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Old Posted Apr 2, 2012, 6:59 PM
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As you know, at least there isn't a CVS on every street like there is here in DC.

Regarding downtown, does anyone have a recommendation for a nice but moderately-priced hotel? We're thinking of taking a trip to LA in July or August. I'm also interested to know whether the Getty museum is accessible via public transit (I don't mind taking the bus). Thanks!
The Ritz Milner on Flower between 8th and 9th street or Cecil Hotel/Stay on Main between 6th and 7th.

To get to the Getty Museum from downtown, take the Purple Line to Wilshire/Western, transfer to Metro Rapid 720. Get off at Wilshire/Westwood and transfer to Metro Rapid 761 towards Van Nuys. Get off at Getty Center Drive.
     
     
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As you know, at least there isn't a CVS on every street like there is here in DC.

Regarding downtown, does anyone have a recommendation for a nice but moderately-priced hotel? We're thinking of taking a trip to LA in July or August. I'm also interested to know whether the Getty museum is accessible via public transit (I don't mind taking the bus). Thanks!
The O Hotel is great! Location and price are wonderful
     
     
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The Chester Williams building looks wonderful! For a while, I was wondering if any work was still being done on it. Too bad the ground floor retail being a...Walmart. How underwhelming and anticlimactic, especially given there is already a Rite-Aid AND 7-11 across the street. I mean, it is more useful than another restaurant or bar, but still...
It's going to be a Walgreens. The Walmart is planned for Sunset/Chavez and Grand.
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Speaking of retail, new store opening up on 7th between Spring and Main, called 'Buttons and Bows'. It's some sort of vintage clothing/resale high end hipster concept. Whatever it is, it will be good for the area.
     
     
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Time to get this thread back on track with a good old-fashioned photo update.[/IMG]
TY, colemonkee! when this thread starts to get too OT or too full of stuff you want to red pen, I recommend adding photo spreads, as much & as many as possible. Short of posts about a groundbreaking of new devlpt, or unveiling of a new proj----which hasn't been happening too much lately----photo updates to me are the best way to bring this thread back to life.

the Genesis apt bldg looks perfectly fine to me, esp since it's a proj aimed at lower income tenants. It sure makes the portofino restaurant on the corner of 5th & main seem less lonely.

btw, I was reading reviews of that place & it's interesting that some customers say the outdoor seating area is ok now cuz the owner put up a high hedge. I guess ppl who'd dine outside near the sidewalk in the past ran the risk of being harassed by aggressive panhandlers or homeless types. Someone wrote the restaurant was very quiet----without any long waits for customers---during a recent art walk. The implication was the portofino doesn't have good word of mouth. If so, I'd hate for that corner to become vacant all over again. Poor word of mouth also would be quite different to what another Italian restaurant, colori kitchen, gets a few blocks away.

The outside of the Clark hotel is exactly as I recall it looking several months ago. I'm really astonished it still looks so rundown. What is with the owners?!

Why would they spend so much time & $$ fixing up the pool area on the rooftop of the annex to the south of the main bldg & do almost nothing to the exterior itself?! that doesn't make sense. I'm worried the owners are such novices or underfunded, their vision of a revived clark hotel won't last very long into the future. I sure hope I'm wrong, cuz it's way overdue for that part of Hill St to finally look decent.

I like what the owner is doing to the little bldg for the Kitchen Table. I remember it once looking so shacky, that I thought it would be easier to just tear it down & start anew. I remember a time not too long ago when the nearby Pete's was the only thing of value around there to passers bys & hungry customers. The march of time---waving bye bye to the bad ol days---is a very good thing.

TG the former parking lot directly across from city hall has been removed! That was the worse type of foreground or background for a bldg of importance, civic or otherwise. but as you say, it's a shame the site of the old state bldg wasn't cleared out & included with the rest of the makeover of that block of land.
     
     
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It's going to be a Walgreens. The Walmart is planned for Sunset/Chavez and Grand.
I meant Walgreens, and my comment clearly reflected that.
     
     
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I know a lot of you don't like this bldg but I think its an interesting looking design. And while it makes no real attempt to integrate with the surrounding structures, I think it works. And I agree with Illithid, those panels do not look like stucco........although I wouldn't care if they were stucco.



This is why I dig cities......big time. You're walking along.....the buildings all front the sidewalk the same way......no setbacks, built from lot line to lot line....then you run across this parking lot and a quirky bldg with big windows set to one side. An afterthought that was cheaply built but still works IMO. It will make a great restaurant. And this is one of the few times I don't mind the parking lot.
     
     
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FINALLY back to the old days where visual aides like PICTURES relay the progress of these projects a lot clearer . . . I would personally go around LA and photograph each site if I could but can't at the moment lol due to finances
     
     
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With so many projects on the horizon (and other projects continuing) and the demo of the Grand hotel, I think we'll start seeing more pics soon. Things should really pick up next year though.
     
     
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An update on the Federal Courthouse, from Curbed LA:

Downtown Courthouse Shortlist Announced

The US General Services Administration has released the shortlist of architecture firms in the running to design the Downtown Federal Courthouse project at First and Broadway. Although a few prominent LA firms were cut off from the original competition list, several local firms are still in the running. The final list includes Skidmore Owings and Merrill, 
Yazdani Studio and Gruen Associates, 
Brooks + Scarpa and HMC Architects, and 
NBBJ Architects (Yazdani and Brooks+Scarpa are based in LA. SOM and NBBJ are global firms with LA offices).
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An update on the Federal Courthouse, from Curbed LA:

Downtown Courthouse Shortlist Announced

The US General Services Administration has released the shortlist of architecture firms in the running to design the Downtown Federal Courthouse project at First and Broadway. Although a few prominent LA firms were cut off from the original competition list, several local firms are still in the running. The final list includes Skidmore Owings and Merrill, 
Yazdani Studio and Gruen Associates, 
Brooks + Scarpa and HMC Architects, and 
NBBJ Architects (Yazdani and Brooks+Scarpa are based in LA. SOM and NBBJ are global firms with LA offices).

I'm hoping for SOM or Yazdani Studio. Over the past few years both Yazdani Studio and SOM have put up really top notch stuff. I'd be happy with either.
     
     
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I'd go with Brooks+Scarpa or Yazdani over SOM. SOM's work tends to be generic and it doesn't pique any imagination. I suppose it's LA bias but at least the first two create dialogue.
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I'd go with Brooks+Scarpa or Yazdani over SOM. SOM's work tends to be generic and it doesn't pique any imagination. I suppose it's LA bias but at least the first two create dialogue.
Not so. SOM has done some amazing stuff over the past few years.







I'd be happy to see designs of this caliber in the Civic Center (not that there aren't already).
     
     
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Not to get too OT but any of the global firms (AECOM, Gensler, etc) could come up with designs like that and have. The point you've proven in the pictures is that they're competitive and have the man power to output taller designs.

But to go on about the courthouse itself, should a firm like SOM get the commission, I question how they're going to bring a set of unique ideas or compromise on design itself. Perhaps, I'm just questioning the identity that SOM would attempt to represent or if they're trying at all. I'm really left wondering what kind of proposal Morphosis and Maltzan (even with his stucco use) submitted. Mayne, considering his experience with civic projects should have been shortlisted but I don't know the involvement of politics of what went on so who knows. With that said, I'd go with either of the two I mentioned.
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Not to get too OT but any of the global firms (AECOM, Gensler, etc) could come up with designs like that and have. The point you've proven in the pictures is that they're competitive and have the man power to output taller designs.
If you look at the details of the buildings, you would see that they are very unique. Also, AECOM actually hasn't done many buildings. I believe they are more on the engineering side of things.
     
     
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This is why I dig cities......big time. You're walking along.....the buildings all front the sidewalk the same way......no setbacks, built from lot line to lot line....then you run across this parking lot and a quirky bldg with big windows set to one side. An afterthought that was cheaply built but still works IMO. It will make a great restaurant. And this is one of the few times I don't mind the parking lot.
I like the all-glass top floor. If they use the space as a restaurant or bar filled with diners, it would make a visual for people driving or walking by from where the photographer is standing.
     
     
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^ It's actually not glass, but clear plastic sheets, similar to the temporary covers brought out on restaurant patios around LA on rainy days, though the canopy is metal and more permanent looking. I imagine that on warmer days (the vast majority), the plastic will be removed or pinned up, and the space will be a covered open dining space, then they can bring them down and turn on heat lamps on colder, wet weather days. In any case, it definitely looks like it's meant to be a dining space, which is fantastic.

As for the short list selection of the Federal Courthouse, I'd wager that Morphosis either bowed out or had their submitted design eliminated due to real or perceived cost issues. Morphosis has an excellent track record for ground-breaking institutional buildings, but their designs are notorious for being difficult to engineer and expensive to build. With the reduced budget for this project, they were a long shot anyway.

As for Michael Maltzan, I'd bet that their lack of experience in completing high-rise buildings might have had a negative influence on their ability to make the short list. They've done some cool institutional work, but mostly low and mid-rise. I'd bet the short list winners like SOM and NBBJ were chosen for their ability to design and engineer large institutional buildings with pleasing, but not particularly daring designs in a relatively efficient manner.
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On ABC this morning they said AEG was suppose to make an announcement on the stadium today... Giving they environmental report. They also said something about them having the money and buying a franchise... wonder if anyone has heard yet lol.
     
     
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laofanaheim, I was going off things like what I read back in january...







I think you're correct....plus if it had been flipped, I meant to say it would have been flippped horizontally, not vertically.

The alta lofts pic still looks so hyper polished that I can't help but think it actually was photoshopped. Or since we're dealing with LA, where getting permits for things like building & opening new restaurants takes forever & forever, I'm very skeptical that the street in front of alta lofts really has been improved since google map's cam drove by.

If LA was a city that wasn't so slow in getting things done, I'd be confident in assuming the area around alta lofts actually had been cleaned up, so that if I were to go by there today it would be like this.....




^ excuse the bad photoshopping job, but maybe it shows a day when it's gonna rain.


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