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Old Posted Jul 27, 2012, 12:13 AM
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Some sad news.....

The remaining Zellers stores that are not converting to Target will be closing shop by March 2013.

So, that means our downtown Zellers will soon be gone with nothing planned for its space.

I have a bad feeling that once Zellers leaves the building, The Bay will probably follow. Very sad if that happens. The Bay is really the only place to buy designer goods in our downtown.

Just another reason for suburban folk to avoid our downtown and head to the malls.

ya but with all the new residential projects goin on dt im sure bay wont be goin no where

more waterfront projects, herritedge landing, dubrovink, center point residence, mpi lots and conventino center that area gonna boom soon

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Old Posted Jul 27, 2012, 3:04 AM
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I have a bad feeling that once Zellers leaves the building, The Bay will probably follow. Very sad if that happens. The Bay is really the only place to buy designer goods in our downtown.
They probably won't be operating under the Zellers name, but some Zellers stores could possibly continue to operate under a new name according to some news articles.

It's kind of sad, I'll kinda miss Zellers. Gotta wonder where they're going to build the Target to service the Northern quadrant of the city if they're not going to bother with Northgate shopping centre's Zellers.

It'll live on. Theres a house on Langside with a bench that says "thank you for shopping at woolco" sitting on their porch. That amused me.
     
     
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The Bay is really the only place to buy designer goods in our downtown.
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2012, 4:44 AM
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The Bay will stay, if anything they will just reincorporate the basement as it was before. But I am guessing the Bay which did retain some Zellers, but not the name, will make a new Name up, and TBH, it would be a good marketing tool, as Zellers in all honesty has a bad rep. They need something that can compare with Walmart and now Target. Which means more then 1 till working a 3 employees lol.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2012, 4:48 AM
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The maps show that urban sprawl is WAY worse in both Calgary and Edmonton than in Winnipeg - but interestingly, both those cities also have a lot more urban infill than we do.

Agreed a 2011 update would be cool to see.
Go do a google earth view and you will see what I mean, so much of Winnipeg is missing. And in that picture / map, it is using 20kms, while Edmonton is using 15kms. Makes a huge diff. Also Winnipeg doesn't suck up every town around it like Calgary and Edmonton, We pretty much could suck everything from the north perimeter to Selkirk it is so built up. But I personally rather keep it the way it is.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2012, 5:20 AM
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Go do a google earth view and you will see what I mean, so much of Winnipeg is missing. And in that picture / map, it is using 20kms, while Edmonton is using 15kms. Makes a huge diff. Also Winnipeg doesn't suck up every town around it like Calgary and Edmonton, We pretty much could suck everything from the north perimeter to Selkirk it is so built up. But I personally rather keep it the way it is.

like i said edmonton and calgary have no appeal as cities worst city planning ever.. calgary dt feels lifeless im telling you... it looks nice from some angles but really calgary is top 3 worst cities in canada... never been edmonton in 5 years but when i was there only thing to do was the mall and even that was overrated... i think we need to emulate vancouver or montreal if we wanna be appealing city..

calgary is not a easy city navigate in either
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2012, 6:14 AM
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what thread in the canada section has those maps?....i cant find it.
I don't think it was posted there. Its from this link:

http://env-blogs.uwaterloo.ca/atlas/?page_id=448#Families

Its only got the "major" Canadian cities and centres though. There are more maps too which are really neat to look at.

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Go do a google earth view and you will see what I mean, so much of Winnipeg is missing. And in that picture / map, it is using 20kms, while Edmonton is using 15kms. Makes a huge diff. Also Winnipeg doesn't suck up every town around it like Calgary and Edmonton, We pretty much could suck everything from the north perimeter to Selkirk it is so built up. But I personally rather keep it the way it is.
I agree there have been tons more housing starts in the last several years alone..there is not enough supply to meet demand here yet. I know tons of families who want new homes but can't get them because they don't exist or they have to reserve them well in advance and live elsewhere in the meantime. There could easily be more housing starts, but there aren't. Its important, and I know many on here do not like sprawl; I don't entirely either, but there is a balance and some of that type of development needs to made. Most modern families (seem to) prefer suburban living.

But it still pales in comparison to Calgary or Edmonton...I mean look at Calgary's red dots...unreal! Puts into perspective how much of a boom it really was! What Winnipeg is going through now, is nothing like what happened in Alberta. And they are still growing faster than Winnipeg right now, even after slowing down a lot themselves. The housing market generally has more potential in Winnipeg, largely due to demand being consistently underestimated.

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like i said edmonton and calgary have no appeal as cities worst city planning ever.. calgary dt feels lifeless im telling you... it looks nice from some angles but really calgary is top 3 worst cities in canada... never been edmonton in 5 years but when i was there only thing to do was the mall and even that was overrated... i think we need to emulate vancouver or montreal if we wanna be appealing city..

calgary is not a easy city navigate in either
Really man??

Let's not hate on other cities now...saying "top 3 worst" is just immature. "Worst" is a very subjective term. Calgary certainly doesn't have as many homicides as Winnipeg does this year (or any other year), not even close. That could be viewed with a different POV for what the term "worst" could define.

For the record, travelling in general in Calgary (if one understands and comprehends directions that is) is much much more simple than Winnipeg, any time. Grid systems are much easier to navigate, once understood. I have yet to come across anything like confusion corner...

And better city planning arguably exists in both Edmonton & Calgary than Winnipeg too. That doesn't mean Winnipeg is bad or anything, its just the way it is. Those are newer cities. They have been able to plan for different considerations. They've made different choices (LRT comes to mind..which they built when both were smaller than Winnipeg at the time!) Winnipeg is an older city, and, was 13 smaller cities at one time that all built up their areas in their own ways first then connected everything together. But that is what adds to Winnipeg's charm. There are actual street names in Peg. No "13th ave NW" or any of that stuff. Its "Isabel" or "Rouge" or whatever. Its awesome.

For me, I am happy Winnipeg is so different from Calgary & Edmonton. It can't be directly compared to the two as a result since it has its own charms and deep (and imo richer) history.

But no need to knock on other cities. I also live in Calgary, and there is a lot to love about that city. I love going to Edmonton and spending weekends there. They are both great places.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2012, 9:01 AM
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like i said edmonton and calgary have no appeal as cities worst city planning ever.. calgary dt feels lifeless im telling you... it looks nice from some angles but really calgary is top 3 worst cities in canada... never been edmonton in 5 years but when i was there only thing to do was the mall and even that was overrated... i think we need to emulate vancouver or montreal if we wanna be appealing city..

calgary is not a easy city navigate in either
Compared to Edmonton, Calgary has worser planning. Dont forget, Edmonton has actually figured out how to build transit systems and such, along with entire districts and neighborhoods.

Calgary Downtown though, it does have life in it. The Edmonton downtown was horrible, minus the light metro stations such as Central, Corona and Churchill. That and the Zenaris.

Edmontons Whyte Avenue and Calgarys Centre St/Kensington are equals, just like our Osborne Street. Mall isn't THAT bad.

Edmonton, managed to navigate by myself, carrying luggage aboard ETS all day, no issue. Calgary to be honest, is a bitch travel-wise
     
     
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they're redoing them a bit new bus round about new food vendor stalls ect
     
     
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If Zellers disappears, where will the seniors go?
     
     
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Florida .
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2012, 12:26 AM
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Florida .
The seniors at Zellers can't afford Florida. There is one old guy that I see on the bus here often, he fucking lives at the Zellers up the street. He never buys anything and he looks very unclean (but he has a home, in a social housing block) and I think he just wanders around the aisles like a ghost, but, like, he can't afford to go to Florida, so what is going to happen to him?

The way I see it, Zellers exists to give seniors somewhere to go when they're lonely and bored. It's also there to remind us that at least Walmart picks things up off the floor on a somewhat regular basis.
     
     
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they're redoing them a bit new bus round about new food vendor stalls ect
Bus loop and vendors? Got a pic?
     
     
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The seniors at Zellers can't afford Florida. There is one old guy that I see on the bus here often, he fucking lives at the Zellers up the street. He never buys anything and he looks very unclean (but he has a home, in a social housing block) and I think he just wanders around the aisles like a ghost, but, like, he can't afford to go to Florida, so what is going to happen to him?

The way I see it, Zellers exists to give seniors somewhere to go when they're lonely and bored. It's also there to remind us that at least Walmart picks things up off the floor on a somewhat regular basis.
friggin hilarious man.



wasn't the Zellers in the Bay considered separate though? Like it might still exist they just might have to rebrand everything as the Bay. I don't think they'd close it down...I heard its pretty solid in terms of getting traffic in the building. Dunno how it is in sales though. But there is a lot of food options/groceries and all that stuff there. Good for those living downtown.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2012, 7:43 AM
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There is one old guy that I see on the bus here often, he fucking lives at the Zellers up the street. He never buys anything and he looks very unclean (but he has a home, in a social housing block) and I think he just wanders around the aisles like a ghost, but, like, he can't afford to go to Florida, so what is going to happen to him?
Who cares? He's not buying anything and he's unclean. He should GTFO. He's bad for business.
     
     
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... but, like, he can't afford to go to Florida, so what is going to happen to him?
We can give him a picture of Florida .
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Who cares? He's not buying anything and he's unclean. He should GTFO. He's bad for business.
No he isn't. He's Zellers' target market. If it wasn't for him, the place would be twice as empty.

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We can give him a picture of Florida .
He appreciates that. I am sure the incoherent mumbling sound he just made means something along the lines of "thank you" in his own mind.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2012, 5:06 PM
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No he isn't. He's Zellers' target market. If it wasn't for him, the place would be twice as empty.
Zellers target market is people who don't buy anything and stink up the place? Makes sense.
     
     
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