute.net/2012/08/18/dl-jfkyvr-s13/

Hourglass · #**4533** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 9:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Looks like the race is on to handle all the additional cruise ship passengers... Kidding!

Delta launching daily YVR - JFK next summer on 737-800 equipment.

http://airlineroute.net/2012/08/18/dl-jfkyvr-s13/

Lol, I was going to post this, but you beat me to th punch.

With the timing, it definitely looks like Delta is targeting cruise traffic -- and maybe some onward connection opportunities from YVR to Europe via JFK. Still prefer the CX flight given that it's a widebody, but the late (early?) arrival is a bit of a pain...

Gordon · #**4534** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 2:14 PM**

The Amsterdam made 1 pre-season stop in Vancouver, she is based in Seattle. Nice to see Delta adding more service to Vancouver.

I'd like to see West Jet's SFO service become yearround.

casper · #**4535** Posted **Aug 18, 2012, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

The Amsterdam made 1 pre-season stop in Vancouver, she is based in Seattle. Nice to see Delta adding more service to Vancouver.

I'd like to see West Jet's SFO service become yearround.

Most of the other cruise lines do the same thing. When they reposition the ships from the Caribbean through the panama cannel then end up somewhere in California (LA or San Francisco). Since the ship is not US flagged they can't legally sell a cruise from a port in California to Seattle. It has to be an international route, so the cruise line will run a cruise to Vancouver then reposition to Seattle for the season. Same thing in reverse at the end of the season.

wrenegade · #**4536** Posted **Sep 4, 2012, 11:21 PM**

Photo for Canada Post's Pacific Processing Centre, September 1st.

This puppy is huge (700,000 sf), but more than just the number, the comparison to the UPS facility (sorry no photo) next door really puts it into perspective.

IMG_0975.jpg by Alex.Wren.Photo, on Flickr

SFUVancouver · #**4537** Posted **Sep 6, 2012, 7:39 PM**

Does anyone know whether there will be a shuttle service that connects the Canada Post facility and the closest Canada Line SkyTrain station?

nname · #**4538** Posted **Sep 6, 2012, 10:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Does anyone know whether there will be a shuttle service that connects the Canada Post facility and the closest Canada Line SkyTrain station?

There used to be a TransLink C90 route going there, but it was cancelled just 3 days ago due to low ridership... I think the route got about 5 weekday riders before it was cancelled...

rxp · #**4539** Posted **Sep 7, 2012, 8:44 PM**

did anyone watch Border Security Canada yesterday? They aired 2 episodes on Nat Geo and were showing our CBSA officers in action at YVR....

I cant seem to find the link on Nat Geos website for the show....

whatnext · #**4540** Posted **Sep 8, 2012, 7:34 AM**

YVR is easting no time clearing the antediluvian pre-load on the outlet mall site. Tandem dump trucks have been working at a breakneck pace, and its pretty much all gone (wonder where it went?).