The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[michael_d40]

Looks like Gap is finally opening an Outlet store here at East Point since they are hiring;

https://gapinc.taleo.net/careersection/10040/jobdetail.ftl?job=523566&src=JB-10324

[southsider_1036]

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[cdnguys]

Canadian Blood Services setting up call centre at their University Ave location. 50 employees including some registered nurses. More than makes up for 17 lost lab positions.

[ThomasG]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Canadian Blood Services setting up call centre at their University Ave location. 50 employees including some registered nurses. More than makes up for 17 lost lab positions.

Oh joy! just what this city needs, more call centers.

[KnoxfordGuy]

The way the Saint John economy is right now, I wouldn't be too picky about the jobs coming to your city *tisk tisk tisk*

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by ThomasG

Oh joy! just what this city needs, more call centers.

I think a CBS call centre would be more secure, stable and a better work environment than most outbound sweat shops in the province.....

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by ThomasG

Oh joy! just what this city needs, more call centers.

I'm confident there will be 50 people plus their families that will disagree with you.

[Helladog]

Just to give developers an idea of what to do...(notice how close Peel Plaza looks to the concept drawings).





Photos: Saint John Waterfront Development

[Wrightguy0]

That Looks Fantastic, I really hope they break ground on that soon!

[DizzyEdge]

When cruise ship passengers disembark are there any focused parts of the uptown that they tend to wander (or are herded) to, or do they just disperse and flow everywhere?

[Helladog]

Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

When cruise ship passengers disembark are there any focused parts of the uptown that they tend to wander (or are herded) to, or do they just disperse and flow everywhere?

Someone else may be able to give you more detailed info, I'm definitely no expert here, but from my limited knowledge and observation, it seems passengers are encouraged to join tour groups which may go anywhere from the uptown to outside the city, depending upon what they want to see.

Other than that, a huge number that arrive at Water Street, walk to Market Square, Brunswick Square and City Market,while checking out King Street and Prince William Street shops.

[CdnEh]

Originally Posted by Helladog

Someone else may be able to give you more detailed info, I'm definitely no expert here, but from my limited knowledge and observation, it seems passengers are encouraged to join tour groups which may go anywhere from the uptown to outside the city, depending upon what they want to see.

Other than that, a huge number that arrive at Water Street, walk to Market Square, Brunswick Square and City Market,while checking out King Street and Prince William Street shops.

It seems a lot of them are herded west as well - there are always huge amount of buses in the Martello Tower parking lot

[JHikka]

There are a lot of tour buses Uptown when a cruise ship does arrive. A lot go to Reversing Falls, Martello Tower, etc. The furthest i've known of one going was to St. Martins.

For those that don't jump on buses they usually walk around Market Square, Brunswick Square, King Street, Loyalist House, and all of the North-South Heritage streets (Prince William, Germain, Camarthan). If you see any of the pink double-decker buses they are usually carrying tourists. You can see them anywhere from Reversing Falls to Rockwood Park and Fort Howe.

[MonctonRad]

If Fundy Quay ends up looking like this, it would be fantastic for the uptown area. The cruise ship passengers would love this too.

I wonder how much the burgeoning cruise ship industry is influencing the renewed interest in this project?

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

I wonder how much the burgeoning cruise ship industry is influencing the renewed interest in this project?

Probably a fair amount given the amount of street level commercial in many of those buildings. I understand the importance of the cruise ship passengers to the local economy but at the same time we should be aware of pandering to them too much at the expense of the residents of the city in which this development is actually taking place.

[kwajo]

Yeah I couldn't care less about the cruise ship passengers, to me projects like Fundy Quay need to incorporate hundreds of residential units if they're to be considered a positive for our Uptown core. A myriad of retail and office spaces will be useless without a steady growth in neighbourhood population to go with them.

[dhottawa729]

Originally Posted by kwajo

Yeah I couldn't care less about the cruise ship passengers, to me projects like Fundy Quay need to incorporate hundreds of residential units if they're to be considered a positive for our Uptown core. A myriad of retail and office spaces will be useless without a steady growth in neighbourhood population to go with them.

Agreed. More high-quality residential downtown is essential and will naturally promote non-residential growth that both the tourists and residents themselves can make use of. I'm also very suprised over the lack of median-income high-rise rental apartments right in the core.

[ErickMontreal]

Saint John plans waterfront redevelopment
City plans to add retail, commercial, residential properities on old Coast Guard

CBC News
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 10:28 AM AT
Last Updated: Jul 3, 2012 10:22 AM AT


Saint John is planning to add residential, commercial and retail properties to the old Coast Guard site. Saint John is planning to add residential, commercial and retail properties to the old Coast Guard site. (CBC)

Saint John is hoping to cash in on developing the old Coast Guard site where it would like to add new retail, residential and commercial properties on the waterfront property.

The city completed payments on the former Coast Guard site on Friday and later this summer it will announce a multi-million dollar deal to develop it.

Saint John bought the prime waterfront property from the Department of Fisheries and Oceans for $2.8 million in 2011.

Kent MacIntyre, the general manager of the Saint John Waterfront Development Corp., said a plan to add residential, commercial and retail properties will bring in at least $1 million in tax revenue for the city.

He also said it will generate additional revenue when the prime piece of real estate is sold and developed.

“Any kind of development like that, it will be in the range of a minimum $70-million development of the site,” he said.

The waterfront development corporation says the plan is to eventually connect the property with the city's current pedway system.

Coun. Shirley McAlary said the property will be a significant addition to the city. She said the newly-acquired piece of real estate will go a long way in attracting both people and business to the area.

"I know it will bring tax revenue in for the city of Saint John but it does so much more than that,” she said.

The former Saint John mayor said the city has been trying to acquire the waterfront property for years.

"Not only will the city get the money from the land once it's developed — and they'll get the taxes from the land — but it will be just a wonderful assets for the city because it's going to bring people here,’ McAlary said.

[kwajo]

Can't say I'm a fan of connecting the coast guard site to the pedway system either, it adds a lot of cost to the project while taking away from the vibrancy of the streets in and around it. Water Street has huge potential and is looking better and better recently, why ruin that potential with an inside connection to Market Square?

[JHikka]

I think the Pedway connection referenced is mostly just a connection from Market Square/The Delta underground to somewhere inside the Coast Guard site. I agree that it will increase costs (perhaps unnecessarily) but it would also be nice to have an indoor route from the buildings on the Coast Guard site to other buildings uptown. Walking the Pedway system from City Market to Market Square is great in the winter. In the summer, with so many cruise ship passengers out and about, I don't think the Pedway system takes away from the vibrancy of the uptown streetscape at all.

I'm getting really nervous about this development. Like i've said before, we really can't mess this opportunity up.