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Old Posted Jun 29, 2012, 2:31 PM
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I feel terrible for Boucherville (where my family's from) for being absorbed by the blob that is Longueuil. Boucherville has one of Quebec's oldest vieux village. I think it's 300 y.o. Really neat to walk around it and see the tiny streets that are basically 1 lane wide and abut directly to the houses. There's a butcher / grocer there that my grandma would always send us to to go get la commande that's been there for generations named Mr. Provost.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2012, 3:26 PM
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I feel terrible for Boucherville (where my family's from) for being absorbed by the blob that is Longueuil. Boucherville has one of Quebec's oldest vieux village. I think it's 300 y.o. Really neat to walk around it and see the tiny streets that are basically 1 lane wide and abut directly to the houses. There's a butcher / grocer there that my grandma would always send us to to go get la commande that's been there for generations named Mr. Provost.
OK, a few points on this.

First of all, Boucherville is no longer part of the new merged big City of Longueuil. It was part of it for only a few years and when the Charest Liberals allowed for demergers, Boucherville became its own city again.

As for sprawly development in Boucherville, the smaller city did not need big bad Longueuil and did almost all of that on its own. It sprawled way before its short-lived merger with Longueuil and this sprawl has continued since it demerged.

We get this blame game in my City of Gatineau as well where people in the Aylmer sector (which also has a historic centre) complain that the merger is what brought on the sprawl, but in fact it was just as sprawly prior to the merger, and most of the sprawl that has been *allowed* by Gatineau was already in the zoning plans of the former City of Aylmer that Gatineau simply grandfathered. If anything, the new Gatineau is these days imposing a (slightly) more compact urban form than the old cities did.

Boucherville and Aylmer not dissimilar to many former small towns with historic centres near Toronto like Whitby, Brampton, Richmond Hill that have an old-style downtown surrounded by a ton of car-centric sprawl.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2012, 3:38 PM
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I feel terrible for Boucherville (where my family's from) for being absorbed by the blob that is Longueuil. Boucherville has one of Quebec's oldest vieux village. I think it's 300 y.o. Really neat to walk around it and see the tiny streets that are basically 1 lane wide and abut directly to the houses. There's a butcher / grocer there that my grandma would always send us to to go get la commande that's been there for generations named Mr. Provost.
Yeah Acajack is right, it was merged to Longueuil on Jan 1., 2002, but voted to demerge from Longueuil on Jan. 1, 2006. The forced municipal mergers by the PQ was one of the reasons the Charest Liberals got elected in 2003. All the cities in white on the map I posted were part of Longueuil starting in 2002 but demerged in 2006, and still retain some Longueuil public services (transit/police/fire, etc).
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Perhaps more than any other photo, this signifies the grittier parts of Quebec suburbia:


Everyone that lives or has lived in the province knows what I am talking about.
The dreary landscape. Winter and cracked roads and corn-snow with grit. Some shitty walkup apartments in the background. The crappy church nobody attends. Some greasy cassecroute with picnic tables and crude drawings of hotdogs, fries and subs. The special "Deux hotdogs + Patates". Canted street signs. Naked overhead power lines. All that is missing are those horrible driveway tents to keep off the snow...wait a minute, is that one there in the background?
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Subdivisions by Rush contains a bunch of great examples

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Outstanding background music. I spent the last ten minutes perusing through the uglies of this thread with subdivisions playing in the background. Northern Scarberia. Magnottaland. Bernardoburgh.
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I see you're both right. But Boucherville being sprawly at the edges and becoming its own entity once again is beside the point. Longueuil next to the Metro is the biggest commie block of Quebec.




And mullets are still coupe Longueuil!!!



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Another Longueuil ugly I just discovered was a restaurant. And to think all these years i honestly thought it was a public toilet by the river.

     
     
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The dreary landscape. Winter and cracked roads and corn-snow with grit. Some shitty walkup apartments in the background. The crappy church nobody attends. Some greasy cassecroute with picnic tables and crude drawings of hotdogs, fries and subs. The special "Deux hotdogs + Patates". Canted street signs. Naked overhead power lines. All that is missing are those horrible driveway tents to keep off the snow...wait a minute, is that one there in the background?
These really are ubiquitous on La Rive Sud. Boucherville has its own share. Don't forget the fact they all sell snow cones as a cheap substitute for slurpies too!
     
     
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Another Longueuil ugly I just discovered was a restaurant. All these years i honestly thought it was a public toilet by the river.

Yeah, that's near the marina. I was never quite sure what it was... Are you in the Boucherville area at the moment?

You should also check out Old La Prairie and Victoria Avenue in St. Lambert. (and rue St-Charles in Old Longueuil between Joliette and d'Auvergne.)
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Care to explain? Just curious on your thoughts.
     
     
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Yeah, that's near the marina. I was never quite sure what it was... Are you in the Boucherville area at the moment?

You should also check out Old La Prairie and Victoria Avenue in St. Lambert. (and rue St-Charles in Old Longueuil between Joliette and d'Auvergne.)
No, I wish. The heat would be a nice vacation from the rain we're having in Calgary. I used to visit my mom's side of the family every summer in Boucherville but it's been about 4 years since I was last there. Are those streets you mentioned ugly parts or nice ones? I know the vieux village in Longueuil is actually nice. Bus trips through the rest of it are another story.
     
     
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OMG that is such an incredible opening clip!

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There are many parts of Thunder Bay that look very much like this, complete with all the features you mention.



Those shitty little confectionaries are some of the best burger joints in town. Coney burgers is our Poutine.
     
     
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No, I wish. The heat would be a nice vacation from the rain we're having in Calgary. I used to visit my mom's side of the family every summer in Boucherville but it's been about 4 years since I was last there. Are those streets you mentioned ugly parts or nice ones? I know the vieux village in Longueuil is actually nice. Bus trips through the rest of it are another story.
Those are all nice streets. Rue St-Charles is the heart of the old district of Longueuil, which has a lot of small shops and restaurants and some very old buildings. I would say all of St-Lambert is attractive, and was developed as a streetcar suburb (mostly attractive brick buildings built before the 1950s) and Victoria is the "main street". Old La Prairie is small, but is really worth a visit, it is quite pretty in a small Quebec town kind of way (dominant church, narrow streets, quite old small stone and wood houses built close to the street), although the rest of La Prairie isn't anything to write home about.

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Here is another monstrosity in Longueuil (opened 2009)

http://www.cepaquette.com/wsf/realisations/

This one is in Salaberry-de-Valleyfield (location: http://goo.gl/maps/t1MD) I'm not sure if it is built yet though.

http://www.cepaquette.com/wsf/realisations/
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I took that picture back in late winter 2008. I think they repaved the road in the summer of that year.
http://goo.gl/maps/Wb4m
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Today I went to one of those "Casse-Croute" type places for an ice cream.

I saw this menu item advertised on the wall :

http://twicsy.com/i/TVBwj



http://possumland.blogspot.ca/2010/10/poutine-glacee-unexpected-frozen-treat.html
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Might as well merge these two threads now that the original has been found.
     
     
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From your link I found 'Place Pasteur'

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