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Old Posted Jul 20, 2012, 2:30 AM
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I think he meant if they wanted to do two articulated trainsets (2+2) they would have to double the platform length. Adding a C-car would only require 10 extra meters.

do you think that will ever become a reality? I mean lengthening all Canada Line platforms to accomodate the C (middle) car? That'd be great.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2012, 2:43 AM
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All the underground platforms are already built with the 10 meter expansion in place, just knock out walls there now. You can see the extensions at the end of the platforms.

Would love to see the Canada line trains with their C cars, three train cars open end to end I think would look pretty nice when riding.

I ride the Canada Line almost every day and I love it, so clean, love the wider train cars, etc...

Riding the Expo line, especially east of Commercial / Broadway on an old MK1 car feels like such a drop in class compared to the M and C lines.

The only thing I would change with the C-Line now is a second Robson street entrance and exit at Vancouver City Centre. That station desperately needs another set of stairs and escalators. Such features could be built at the southern end of the platform, therefore taking up no more platform space (and in way giving a sense of an extended platform area, akin to Waterfront and its south entrance.)

This should seriously be coordinated with the reno / improvements of the Sears building.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2012, 4:08 AM
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do you think that will ever become a reality? I mean lengthening all Canada Line platforms to accomodate the C (middle) car? That'd be great.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2012, 5:24 AM
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All the underground platforms are already built with the 10 meter expansion in place, just knock out walls there now. You can see the extensions at the end of the platforms.

Would love to see the Canada line trains with their C cars, three train cars open end to end I think would look pretty nice when riding.

I ride the Canada Line almost every day and I love it, so clean, love the wider train cars, etc...

Riding the Expo line, especially east of Commercial / Broadway on an old MK1 car feels like such a drop in class compared to the M and C lines.

The only thing I would change with the C-Line now is a second Robson street entrance and exit at Vancouver City Centre. That station desperately needs another set of stairs and escalators. Such features could be built at the southern end of the platform, therefore taking up no more platform space (and in way giving a sense of an extended platform area, akin to Waterfront and its south entrance.)

This should seriously be coordinated with the reno / improvements of the Sears building.
Or they could expand the emergency staircase that's currently located on Robson to include an up escalator and staircase, an entrance similar to the secondary entrance for C-Line's Waterfront.

I'd prefer the new Mark II trains any day over the Rotems. It's almost as if InTransitBC went to Hyundai and said, "build us trains with the cheapest parts and materials."

Changing the seating arrangement to side seating and adding more supports to hold onto would do much to increase Rotem train capacities.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2012, 5:28 AM
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Oh don't get me wrong, I love the new MK2 train cars, but riding the Canada line everyday for your transit is a treat. I am happy I moved to south Van.
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Old Posted Jul 20, 2012, 7:23 AM
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Riding the Expo line, especially east of Commercial / Broadway on an old MK1 car feels like such a drop in class compared to the M and C lines.


I remember when Skytrain opened, and those cars came onstream. "They're like toy trains," I remember thinking.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2012, 11:27 PM
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Hello

Here is another quick video I made today, these are just shots i am gathering in the hopes of making a big video later this year, but it is also fun to share them in the meantime.

This is from the skywalk above the Broadway Station platforms:

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The Super Mario Brothers map of Metro Vancouver has been updated to include the Evergreen line..

http://davesgeekyideas.com/2012/07/28/vancouver-skytrain-map-super-mario-3-style-second-edition/

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Old Posted Jul 28, 2012, 11:42 PM
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Old Posted Aug 2, 2012, 3:32 PM
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http://www.theprovince.com/news/bc/Rider...s+prior+ticket+checks/7026359/story.html

SkyTrain riders on Wednesday questioned a transit police plan to announce when and where they will be checking for fare evaders.

Transit police announced Tuesday they will advise riders through the various media outlets in the Greater Vancouver area when and which stations they will be checking for tickets. But some riders who do pay for their tickets panned the advance notice in the war on SkyTrain cheats.

“It is good to hear TransLink plans to crack down on fare evaders,” said Lonnie Neufeld, 55, of New Westminster. “But the proposed methodology is absolute nonsense.”

“How will giving fare evaders advance notice help in cracking down on them?” he questioned. “These people are fare evaders — they are not stupid — if they are told when and where they will be checked, does TransLink really expect them to cheat at those points in time?”

Neufeld, a real-estate appraiser, travels most work days by SkyTrain from New Westminster to downtown Vancouver.

He buys a monthly pass for $110 and said he has been asked for a ticket three times since riding public transit on a regular basis for the past two years. He feels transit police announcing the times and places they will be checking may have few results.

“How is that a crackdown?” he asked.

Ester Nielsen, 70, who was waiting at Waterfront Station for a Canada Line SkyTrain to Richmond, said something has to be done with fare cheaters. She also questioned the plan to announce in advance where there will be fare checks.

“I think it is a mistake,” she said of the plan by transit police. “If they tell people where they are going to be, everyone will buy a ticket.”

“If they show up unannounced they will get more cheaters.”

Helen Muhammed, 27, who travels to downtown Vancouver from Burnaby, also agreed that something needs to be done with fare cheaters, but questioned letting the cheats know where there will be fare checks.

“People will buy a ticket if they know they will be checked,” she said. “But that is a good thing getting people to buy their tickets.”

The transit authority estimates it lost $7.4 million to fare evaders on SkyTrain last year.

Jordan Bateman, the B.C. director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, said transit police should not announce where they will be.

“Do an overall blitz,” he said. “That would scare more people than announcing a specific location.”

“This plan has me scratching my head.”

District of North Vancouver Mayor Richard Walton, who is the chair of TransLink’s mayor’s council on transportation, said he has mixed feelings about telling people ahead of time where there will be checks.

“I’m not sure it’s the way I’d go,” he said of the plan.

But he thinks informing the public ahead of time will at least get people thinking about purchasing a ticket. And even if people are caught without a ticket, Walton notes that many don’t have a driver’s licence, so collecting the fine could be difficult.

A ticket for not having a SkyTrain ticket is $173. Under the new legislation by the provincial government, TransLink will now be able to go after the fine using a collection agency if necessary, and anybody who does not pay could be refused insurance with ICBC and would not be able to renew their licence.

”Collecting the fine is a real challenge,” he said.

Transit police media liaison Anne Drennan said while they will announce where the checks will be conducted, they will have additional officers unannounced at other SkyTrain stations checking for tickets at the same time. The campaign begins Sept. 4.

“This is a ramping up of fare evasion in peak periods in September,” Drennan said.

“There will be other transit officers working at other locations,” she added. “Just because a person avoids the targeted place they shouldn’t think they will get off scot-free.”

Drennan said their aim is not to write more tickets, but make people aware they need to purchase a ticket.

“We are hearing from people all the time saying get out and make everybody pay.

“We think it is good that people are talking about this issue.

“It is just one tactic and we will analyze it to see if it is having a positive effect.”
     
     
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Old Posted Aug 4, 2012, 4:40 AM
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The Super Mario Brothers map of Metro Vancouver has been updated to include the Evergreen line..

http://davesgeekyideas.com/2012/07/28/vancouver-skytrain-map-super-mario-3-style-second-edition/
I think Translink should adopt these maps. They are great! Or at the very least print up a few and put them in some skytrain cars on April Fools.
     
     
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Two Transit Police officers have been charged with assault after a Vancouver police investigation into an incident at Granville SkyTrain station in February.

Transit Police asked the VPD to launch a criminal investigation into the actions of the two constables who dealt with a 27-year-old man at the station on Feb. 9, 2012.

In a press release, VPD Const. Brian Montague said the officers approached the man while he was sitting on the Seymour Street steps to the station.

They had overheard that the man might be in some kind of distress, said Montague.

“The officers began speaking with the man and it is alleged that the two officers physically assaulted the man and pepper-sprayed him after he attempted to walk away,” according to the release.

“After a thorough and lengthy investigation, Vancouver Police Professional Standards investigators concluded that there were reasonable grounds to believe an assault-related criminal offence was committed by the members of the Transit Police . . . Crown Counsel has now formally laid charges against the two officers.”

Charged with one count of assault are Alfred Wong and Bruce Shipley
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 1, 2012, 5:26 AM
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"SkyTrain technology" now marketed as full-size metro

SkyTrain techonology: Bombardier’s ART now marketed as full-size “INNOVIA Metro”
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Bombardier has changed the name of their automated rapid transit technology, which moves the Vancouver SkyTrain (Expo and Millennium Lines). The new branding is called “INNOVIA Metro”, and replaces the original branding “Advanced Rapid Transit” as well as the older “Intermediate Capacity Transit System”.

Perhaps a realization by Bombardier of what the technologies comprising ART can effectively do, the new marketing name effectively puts the ART technology and rolling stock in line with other full-sized metro solutions that Bombardier is marketing, such as the MOVIA Metro. This may be the first time that an automated rapid transit system is being mass-marketed to the specific markets that desire full-scale metro systems.

Bombardier appears to have done this quietly, with the renaming not yet having been accompanied by any press release. However, the change is becoming evident in Bombardier documents, such as their annual reports.

The Innovia METRO is built upon the same Advanced Rapid Transit (formerly Intermediate Capacity Transit System as it was developed by UTDC in the 1980s) technology used in Vancouver's SkyTrain and the new trains will be compatible with existing ART implementations.
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For over 25 years, Bombardier has been a world leader in the medium-capacity metro segment with its advanced rapid transit technology. Combining the success and engineering expertise of this platform, Bombardier is now offering its latest evolution – the new fully automated INNOVIA Metro 300 system.
As featured by local pro-SkyTrain advocacy "SkyTrain for Surrey" - [CLICK HERE FOR MORE INFO]

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Old Posted Sep 2, 2012, 11:33 PM
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They renamed it a while back - even the monorail is now called INNOVIA
     
     
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It's been part of the INNOVIA lineup for awhile, but INNOVIA "Metro" is a new twist. Before they marketed as INNOVIA "ART" but as INNOVIA "Metro" it also gets marketed alongside the popular "MOVIA" Metro line. This indicates that Bombardier is really confident in the future of the technology and this could mean the particular application spreading to more markets - more than just medium-capacity, even.

I would love to shove this in DMJ's face as well as the Now and Leader editors who took in his recent "SkyTrain is obsolete" letter (because this really proves that it is far, far from).
     
     
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The who ICTS/Metro distinction is pretty dumb in the first place. As soon as they got past the MkI cars they capacity distinction is really just a matter of train length and what the end user wants in terms of car width.

From my impressions of the various upgrade options presented, the frame of the Mk2 train can support considerably wider trains than we currently run. Its just a matter of specifying which body you want mounted and providing clearance and infrastructure for the rolling stock.

Since the width is adjustable and the train length can changed how is the ART system much different from a full metro.
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Transit loophole allows fare evaders to escape fines

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Transit loophole allows fare evaders to escape fines
By Tiffany Crawford, Vancouver Sun September 7, 2012 11:10 AM

Some Transit police officers have stopped writing tickets until the provincial government and TransLink sort out a loophole in new bylaw that allows fare evaders to escape fines.
Under the new legislation that came into effect this week, if a rider refuses to show police identification after not producing proof of a fare, officers must let the person go without a ticket.
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http://www.vancouversun.com/news/metro/T...r+fare+evaders+escape/7207065/story.html
     
     
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According to the new Transportation Minister the loophole has been closed.
apparently the problem occurred because the legislation was rushed through in the spring.
     
     
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According to the new Transportation Minister the loophole has been closed.
apparently the problem occurred because the legislation was rushed through in the spring.
I'm beginning to like this new Transportation Minister. If this was Shirley Bond or Kevin Falcon, we'd probably need to wait for months, even years to get this fixed. And while the people complain, Bond or Falcon will just let it slide and put the blame on Translink.

Lekstrom is the first Transport Minister since...ever that actually tackled the problems head on, regardless of whose fault, and find solutions rather than point fingers. Mary Polak seems to be in the same wave length as Lekstrom, so lets hope she will be as good as we hope she is....
     
     
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