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Old Posted Jun 29, 2012, 5:59 PM
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What the Mayor of Surrey doesn't say is that the capacity of the bus route from Surrey Central Skytrain to Langley isn't even close to being full.


http://www.theprovince.com/news/Surrey+d...g+Canada+celebrations/6861432/story.html

The city is pushing for three light rail lines in the community: one along 104 Avenue from City Centre to Highway 1, one along King George Boulevard to Newton, and one on Fraser Highway connecting Surrey’s downtown to Langley.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2012, 8:02 PM
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What the Mayor of Surrey doesn't say is that the capacity of the bus route from Surrey Central Skytrain to Langley isn't even close to being full.


http://www.theprovince.com/news/Surrey+d...g+Canada+celebrations/6861432/story.html

The city is pushing for three light rail lines in the community: one along 104 Avenue from City Centre to Highway 1, one along King George Boulevard to Newton, and one on Fraser Highway connecting Surrey’s downtown to Langley.
True. The 502 has little problem handling the demand coming from Langley City. You can see this in the map of most passed up stops on the 502 - the huge majority are located in Fleetwood and not eastward.

Mayor Watts' statement is probably from an older news release.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 2:30 PM
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More fuss about handydart.

But supposedly the average taxisaver ride costs translink $8 vs $30 for a handydart ride - then wouldn't it make sense to scrap handydart instead?

http://www.theprovince.com/health/Discou...+threatened+TransLink/6872855/story.html

In the early 1990s, Bruce Chown, a manager at TransLink, envisioned a subsidized taxi program that would supplement the organization’s HandyDart service and provide seniors and the disabled with a cost-effective transportation option.

The ensuing TaxiSaver program, which was enthusiastically backed by the region’s taxi companies, allowed registered HandyDart users to receive the same-day, flexible and direct taxi service most take for granted for half the cost.

Twenty years later, Chown, now retired, has joined the fight to keep the popular program afloat as TransLink mulls a proposal to scrap it so that it can redirect an estimated $1.1 million in annual savings to its HandyDart service.

On Tuesday afternoon, Chown, 79, will voice his opposition to the proposal at a public forum sponsored by the Vancouver Seniors Advisory Committee and the City of Vancouver Persons with Disabilities Advisory Committee.

The two groups have led the charge against TransLink’s proposed cuts, and Chown said he agrees that the plan makes no financial sense and will have a negative impact on the estimated 7,400 people who currently use it.

“We all know the population is aging and more and more people are going to be coming on needing that service,” he told The Province Monday. “It doesn’t make sense to scrap it. It is a good program that is working well. Frail seniors and people with disabilities need it and it should be continued because it is cost-effective.”

North Vancouver resident Monica Howell, who suffers from MS and is on disability assistance, agrees. She said she regularly uses the TaxiSaver program for grocery shopping, trips to the doctor and evenings out.

She also uses it for spontaneous outings, something not attainable through the HandyDart service, which requires advanced booking of two to three days.

“If the price of the cabs is doubled, there are going to be places that I can’t go,” she said. “I’m kind of a spur-of-the-moment kind of person. I would be stuck at home if I didn’t have it (the TaxiSaver program).”

Jill Weiss, chairwoman of the Persons with Disabilities Advisory Committee, said she doesn’t understand why TransLink would cancel a program that is “win-win” for all parties and cheaper to operate than the HandyDart service.

According to 2010 data supplied by TransLink to the Canadian Urban Transit Authority, she said the average cost of a HandyDart ride is $30, compared to the average $8 it costs TransLink for a TaxiSaver ride where the user pays 50 per cent of the fare.

“The cancellation of the TaxiSaver Program doesn’t make human sense and it doesn’t make financial sense,” she said. “It is a really good system. It is good for people and it is good for TransLink and for taxpayers. It’s difficult to understand how they arrived at a decision that will provide less rides for the same amount of money.”

She encouraged everyone concerned with TransLink’s proposal to attend the forum, which will be held at the Community Centre Auditorium (870 Denman St.) from 1-4 p.m. TransLink board member Don Rose is among the scheduled speakers.

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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 4:37 PM
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More fuss about handydart.

But supposedly the average taxisaver ride costs translink $8 vs $30 for a handydart ride - then wouldn't it make sense to scrap handydart instead?
Now that's a very interesting idea to ponder. If one still had to enroll in the program, which would involve proof of permanent disability and/or a means test, then transitioning to an all-taxi system would not only significantly lower the cost per trip, but it would also increase the trip flexibility. Currently one has to book their HandyDart one or more days in advance and they still have 15-30 minute windows of arrival and departure times. That really adds up and it takes away the option for spontaneity. The increase in demand would also prompt Metro Vancouver municipalities to issue more taxi licences, or at least more wheelchair accessible vehicle taxi licences, and that would benefit all taxi users, not just those utilizing it for taxi-saver travel.

How does the taxi-saver system work in practice? Do passengers buy tickets out of pocket, as they would faresaver tickets, or is it 'free' to use when they present their accessible/disability transit pass? Is there a limit to the number of trips per week/month?
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 4:57 PM
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I don't know who sells taxisavers. However I know that there is some sort of quota system , and users may only buy X amount per month, which leads to hoarding of some sort.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 7:28 PM
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The TaxiSaver program allows the user to buy 1 or 2 $25 voucher books a month. the $25 book is worth $50 in Taxi rides.

If they cancelled the HandyDart program the cost of using Taxi's exclusively would be way way too much for most. Instead of paying $2.50 for a HandyDart ride that would cost $10-$30+ it would cost the user $10-$30+ for the taxi. This would instantly kill 99% of the people who use HandyDarts ability to go out and do things as they just couldn't afford the taxi rides.

Take the bus you say? with Translink being anti Disabled for buses by saying 400m is easy for anyone to walk to get to a bus, people like me have to rely on HandyDart as that 400m is too prohibitive to walk. I am told all the time "walk to the SkyTrain then go XXXX" Hello uh I can't walk the 800m to the SkyTrain when the bus is 100m from my house.

Point is HandyDart is needed and killing it would only isolate the disabled and senior far more then they are isolated now.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 7, 2012, 7:37 AM
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Stumbled on this, not really on topic in the viaduct thread where the Connaught bridge options of 1982 were discussed a few weeks ago... Sorry Harry, cancelling Expo and extending the Connaught Bridge's lifespan to 2012 to finance tunneling SkyTrain along Commercial Drive is what the citizens of 2012 call "Crazy Talk"

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ADFlAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RIwNAAAAIBAJ&pg=5917%2C93046
     
     
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Here's the Translink announcement on its decision to keep the Taxi Saver program on The Buzzer Blog: http://buzzer.translink.ca/index.php/2012/07/update-on-the-taxisaver-program/
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2012, 8:10 PM
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New Bus Shelter for new UBC Trolley Loop

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New bus shelters are being installed on University Blvd for the new trolley loop. Thought these were cool. Lots of construction going on at UBC...maybe I'll take some photos.

I took the following shot yesterday.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2012, 10:15 PM
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I came across these pictures looking at photos on Google Earth, old Vancouver buses in Sandon, BC.



     
     
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Old Posted Jul 13, 2012, 11:51 PM
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Cool looking shelter. Thanks for posting!
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2012, 5:43 PM
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Stumbled on this, not really on topic in the viaduct thread where the Connaught bridge options of 1982 were discussed a few weeks ago... Sorry Harry, cancelling Expo and extending the Connaught Bridge's lifespan to 2012 to finance tunneling SkyTrain along Commercial Drive is what the citizens of 2012 call "Crazy Talk"

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ADFlAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RIwNAAAAIBAJ&pg=5917%2C93046
Wow! Great article in general about businesses who wanted the train underground through Commercial Drive. Fears of businesses suffering/closing down etc. Pretty much the same stuff we hear today.

In other news, on page 67, phone booth local calls went from 10¢ to 25¢ and bus rides were 60¢!

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ADFlAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RIwNAAAAIBAJ&pg=969%2C368225
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2012, 7:16 PM
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Wow! Great article in general about businesses who wanted the train underground through Commercial Drive. Fears of businesses suffering/closing down etc. Pretty much the same stuff we hear today.
It also set up a 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 match between the City and the Province which then resulted in no high density transit-oriented development at Broadway & Commercial.

See the "Introduction" and the "Thrust of the Plan" in the Broadway Station precinct guidelines:

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/guidelines/B020.pdf
     
     
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I can't say whether those developments from the past are helping us today. Every time I pass by that area I just want to leave it so quick...
     
     
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Wow! Great article in general about businesses who wanted the train underground through Commercial Drive. Fears of businesses suffering/closing down etc. Pretty much the same stuff we hear today.

In other news, on page 67, phone booth local calls went from 10¢ to 25¢ and bus rides were 60¢!

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=ADFlAAAAIBAJ&sjid=RIwNAAAAIBAJ&pg=969%2C368225
I'm more impressed by 17.5% GICs!! In a time where mortgages were 20+%, but then again one could buy a house in Calgary for about $30k. Not sure about Vancouver area at the time. Surrey must've been super cheap.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 16, 2012, 8:46 PM
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I'm more impressed by 17.5% GICs!! In a time where mortgages were 20+%, but then again one could buy a house in Calgary for about $30k. Not sure about Vancouver area at the time. Surrey must've been super cheap.
Inflation was going nuts at the same time though. A quick google says roughly 11% inflation rate.
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I'm more impressed by 17.5% GICs!! In a time where mortgages were 20+%, but then again one could buy a house in Calgary for about $30k. Not sure about Vancouver area at the time. Surrey must've been super cheap.
My parents bought their first home in east Burnaby in late '82 or early '83 and it was about 100K, and almost 40 years old, so the area was definitely more expensive than Calgary. Surrey was definitely cheaper, but I don't know roughly how much.
     
     
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According to an article in the Winnipeg Free Press, Translink has placed an order with New Flyer for 42 new buses initially with the potentially of 87 buses if the contract is totally fulfilled. the buses are to be used in West Vancouver and Richmond.
     
     
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getting back to subway trains for a moment ....

Recently, it was commented here that the Rotem trains used on the Canada Line, are "heavy rail" and this gave a more "corporate" feeling to the Canada Line, as well as more passenger space.

Long ago, when Skytrain Expo Line first opened, I read that although the trains were "medium capacity" and not heavy rail (like the Canada Line) that ........ and these were the exact printed words, the Skytrain would one day be be capable of "carrying mature, 'second-generation' trains."

Is this true? Any comments? I'd love to know; and I'd love to see heavy-rail cars on the Skytrain
     
     
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