YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Further into the same link posted by hollywoodnorth, this article about Abbotsford Airport's goal clearly show the developing air market in the Lower Mainland. The seedlings of a future megalopolis, perhaps?


http://www.news1130.com/news/local/artic...ort-wants-routes-to-europe-india-toronto

Just like BLI, this is nothing new.... Has the media just completely run out of news items...

YXX has been talking India, Toronto etc for years and years and years... They had Toronto for awhile both Westjet and Air Canada quite a long time ago. It would be fascinating if somebody came up with a new story for a change.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Just like BLI, this is nothing new.... Has the media just completely run out of news items...

YXX has been talking India, Toronto etc for years and years and years... They had Toronto for awhile both Westjet and Air Canada quite a long time ago. It would be fascinating if somebody came up with a new story for a change.

I goofed again. I'm a baaaaaaaad boy .............

[deasine]

AC (not surprisingly) lost out its fight for service to DCA. Though, perhaps there may be future direct service to IAD.

Four Carriers Win Reagan Airport Slots By DOUG CAMERON

U.S. regulators on Monday selected four airlines to start new flights from Reagan National Airport after a fierce seven-way contest for access to the facility, just outside Washington, D.C.

Alaska Air Group Inc., ALK -0.67% JetBlue Airways Corp., JBLU -4.58% Southwest Airlines Co. LUV +0.31% and Virgin America were granted rights to each start a single daily flight.

Seven carriers had vied to take advantage of loosening restrictions on flights between northern Virginia's Reagan National and longer-haul destinations such as the West Coast, sparking a lobbying battle involving airlines and cities keen to secure or retain access to the nation's capital.

Four other airlines that already fly to Reagan were allowed to start longer flights, but they had to drop a service to a closer-in city as Reagan is congested and can only add a limited number of new services.

Air Canada, AC.B.T -3.33% Sun Country Airlines and the Frontier Airlines unit of Republic Airways Holdings Inc. RJET +0.20% lost out in the contest for new Reagan flights.

Alaska will launch a flight to Portland, Ore., JetBlue will fly to San Juan, Puerto Rico, Southwest is adding an Austin, Texas, service and Virgin America is cleared to operate to its San Francisco base. All except Southwest had applied to launch two daily flights but received permission to start just one.

The U.S Department of Transportation's move will nearly double the number of flights allowed to operate from Reagan to airports more than 1,250 miles away, diluting restrictions in place since the 1960s.

Four incumbent carriers at Reagan—units of AMR Corp. and United Continental Holdings Inc., UAL -0.37% Delta Air Lines Inc. DAL +0.44% and US Airways Group Inc. LCC -0.66% —are splitting four new round-trip flights between them.

Airlines are allowed to operate only narrow-body planes on all of the new routes, with new restrictions also limiting the time of day that flights can operate.

Write to Doug Cameron at [email protected]

(Via Wall Street Journal)

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

I goofed again. I'm a baaaaaaaad boy .............

Not you! I meant the media... it would be nice for a change if they actually printed a newsworthy story not some rehashed rubbish over and over again.

[Gordon]

If we can't get year-around YVR- DCA then seasonal YVR - IAD would also work

[rxp]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-canadian-airline-begins-daily-flights-from-ohare-20120515,0,6236717.story

direct flights to Ohare on westjet from Van

[Bigtime]

They couldn't bother to get a stock photo of a WestJet aircraft? Instead they use a FS screenshot?

[SpongeG]

Virgin airline starts next week, may 24, - hopefully can get down and watch one land


pic by me

[hollywoodnorth]

Fri, May 18: Sichaun airline will now start flying into Vancouver International Airport - boosting tourism from China.

http://www.globaltvbc.com/video/index.html?v=pEKtWyOceoIcGgSEaR4PnDpqRo2JUYDy#stories/video

[Hot Rod]

wonderful - especially considering my wife is from Sichuan!

Too bad Sichuan Airline is not Star Alliance. But it is great for Vancouver to get another foreign carrier and something that isn't Star.

Isn't there a plan for Xiamen Airlines nonstop as well as Hainan?

[trofirhen]

Great news about Sichuan Airlines! Hopefully, here's one that won't overfly into Toronto! Great news too about snazzy Virgin Atlantic to London. ... If only there were a couple more into Europe (and no I don't mean just Paris!!!)

[ACT7]

I wonder if this will eat into some other YVR Asian flights. As this will be almost purely O&D traffic, I'm not so sure it can last without any alliance for connecting traffic.

[Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by ACT7

I wonder if this will eat into some other YVR Asian flights. As this will be almost purely O&D traffic, I'm not so sure it can last without any alliance for connecting traffic.

it should not as it does not connect in PEK, PVG, or CAN. Those 3 already have flights and are all daily (or will be) or bi-daily nonstops to YVR.

Sichuan opens up an entirely new market route CTU-YVR, via Shenyang and expands YVR as a Star-Alliance hub. Entirely new market overall and the airplane to be used is A330-200, not too big to canibalize but big enough to establish the route. I'd expect if it is successful that it be nonstop CTU-YVR if Sichuan can get some of the 787's from Star-Alliance partner and flag carrier - Air China.

[red-paladin]

Richard Branson's airline opens Vancouver-London route
Round-trip 'Upper Class' Virgin Atlantic service to London set at $5,500

CBC News
Posted: May 24, 2012 6:28 AM PT
Last Updated: May 24, 2012 6:26 AM PT



British billionaire Sir Richard Branson is touching down in B.C.’s Lower Mainland Thursday to launch a new airline service between Vancouver and London.

Although announced last year, the Vancouver route had not become established prior to the arrival of the flamboyant businessman.

Travel agent Brad Davies said he is looking forward to offering the new travel option.

"I know for myself and my colleagues and competitors, we welcome Virgin with open arms. It's a world-class carrier and it certainly good there is competition," Davies said.

Although Virgin does offer some economy fares comparable to other airlines, it’s best known for its higher-end service.

Round-trip fares for flights to or from London in what Virgin calls its “Upper Class” section will start at more than $5,500.

For that, a traveller gets a seat that turns into a bed at the push of a button, complimentary limousine service to and from the airport and meals from an haute-cuisine menu, among other amenities.

Branson is famous for his publicity stunts and his adventurous projects, including failed attempts to circle the globe in a balloon and cross the Atlantic Ocean in a motorboat.

When Branson opened the Virgin record store in Vancouver in the 1990s, he rappelled down the side of the downtown building.

On Thursday, he’s sticking with a more conventional means of travel — aboard one of his airline’s fleet of 40 passenger jets.

From http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2012/05/23/bc-virgin-atlantic-branson.html

[hollywoodnorth]

New airline option
Virgin Atlantic's first landing in Vancouver could mark new savings for passengers


video story at >> http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/BC/1258521056/ID=2239004616

[deasine]

Originally Posted by hollywoodnorth

New airline option
Virgin Atlantic's first landing in Vancouver could mark new savings for passengers


video story at >> http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/BC/1258521056/ID=2239004616

I wonder where they got their statistics from, because AC prices to LHR during low season, direct, can get as low as $900. Moreover, Virgin Atlantic only brings increased competition to London and not to Europe: Virgin Atlantic is only international and has no short-haul and medium-haul flights. Ironically, it's feeder traffic from other parts of the UK actually comes from British Airways (and even when BMI existed under the Lufthansa family, it was British Airways that carried most of its connecting passengers).

[SpongeG]

a big chunk of the cost for london flights is the landing fee at heathrow its really expensive to land there

if those flight centre prices are to be believed they usually show it as $399 + $749 in taxes in fees - the fees and taxes are usually close to double the fare

anyway i flew virgin from london to joburg and at the time it was the cheapeast fare of all the options doing the same route by about 100 GBP

[st7860]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

a big chunk of the cost for london flights is the landing fee at heathrow its really expensive to land there

if those flight centre prices are to be believed they usually show it as $399 + $749 in taxes in fees - the fees and taxes are usually close to double the fare

anyway i flew virgin from london to joburg and at the time it was the cheapeast fare of all the options doing the same route by about 100 GBP

wow i checked out on expedia - flights from toronto to glasgow are just $727 including tax(june) - landing fees must be much lower there

[SpongeG]

sorry for going off topic but i saw this posted on facebook by someone i know - the fees to land in the states are crazy...

Flying from Toronto $311.62

Air Traveller Security Charge $ 24.20
NAV and Surcharges $ 35.00
GST $ 9.36
Harmonized Sales Tax $ 5.20
Airport Improvement Fee $ 40.00
US transportation Tax $ 34.10
US Agriculture Tax $ 10.22
US Immigration Tax $ 14.30
US Customs Processing Fee $ 11.24

Returning to Toronto $198.54

NAV and Surcharges $ 15.00
GST $ 7.16
Passenger Facility Charge $ 9.18
Sep 11th US Security Tax $ 5.10
US transportation Tax $ 34.10

[cornholio]

London is always pretty expensive. Anyone know what their landing fees actually break down to?

With airtransat and condor you can get tickets round trip for $500-$750 to Frankfurt or Amsterdam direct from Vancouver and that is even a further flight. London for example with airtransat is always atleast $200-300 more (Condor only flies to frankfurt as their a lufhansa company)