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Originally Posted by simms3_redux
I personally thought saving the facade and entrance/1st 3rd of the building was far enough. I have spent the majority of the past month in northeast cities where far more beautiful historic buildings are incorporated into new towers or low-rise developments. Shame on Atlanta for not being progressive here. The Tech datacenter will now have to be revisited.
Also, HAMSTER, please QUIT posting construction updates on crap like Dunkin Donuts, AAA, gas stations and otherwise suburban outparcel developments. It's depressing and who the F cares?
Atlantaguy, good points earlier but I'm done being optimistic, hopeful, and done making excuses for this city/metro. Blindfatsnake also had good points, but this isn't entirely about race. It's just stupidity on virtually every level.
I'm starting to hate Atlanta with a passion and I don't see much future here, and I work in one of the largest and most reputable RE investment firms with presence here. We have offices in the NE and west coast and I would love to move up the ranks and move out to one of those offices at one point because this stinkin city is stuck in time, and not a good time.
Having just gotten back from Boston, there is MAJOR construction going on everywhere there. Nothing super tall, but BIG developments - multifamily, office, healthcare, hospitality, you name it. In addition to being more urban with a 24/7 rail system and walkable neighborhoods, excellent shopping, and a plethora of EDUCATED citizens, it is clean and relatively crime free. Atlanta just seems so slow, hot, dirty, ghetto, crime-ridden and uneducated in comparison it's very hard to come back. There are bike lanes everywhere there, no broken sidewalks, parks are better maintained (there's a LOT more money in Boston), and the concentration of virtually all business is in the central core from Seaport to Back Bay to Cambridge.
You fly into Atlanta and you see tall buildings scattered all about with forest land in between. That's just depressing. We'll never be urbanized like other cities. Time to move on.
And yes Scania, I will always be anti-suburb and there is nothing you can do to change that or prove to me the positives of suburbs. A few scattered restaurants here and there requiring long drives to get to does not prove to me that the food scene out there is better than intown. I've been to historic Roswell. It's ok, very cool for this area but pales in comparison to small historic towns in other regions of the country.
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Just nitpicking here, but Boston does NOT have a 24/7 rail system. I lived there for 4 years (and really enjoyed it!), and much like Atlanta, you were hosed after 12:30am.
And there was also crime in Boston...in Back Bay as well as Roxbury.
While there are many businesses in Boston's core, areas like Waltham are just as (if not more) important as Boston with certain vertical markets. Retail...a quick trip into Downtown Crossing will bring to mind elements of Underground...they have had a heck of a time keeping retail tenants in that neighborhood...and it's a ghost town after 8p every night.
Something you don't see in Boston? People older than 22. It's a college town, and with this comes the lack of age diversity. Intown Atlanta (while often courting us young folks) has it's share of middle-aged residents who enjoy the amenities that intown has to offer. As fast as new residents move into Boston, there are just as many (newly minted grads) moving out.
And to add...while it's inappropriate to call folks 'ghetto', outside of Boston's Back Bay and surrounding areas, there exists an interesting group of folks (ever see The Town?...there is no exaggeration going on there) that call the city home. They are not Ivy League-educated, and would not neatly fit into a category of people you might readily want attached to your city.
I can tell you that the urbanity of Boston is quite impressive, but that Atlanta has an incredible 'approachable' attitude about it that Boston does not possess, especially when it comes to daily living (and affordability). I'm guessing most folks on this forum could actually afford to live in the new apartment and condo highrises that continue to dot our landscape here in Atlanta. Not so in Boston. I know what $2500 gets you in Boston. And it does not include AC (Boston is just as hot as ATL in the summer), windows that shut properly, a nice landlord, or granite counter tops.
I think it's important to have a balanced discussion, and not just a 'grass is greener' chat. I loved Boston, but Atlanta allows folks to enjoy the things that you would never be able to afford in Btown.
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