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Old Posted May 24, 2012, 7:48 PM
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Here's a recent precedent. Courtesy of Clark Wilson ...
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BC Supreme Court: Applying Sharbern, Delays Must be Material

In 299 Burrard Residential Limited Partnership v. Essalat, which was released on July 26, 2011, the buyer purchased a $6 million unit in the Fairmont Pacific Rim Residences in August, 2007, and refused to complete in April, 2010. The developer sued to keep the $1.1 million deposit.

The buyer raised a REDMA defence, arguing that the developer should have filed an amendment when it found out that completion would likely be delayed from the estimated date of September 2009 (as shown in the disclosure statement provided at the time of sale) to December 2009. The buyer relied on the decisions in Chameleon Talent and Maguire, in both of which courts found contracts unenforceable because substantial delays in completion dates were not brought to buyers' attention via amendments to disclosure statements.

This is the first B.C. case considering the SCC decision in Sharbern (discussed above) and the court found that although Sharbern was decided with respect to the Real Estate Act, rather than REDMA, it was applicable to the extent that the Court "addressed the elements necessary to establish that there had been a false or misleading statement of a material fact in a disclosure statement" and "gave some guidance as to the general approach courts should take in considering issues arising under regulatory legislation such as REDMA".

The court held that, although REDMA expressly defined "material fact", Sharbern was relevant to determining "whether a statement contained in a disclosure statement concerning a material fact is false or misleading".
Relying on Sharbern, the court held that to succeed, the buyer had to establish either "as a matter of common sense" or on evidence that "there was a substantial likelihood that the undisclosed delay in completion would have had actual significance to a reasonable purchaser in making a decision whether to purchase a unit."

The court expressly rejected the buyer's argument that "anything more than a trivial change in the completion date meant that the statement contained in the Disclosure Statement had become false and that the plaintiff was therefore required to file an amendment to the Disclosure Statement". On the contrary, the court agreed that the word "estimated" used in the disclosure statement indicated that there was some possibility that actual completion date could vary.

Although the court did find that at the time that the buyer signed the purchase agreement the developer was already aware of the likely delay, it nevertheless distinguished Chameleon and Maquire and found that there was no material misrepresentation. The key was that "in this case there is no evidence that the delay that was experienced was in any way unusual or arose from anything other than the normal construction delays that a person would reasonably expect to be encountered in a construction project of this scale." There was no evidence that such a "delay would have assumed actual significance in a reasonable investor’s decision whether to purchase".

Furthermore, under Sharbern, the court also considered "surrounding circumstances" and took into account that the buyer's real estate agent was informed of December completion date prior to the execution of the purchase agreement, and that when the developer advised buyers of delay in September, 2009, it received no complaints. Although neither of these facts were conclusive because the court had to consider materiality from the perspective of a theoretical, reasonable buyer, they informed the court as to what may have been expected by buyers.

At the end, the court found that the developer was entitled to keep the deposit.
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Old Posted May 25, 2012, 5:49 PM
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Also see the recent decision in the Onni case (released May 23).

http://www.courts.gov.bc.ca/jdb-txt/...12BCSC0764.htm

In this one several people completed their purchases but learned about 10 months after completion that they were never provided with an amendment to the DS. Courts ruled that section 21 of REDMA allowed for the cancellation of the sale and return of the purchase price.

Onni sought occupational rent but lost.
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So is the building finished?
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2012, 7:49 PM
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So is the building finished?
No. Some exterior work to be finished and much interior work to be completed.
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2012, 8:54 PM
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No. Some exterior work to be finished and much interior work to be completed.
Hardcore. It's been about a year and a half since the top floor was poured. The Mark was still excavating back then.
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Old Posted Jun 5, 2012, 9:11 PM
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Hardcore. It's been about a year and a half since the top floor was poured. The Mark was still excavating back then.
They seem to be moving VERY slowly.
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People still not even moved in?
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 9:24 PM
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People still not even moved in?
Lord no. They have to be at least a few more months away. I can still see stacks of drywall in about a third of the building.
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 9:25 PM
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Lord no. They have to be at least a few more months away. I can still see stacks of drywall in about a third of the building.
Ever since the hotel completed, it seems that work has slowed to a snails pace on the tower above!
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Old Posted Jul 3, 2012, 9:28 PM
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That is insane. The superstructure has been complete for like a year!
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People waiting to move in must be so pissed off! I am as well, just from having to see this tower all black every night.
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There must be some people moving in already though. I saw some furniture in a few suites and balconies from my office.

I do agree that the turnover for the units in this building is ridiculously slow. For at least 3 million dollars a unit, you would think they would hurry it up a bit....unless the units have been ready for a while and the owners simply do not live there...
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I don't know what you guys are complaining about. It hasn't even been five years since this building was first announced.

Geeze give it a chance.
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I don't know what you guys are complaining about. It hasn't even been five years since this building was first announced.

Geeze give it a chance.
Talked to a couple who are waiting for their unit to be completed. They are living at the Hotel until its done (not sure if that was part of their deal) -- said they were told they would be able to move-in in October.
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2012, 3:13 PM
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There must be some people moving in already though. I saw some furniture in a few suites and balconies from my office.
Not so sure about that. Every single floor is under construction. There ARE what looks like two suites finished in the bottom third of the tower that look south and east. They suspiciously look like show suites, because the floors above, below and to the side are all still under construction.
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Not so sure about that. Every single floor is under construction. There ARE what looks like two suites finished in the bottom third of the tower that look south and east. They suspiciously look like show suites, because the floors above, below and to the side are all still under construction.
Remember that there are also offices in the building. I have a client who has an office there (around about the low double-digits) and their office has been up and running for a few months. So not every single floor is under construction.
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Remember that there are also offices in the building. I have a client who has an office there (around about the low double-digits) and their office has been up and running for a few months. So not every single floor is under construction.
That must be one heck of an office I'm looking at in the tower then, what with it's clearly visible (and quite likely staged) bedroom and all. Just sayin'.
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2012, 7:39 PM
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Remember that there are also offices in the building. I have a client who has an office there (around about the low double-digits) and their office has been up and running for a few months. So not every single floor is under construction.
The office space is, IIRC, a) all owned by the BC College of Physicians and Surgeons and b) stops at the top of the hotel. Above the heritage hotel roof height is all residential...
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The office space is, IIRC, a) all owned by the BC College of Physicians and Surgeons and b) stops at the top of the hotel. Above the heritage hotel roof height is all residential...
Definitely correct about the latter, and the space I'm referencing is in the tower, not the office/hotel podium.
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Not so sure about that. Every single floor is under construction. There ARE what looks like two suites finished in the bottom third of the tower that look south and east. They suspiciously look like show suites, because the floors above, below and to the side are all still under construction.
I knew I should have taken a photo this morning just to prove that there are people already moving in the building (or at the very least, the furniture is being setup). I hope the weather is just as gorgeous tomorrow so I'll just try to do it then. And no its more than just two suites on the south and east side. From my office it would have been the northeast side of the tower that I'm seeing (which sadly is the ugly side).
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