Canada's 50 Tallest Proposals

[caltrane74]

The developer will pay to shadow.

City will accept.

[DrNest]

They'll argue that the shadow will protect the kiddies from sunburn and save them getting skin cancer. The council will then be seen as heartless nimbys if they still reject 50 Bloor West after that argument...

[WhipperSnapper]

Typical absurdity. Shut down a school by declaring it an inappropriate use for its location in the middle of detached neighbourhood. Let's forget the Four Seasons is taller due to a compromise between shadowing of the school's community and the developer's submission. Who says the end result couldn't be the same for 50 Bloor? Imagine a taller, thinner supertall aligned with Four Seasons' shadow.

[yaletown_fella]

^^ Unlike design, I don't think shadowing is a legitimate reason for rejecting a proposal. UV rays do not improve one's quality of life. Unless their goal is to look like a red leather handbag.

UTS is being relocated (and most likely replaced with condos) and shares a similar proximity to Yorkville as the elementary school in question.

Moreover, the developer would have to increase the prices of the units in order to build a "taller, thinner supertall" This is to cover the costs of the extra structural engineering costs, transfer floors, elevators etc. Otherwise the venture would be less profitable.
I am unsure if the site can accommodate twin 35-40 story towers but that very well may be a possible solution for the developer to work around council's shadowing nonsense. That or an incentive as Caltrane suggested. Who knows. This is still in its infancy and very susceptible to biting the dust considering we're at a tipping point of the markets and financial sector.

[rbt]

Originally Posted by yaletown_fella

^^ Unlike design, I don't think shadowing is a legitimate reason for rejecting a proposal. UV rays do not improve one's quality of life. Unless their goal is to look like a red leather handbag.

Not certain of that. Parts of Manhatten can be really depressing to live in just because even on the sunniest of days you still don't get much light at street level.

[caltrane74]

Any shade you get on a sunny day in Manhattan would be welcome.

For a northern city the heat in spring, summer and fall in New York City is oppressive.

[yaletown_fella]

^^ True. I've always been confused by the fact that New York is a coastal city but unlike Vancouver dosen't enjoy a moderated forecast throughout summer months.

[The_Architect]

The urban heat island in New York is insane.

[caltrane74]

Shamez Virani of CentreCourt Developments is saying INDX is 90% sold.


Read the article here:


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/08/07/toronto-condos-perks-sales-developers.html

The past year has been filled with incredible milestones for CentreCourt that I take a great deal of pride in. We have had the great fortune of being involved in the three most successful condo project launches over the past twelve months – Peter Street, Karma and INDX condos. Between these three projects, we’ve sold over 1,600 units or roughly 95% of all the units that we have released. On the back of this sales success, we’ve been able to start construction at Peter Street and Karma, and are on track to start construction at INDX early next year. Even in a hot market like Toronto, these achievements are truly incredible.

http://notable.ca/nationwide/young-professionals/YPDaily-Shamez-Virani/

[caltrane74]

90 Harbour has a name!!



Harbour Plaza Residences

http://www.talkcondo.com/toronto/harbour-plaza-residences

[Ramako]

I can't believe that these snoozers will become the most dominant towers on Toronto's lakeview skyline. The only positive is that the office tower, which is rather neutral, will block out those horrid green-glassed Maple Leaf Square towers.

[DrNest]

I haven't been to Centre Island for a few years, so haven't seen the skyline view with MLS towers, but nevertheless I actually like them. Although they do look in dire need of a clean up. Was walking by there just a few days and couldn't help but think that the glass was looking tired and so dirty.

[Pavlov]

City Centre in Eau Claire (which is currently excavating btw):

Originally Posted by Wooster

New angles of City Centre


http://calgarycitycentre.ca/img/office-large-2.jpg


http://calgarycitycentre.ca/img/bg-overview.jpg


http://calgarycitycentre.ca/img/bg-office.jpg

[vanman]

^Very nice!

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally Posted by Ramako

I can't believe that these snoozers will become the most dominant towers on Toronto's lakeview skyline. The only positive is that the office tower, which is rather neutral, will block out those horrid green-glassed Maple Leaf Square towers.

Wow; aren't we confident.

[Ramako]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Wow; aren't we confident.

Not particularly, but whether or not these towers get built within the next few years, the land remains in the hands of Menkes, and they can be counted to produce bland and uninspiring architecture, whether it takes them five years or ten.

[isaidso]

^^ Agree 100%. The towers they will block are many notches better. I'm not optimistic that these buildings will be the show pieces I'd hoped based on these preliminary renderings.

Originally Posted by rbt

Not certain of that. Parts of Manhatten can be really depressing to live in just because even on the sunniest of days you still don't get much light at street level.

I live downtown because I love the scale in the built form that a big north American city provides. The shade provided by tall buildings has the added bonus of shielding us from UV rays. I want the shadows.

If I want sunshine, I'll head to the beach or Saskatchewan.

[Andrewjm3D]

Originally Posted by Ramako

Not particularly, but whether or not these towers get built within the next few years, the land remains in the hands of Menkes, and they can be counted to produce bland and uninspiring architecture, whether it takes them five years or ten.

Not nearly as bad as Pinnacle or Concord Pacific. People need to calm down as well because those are not final designs or renders.

[caltrane74]

Seems to me the City took issue mainly with the placement of the towers, and the podium and PATH layout. The major issue with the actual towers themselves had to do with the design of the balcony glass.

Looks like this proposal will sail through practically as is.

[The_Architect]

90 Harbour is awful, with even worse street-level treatment. As Ramako said, it's a shame these awful snoozers are blocking out the real (read: quality) skyline of the city.