LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 4.0 - Page 185

citywatch · #**3681** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 7:37 AM**

Speaking of images that may or may not be edited, I saw the following pics in the noirish los angeles thread in the "found city photos" section of ssp & thought the images were a bit of trickery. But they really aren't. They were posted by ethereal_reality, & he too commented on how he was amazed by them cuz they look like they were photoshopped. Part of it is cuz the remodeled bldg was done in a style that's very deconstructionist, so it already may look jarring & mismatched to many ppl.

this is the alta lofts proj near dodgers stadium, which is sort of the northern branch of dtla, so that proj isn't too OT for this thread.....

www.you-are-here.com

www.livealta.com

Illithid Dude · #**3682** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 8:24 AM**

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btw, I still think that what can be said about the US auto industry & the way it has changed----including the rise of competing asian car makers & states throughout america that fight for assembly plants----& how that change has hit detroit-michigan can be applied to the TV, movie industry & the changes it has seen, & the way those changes are affecting LA.

Except for that there aren't any changes and L.A. isn't being affected by anything negative concerning the film industry. In fact, many film studios are expanding right now, which is the exact opposite of what is happening with Detroit. For example, Liongate is building a new HQ in Santa Monica, and Paramount is expanding their Hollywood campus to include more offices and soundstages.

And concerning your picture of the building with the deconstructionist top and the beu arts bottom, I've always liked that building. The architects are Pugh+Scarpa, if you want to check out their work. They did a lot of the stuff for Bergemont Station and Santa Monica College.

Mojeda101 · #**3683** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 10:09 AM**

Curious question, how tall is the lower wing of LA Live? It seems to be around the same height as the new Marriott, if not, in that general height.

ocman · #**3684** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 1:22 PM**

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www.livealta.com

You've got to be kidding me. They painted it yellow! It has no semblance of being an historic building anymore.

photoLith · #**3685** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 3:11 PM**

That is god awful terrible.

K 22 · #**3686** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 3:21 PM**

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www.livealta.com

This building looks like an ice cream sundae.

citywatch · #**3687** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 4:10 PM**

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You've got to be kidding me. They painted it yellow! It has no semblance of being an historic building anymore.

and not just that, but the "after" photo, which I believe was taken by the devlpr of the alta lofts, actually has been edited.

whoever did the "before" photo flipped it vertically, probably without realizing it & by mistake. That's why I at first couldn't figure out why the 2 images didn't line up correctly. unfortunately, after looking more carefully at the pic of the alta lofts bldg after it was redone, I realize its surroundings don't exist in real life.

I think if a photo of the alta lofts were snapped right now, although the bldg would still look very similar to the way it does in the "after" pic, the area around it would still look like this....

maps.google.com

So that hood doesn't look quite so clean as it does in the photoshopped image.

DtlaCuriousity · #**3688** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 5:48 PM**

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and not just that, but the "after" photo, which I believe was taken by the devlpr of the alta lofts, actually has been edited.

whoever did the "before" photo flipped it vertically, probably without realizing it & by mistake. That's why I at first couldn't figure out why the 2 images didn't line up correctly. unfortunately, after looking more carefully at the pic of the alta lofts bldg after it was redone, I realize its surroundings don't exist in real life.

I think if a photo of the alta lofts were snapped right now, although the bldg would still look very similar to the way it does in the "after" pic, the area around it would still look like this....

maps.google.com

So that hood doesn't look quite so clean as it does in the photoshopped image.

Yeah, it is pretty sketchy - mostly because there is so little activity there. My band rents out a rehearsal studio across the street. Even though this building is fairly close to a gold line station, the station is so poorly placed and obstructed by bad planning that it creates a terrible experience waking to and from it.

Funny to note, although it seems most people are hating this building, the picture makes it look better than it looks like in person.

LAofAnaheim · #**3689** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by citywatch

btw, I still think that what can be said about the US auto industry & the way it has changed----including the rise of competing asian car makers & states throughout america that fight for assembly plants----& how that change has hit detroit-michigan can be applied to the TV, movie industry & the changes it has seen, & the way those changes are affecting LA.

Instead of these vague generalized statements about the somehow apparent "darth" of the entertainment industry, which again is an illusion and NOT factual..........please provide us statistics. Using emotions is not going to work.

Yes, some of the largest big budget films over last 20 years have started to be filmed outside of LA. But you are totally disregarding the mid-level budget films and the numerous, beyond numerous television shows that film in LA (name one that films outside of Los Angeles please).

LA is STILL the place for all forms of media entertainment. People still come to LA to "make it in Hollywood". No other city has that reputation. Bar none.

LA21st · #**3690** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 6:33 PM**

I'm an aspiring screenwriter and director in Chicago. I can assure you that everyone in networking events thinks of LA for film or TV here. I've never heard anyone say "I have to be in Vancouver/Toronto/NYC/Michigan/North Carolina to help my career".

On screenwriting websites, even New Yorkers know they have to leave for LA. Why? That's where everyone is. That's where all the real networking takes place. As a writer you can live anywhere, but we're told by industry people to "come to LA".

The actors I've talked to in Chicago say the same thing. At some point they say they have to go to LA. I don't see that changing. All of the talent agenices, major production companies and movie studios are in LA. They aren't leaving. Where would they go? Detroit? Philadelphia?

dachacon · #**3691** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 6:42 PM**

According to the Los Angeles Business Journal, film production in the 4th quarter had 11,410 production days. Comparison to the 3rd quarter with had 11,210. There are 91 days in the average quarter so just over 125 filming project EVERY DAY!! that doesn't include small project films that film with out permits, and such.

Show me a City that comes close to that!!

LosAngelesDreamin · #**3692** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 6:46 PM**

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I'm an aspiring screenwriter and director in Chicago. I can assure you that everyone in networking events thinks of LA for film or TV here. I've never heard anyone say "I have to be in Vancouver/Toronto/NYC/Michigan/North Carolina to help my career".

On screenwriting websites, even New Yorkers know they have to leave for LA. Why? That's where everyone is. That's where all the real networking takes place. As a writer you can live anywhere, but we're told by industry people to "come to LA".

The actors I've talked to in Chicago say the same thing. At some point they say they have to go to LA. I don't see that changing. All of the talent agenices, major production companies and movie studios are in LA. They aren't leaving. Where would they go? Detroit? Philadelphia?

I agree.... i have 2 coworkers.. one from Houston and one from Miami.. both are lookin to get into the entertainment industry after the military and all they talk about is going to LA on some of their days off.. the one from Houston has actually been taking acting classes and had a few auditions in LA already.. they talk about how LA is crowded, crazy and polluted but they see it as the "beauty" of the city and they love it... the typical hustle and bustle, on the go attitude of a big town is what they see in the city and how they know they're in LA... that's coming from people from Texas and Florida.

LA21st · #**3693** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 7:08 PM**

I think LA is seen in a different light for creative people. For instance, let’s say we drive by a boring low rise office building. So what, right? To the ordinary observer, it doesn’t matter. But I could look at the same office and say, “Hey! That’s where so and so production company is headquartered! These guys make the________ movies!

It won’t mean anything to people that aren't trying to get into the industry, but it’s awesome to the people that are. And there’s an amazing power to it, imo. Some of you guys don’t realize it or take it for granted.

WonderlandPark · #**3694** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 7:33 PM**

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www.livealta.com

Hey, don't diss my building, I live there, and its not awful, its better than most in that neighborhood. (I am not the biggest fan of the exterior color, but its hardly the worst choice)

the old historic pis isn't flipped, its a different corner than the developer pic.

Mojeda101 · #**3695** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 7:58 PM**

According to the pictures, and a few looks on Google Earth, it looks like there will still be a lot right next to the Courtyard. Although significantly smaller than the Courtyard, is it enough space to put a building? Hell, I took a big gander at the area and it just put a big frown on my face.

Look at this! >.<

I'm glad they are slowly filling up those parking lots, but that area could make up 20% of the current skyline if it were filled up.

BrandonJXN · #**3696** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 9:39 PM**

We know that.

colemonkee · #**3697** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 10:27 PM**

Mojeda, you're correct, the Courtyard Marriott tower only takes up about half of that parking lot. The western half is not in the development plan, and will presumably be a staging ground during construction and be used as a parking lot until a plan to develop it moves forward.

I actually see this as a good thing, as they're developing this rather densely, and it saves more room for future development. Much better than taking up the whole lot with a low-rise podium.

RST500 · #**3698** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 10:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mojeda101

According to the pictures, and a few looks on Google Earth, it looks like there will still be a lot right next to the Courtyard. Although significantly smaller than the Courtyard, is it enough space to put a building? Hell, I took a big gander at the area and it just put a big frown on my face.

Look at this! >.<

I'm glad they are slowly filling up those parking lots, but that area could make up 20% of the current skyline if it were filled up.

Isn't that big lot there going to be metropolis? I look on the bright side thats there is a lot of space left to expand the skyline.

colemonkee · #**3699** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 10:45 PM**

^ Yes, Metropolis is the lot bounded by 8th, Francisco, 9th and the 110 freeway, and actually has two circles in that screen grab. It's a gaping hole in both the urban fabric and the skyline, and will eventually fill in. I have a feeling it will take some time though. And the current plans for that property are much more mid-rise (less than 20 stories) than high rise.

LosAngelesSportsFan · #**3700** Posted **Mar 29, 2012, 11:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by colemonkee

Mojeda, you're correct, the Courtyard Marriott tower only takes up about half of that parking lot. The western half is not in the development plan, and will presumably be a staging ground during construction and be used as a parking lot until a plan to develop it moves forward.

I actually see this as a good thing, as they're developing this rather densely, and it saves more room for future development. Much better than taking up the whole lot with a low-rise podium.

Agreed Colemonkey. Also, a lot of these lots are spoken for. i suspect that the lot across from the Pantry will get developed soon. its a prime location. another hotel i bet.