Winnipeg Construction

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by jamiedavid exchange

unless manitoba accidently drills into a huge oil patch, all winnipegers can do is dream that portage place would ever look like calgary's downtown mall.

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[drew]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

Unless Manitoba accidently drills into a huge oil patch, all Winnipegers can do is DREAM that Portage Place would ever look like Calgary's downtown mall.

Maybe we can drill horizontally, and 🞵🞵🞵🞵 it out from under them...

[drew]

The next phase of the SKY condos on Waterfront is starting up.

Lots of equipment on site now, pre-cast piles, crane, etc.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by drew

Maybe we can drill horizontally, and 🞵🞵🞵🞵 it out from under them...

And then spend it on more freeways instead of rapid transit.

[Bdog]

Originally Posted by armorand93

And then spend it on more freeways instead of rapid transit.

"More freeways" would imply that we have "some" freeways already

[Bdog]

Originally Posted by vid

Also note the stub that is Portage Avenue.

Thanks for the info (and Drew and Andy too).

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by Bdog

"More freeways" would imply that we have "some" freeways already

Oh yes, Bishop Grandin! One cloverleaf per ten trafficlights

[c vist]

Originally Posted by drew

Pretty sure that's the reason behind the placement of the Esplanade Riel (it lines up perfectly with Broadway and Provencher)

I think its placement was in part to right a historical wrong. The wrong being Winnipeg giving St. Boniface the shaft with the placement of the Union Station, and it's obvious effects on access to and from the two cities.

You are totally correct. Ettiene Gaboury, the designer, told me that when the rail station was built, behind this the utilitarian storage yards were built. Prior to this the connection to St. Boniface was from the prominent Broadway stretch (which was a dense residential neighborhood). After the Provencher bridge was built, to quote Ettienne, you entered Winnipeg through the back door. You passed through an industrial area that was hardly scenic. St. Boniface saw this as a terrible insult. It was his intent to right this wrong.

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

Unless Manitoba accidently drills into a huge oil patch, all Winnipegers can do is DREAM that Portage Place would ever look like Calgary's downtown mall.

We actually do have a lot of OIL in this province, it is just not being tapped like North Dakota and Sask, same corner. Yes we have some wells from long ago, but it is just been in the last decade they have started actually drilling more.

I suspect this is due to the fact like North Dakota and Sask it was too costly to extract back when oil was worthless. Alberta's oil is easy to get for now. But I am sure in another 10 years we'll see and oil boom here as well plus Natural gas which we have a 🞵🞵🞵🞵 load of.

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by armorand93

And then spend it on more freeways instead of rapid transit.

I would be just happy if they just fixed some of the craters on the roads. I been all over the USA and Canada and all the freeways and tollways, never really liked them, sure they are great to get anywhere FAST, but I rather enjoy my drive. Once you put in a freeway you just kill off neighborhoods. Perfect example is the Transcan Hwy here in Mb, look at all the towns they bypassed, in 5 years of being bypassed, they all went to 🞵🞵🞵🞵. I am 40 and remember these towns actually being very active.

Plus we do have a Perimeter Hwy, which very few cities were smart enough to build. It just needs to stop flooding so we can put the rest of the overpasses in.

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

I would be just happy if they just fixed some of the craters on the roads. I been all over the USA and Canada and all the freeways and tollways, never really liked them, sure they are great to get anywhere FAST, but I rather enjoy my drive. Once you put in a freeway you just kill off neighborhoods. Perfect example is the Transcan Hwy here in Mb, look at all the towns they bypassed, in 5 years of being bypassed, they all went to 🞵🞵🞵🞵. I am 40 and remember these towns actually being very active.

Plus we do have a Perimeter Hwy, which very few cities were smart enough to build. It just needs to stop flooding so we can put the rest of the overpasses in.

The Perimetre, flooding?!

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by armorand93

The Perimetre, flooding?!

parts of it flooded last yr

[ILYR]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

We actually do have a lot of OIL in this province, it is just not being tapped like North Dakota and Sask, same corner. Yes we have some wells from long ago, but it is just been in the last decade they have started actually drilling more.

I suspect this is due to the fact like North Dakota and Sask it was too costly to extract back when oil was worthless. Alberta's oil is easy to get for now. But I am sure in another 10 years we'll see and oil boom here as well plus Natural gas which we have a 🞵🞵🞵🞵 load of.

Not sure what you mean by "a lot of OIL", but Manitoba has nowhere near the amount of oil reserves as Alberta or Saskatchewan. This is simply a fact of geology. Manitoba is at the very eastern edge of the basin and only the southwestern part of the province has any potential for oil. I agree that in the last decade Manitoba has increased it oil production, but the province will never have an oil boom like Saskatchewan (or Alberta).

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by ILYR

Not sure what you mean by "a lot of OIL", but Manitoba has nowhere near the amount of oil reserves as Alberta or Saskatchewan. This is simply a fact of geology. Manitoba is at the very eastern edge of the basin and only the southwestern part of the province has any potential for oil. I agree that in the last decade Manitoba has increased it oil production, but the province will never have an oil boom like Saskatchewan (or Alberta).

Don't we have other things such as an arctic port? Natural gas? What's that going to rake in over the next few years?

[Shinook]

Originally Posted by ILYR

Not sure what you mean by "a lot of OIL", but Manitoba has nowhere near the amount of oil reserves as Alberta or Saskatchewan. This is simply a fact of geology. Manitoba is at the very eastern edge of the basin and only the southwestern part of the province has any potential for oil. I agree that in the last decade Manitoba has increased it oil production, but the province will never have an oil boom like Saskatchewan (or Alberta).

No, Manitoba doesn't LIKELY have the same amount of oil and natural gas as Alberta, however there is still a fair amount that has yet to be tapped. I work in the oil and gas industry and have talked to various people, all with knowledge of wells being drilled as far east as Manitou and Morden (which makes perfect sense if you think of the amount of marine fossils in the area, what would you logically associate those kinds of large organic deposits with?) back in the 30s, all producing but being quickly capped because the technology wasn't there at the time to make it economically viable. However, with the fracking technology that we have today, those wells would be completely viable. I think the issues is that there is still not much incentive for companies to explore further east fo where they are today. Well, give them that incentive and you would be amazed at what they can accomplish. I suspect that in a few years time the exploration push will continue further east and north in Manitoba.

So again, Manitoba will never be Alberta, but don't underestimate what your province have for oil and gas production, because it likely has much more than you could ever anticipate.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Bluenote

I would be just happy if they just fixed some of the craters on the roads. I been all over the USA and Canada and all the freeways and tollways, never really liked them, sure they are great to get anywhere FAST, but I rather enjoy my drive. Once you put in a freeway you just kill off neighborhoods. Perfect example is the Transcan Hwy here in Mb, look at all the towns they bypassed, in 5 years of being bypassed, they all went to 🞵🞵🞵🞵. I am 40 and remember these towns actually being very active.

Plus we do have a Perimeter Hwy, which very few cities were smart enough to build. It just needs to stop flooding so we can put the rest of the overpasses in.

Most of the cities I've been to have free-ways and great neighbourhoods, sure some cities are chopped up because of the way freeways were implemented but a lot them would still be 🞵🞵🞵🞵 without them.

Don't know what part of the perimeter highway your referring to about flooding or did you mean the floodway?

[Biff]

Heritage Landing is out for tender. Approx 265 ft........so hopefully by the end of the year there will be a 4th tower crane up in Winnipeg. (actually possibly 5 if Women's is up then.)

[alittle1]

The one thing that Manitoba always had plenty of was manure!


With that being said, natural gas plays a close second.

Finally, I'm still waiting for the diamond mines to open up in Sandilands.

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by JamieDavid Exchange

Unless Manitoba accidently drills into a huge oil patch, all Winnipegers can do is DREAM that Portage Place would ever look like Calgary's downtown mall.

That's true in a sense, but it is not the case that all wealth in the world is accidental or dependent on random occurrences of natural resources. Within Manitoba itself, places such as Steinbach and Winkler are wealthy and rapidly growing. At least in the case of Steinbach, this prosperity exists despite the fact that the town has few natural advantages and a peripheral location on the margin of the arable portion of the province. The reason for the prosperity of such places is the behaviour of their people, not natural resources such as oil. The belief that prosperity derives mainly from chance events like lucky oil strikes, rather than from industriousness and the wise use of whatever resources that we do have, isn't one that our forefathers in the province would have accepted, I don't think. Probably we shouldn't, either.

[spiritedenergy]

Originally Posted by alittle1

The one thing that Manitoba always had plenty of was manure!


With that being said, natural gas plays a close second.

Finally, I'm still waiting for the diamond mines to open up in Sandilands.

What is all this craze about opening mines and wells in the pristine environment?

When and if manure transport becomes economically viable, then yes, it can be a great resource