Future Canadian Skylines - Page 73

Ramako · #**1441** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 11:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by TallBob

Not including New York city, Toronto's second to none in U/C or proposed high-rises! (In NA) Chicago is starting to get a bunch of new proposals lined up but there a couples years out yet.

Including New York, we're second to none in U/C or proposed high-rises in North America.

caltrane74 · #**1442** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 11:28 AM**

Well under-construction i know we are killing it. Didnt know we have more proposals than New York.

Thats a cool fact.

The_Architect · #**1443** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 11:53 AM**

But not nearly as tall..

caltrane74 · #**1444** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 1:20 PM**

True enough, but the context was under construction and proposed developments. - I hesitated at first when responding, given that New York was constructing more massive developments than Toronto at the very top end, so felt that was enough to give them the pass.

Nouvellecosse · #**1445** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 6:54 PM**

Why isn't Toronto constructing more massive developments?

caltrane74 · #**1446** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 7:03 PM**

We don't have the demand/capacity for the type of Office Towers being constructed at World Trade Center?

Nouvellecosse · #**1447** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 8:50 PM**

Is that a question or a statement?

DrNest · #**1448** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 8:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

We don't have the demand/capacity for the type of Office Towers being constructed at World Trade Center?

Not as such. But a number of companies are consolidating their numerous offices around the GTA into one building, so it wouldn't surprise me if, in the next five years or so there will be demand for a supertall office complex for one or two companies.

Nouvellecosse · #**1449** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 9:05 PM**

Also, office space isn't the only reason to build large projects. There are a number examples around the world and even here in NA (Trump Chicago?) in which super talls are not office, or only partially office.

dleung · #**1450** Posted **Jun 11, 2012, 9:30 PM**

4 major office towers have been constructed in 4 years, and 2 more in construction. Surely Toronto is punching above its weight... at least in terms of quantity.

The_Architect · #**1451** Posted **Jun 12, 2012, 9:29 AM**

The Shard is mixed-use, same with John Hancock. That's the sort of thing I'd like to see be a supertall in Toronto, and the type of thing I think would make it possible.

NO BALCONIES though.

Ramako · #**1452** Posted **Jun 12, 2012, 2:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

Surely Toronto is punching above its weight... at least in terms of quantity.

Based on what? Don't forget that due to the recession in '90s there wasn't any significant office construction in Toronto for almost a couple of decades. I've got to imagine that there was a backlogged demand for space as a result.

I think it's telling that Brookfield is moving ahead with Bay-Adelaide East. I'm sure that Brookfield has a solid grasp of the health of Toronto's office market.

whiteford · #**1453** Posted **Jun 12, 2012, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by dleung

4 major office towers have been constructed in 4 years, and 2 more in construction. Surely Toronto is punching above its weight... at least in terms of quantity.

Toronto is building tones of stuff. most cities in north America could only wish to have one tenth of what is being built in Toronto. or even Calgary for that matter. driving around Calgary is like driving around one big construction site it seems. haha

Ramako · #**1454** Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 3:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

from 3Dementia/maldive at ut.

Remember when this was just a vision of the future? This was from 2009.

Today, virtually everything in that rendering (with the exception of Signature Tower and 45 Bay, which don't make huge impacts from that angle, and a slightly shorter and newly designed One Bloor) has either been built or is well under construction. This will essentially be Toronto's skyline in a couple of years.

Perhaps we need another update to include all the proposals since then that will make a big impact from that angle. There are too many to count, but the ones that are already in sales include: Ten York, Massey Tower, 88 Scott, INDX, Karma, Casa II and Chaz on Charles. Those not in sales or which may still be a couple years off include: 50 Cumberland I & II, 50 Bloor, 460 Yonge, 501 Yonge I & II, 880 Bay, 43 Gerrard, 480 University and 90 Harbour I & II.

My dream of an unbroken wall of skyscrapers from the lake to Yorkville is surely coming to fruition.

The_Architect · #**1455** Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 4:08 PM**

Wow that's even missing quite a bit too... Picasso would also be visible from this angle, yes?

Ramako · #**1456** Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by The_Architect

Wow that's even missing quite a bit too... Picasso would also be visible from this angle, yes?

I suppose it would be, along with a lot of other projects in the Entertainment District, but I don't know if it will be tall enough to breach the skyline.

Ramako · #**1457** Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 5:15 PM**

This rendering from Traynor from two years ago is probably the most accurate depiction available of Toronto in 2014/2015 if we include only those projects that are already under construction (minus 880 Bay, plus Southcore Delta, plus RCMI Tower, plus a height increase to FIVE, plus a bunch of stuff in the Entertainment District).

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Originally Posted by Traynor

Here you go guys. This is the view of the North/South skyline from the West looking East. The Lake is on the far right and Young and Bloor is on the far left. I labeled one of the renders so Phil can see where everything is going. I also finished projects like the FCP re-clad, Ritz and TIFF just to clean the pic up.

The original photograph by Ramako is on the bottom.

Enjoy

(Original courtesy Ramako here on SSP http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...179351&page=45 )

Ramako · #**1458** Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 5:19 PM**

Alright, I'm kinda on an old future renderings kick now. This is Traynor again from two years ago. This is almost exactly what the classic view of the skyline will look like in a year or two (plus L Tower):

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Originally Posted by Traynor

I revised one of my renders from a while back.

I increased the heights of ICE I and II. As well I added Infinity 4 and the Southcore complex of the Delta Hotel and Bremner Tower.

(Original Courtesy Caltrane74)

craner · #**1459** Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 6:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by someone123

The Dartmouth skyline across from Halifax is in the process of changing dramatically. The current Dartmouth skyline is pretty limited, but SekishikiMeikaiHa recently posted a photo that shows the first almost completed phase of King's Wharf (two buildings -- one white building is visible next to the RBC building). Soon there will be four highrise buildings, which is a big change for Dartmouth, and so far they look surprisingly good.

Next year the developer plans to start on the 30 storey main tower. There will be on the order of a dozen new buildings in total, plus there is a development site across the street that might be developed as a highrise. Downtown Dartmouth might see its population just about double over the next few years (King's Wharf has about 1300 units).

Here's a picture of the King's Wharf model. Two buildings on the left are just about complete and two more are about the start. The 30 storey tower is not shown. The blocks at the bottom of the photo show the beginning of the existing downtown area which corresponds roughly to where the pyramid-shaped highrise (actually designed by Arthur Erickson) is in the skyline shot above.

Source

The "iconic" tower. Not sure if this is a final design:

kingswharf.ca

Right on!
My old home town getting some action.

craner · #**1460** Posted **Jun 15, 2012, 6:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by caltrane74

From Big Daddy at UT

Yorkville a couple years ago.

Yorkville of the future.. (including 50 Bloor and 1 Bloor East)

http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/showthr...ciates)/page28

This is Great!
I love how the now dominating 4S will be dwarfed when this is reality.

I'm a big fan of 4S - but a bigger fan of growing taller.