ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 213

shivtim · #**4241** Posted **Mar 9, 2012, 3:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by gttx

Clearly you've never walked around near 7th and West Peachtree late at night.

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You mean in front of the Renaissance Hotel? I walk by it all the time, including at night. It's only 2 blocks from my home.

Anyways, I agree with the others - I'm not sure why Scania decided to bring up his old Buckhead vs. Midtown crap again. And considering this is the construction thread, lets try to stick to construction. Still no crane yet at 12th & Midtown apartments.

sunking1056 · #**4242** Posted **Mar 9, 2012, 10:51 PM**

The fence around 285 Marietta has a banner on it advertising leasing for Times Square South. Love that this might actually be happening, HATE the name.

ATL_J · #**4243** Posted **Mar 9, 2012, 11:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by sunking1056

The fence around 285 Marietta has a banner on it advertising leasing for Times Square South. Love that this might actually be happening, HATE the name.

Are they actually going to call the development Times Square South or is it just being marketed as Times Square South? From my understanding the development will be called 285 Marietta Street, but they're going to be marketing it as Times Square South.

scania · #**4244** Posted **Mar 11, 2012, 10:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tuckerman

The city of Atlanta's "downtown" is in three clumps (downtown, midtown and buckhead). Like a snake that has swallowed three mice at different times. You could also throw in the Perimeter and the Triangle. No doubt that if all these highrises were in the area we call "downtown" ATL it would be a very impressive cityscape. But that is not reality; ATL is a late 20th century city and we shouldn't be surprised at its present layout. The good news is that slowly these "clumps" are growing together and the whole experience of going up Peachtree has changed incredibly in the past 20 years. Also when you go on 400 from Perimeter to Buckhead it seems remarkably close together. In my mind the whole conglomeration is ATL. We should forget about traditional "downtowns."

I totally agree with you!!!

joecool · #**4245** Posted **Mar 12, 2012, 5:14 AM**

I agree also. I think we do need more infill in midtown and downtown but we also need more entertainment. More art. Parks, fountains, more things to do to brings more tourist and attract more people from around the south east. This is how cities like New Orleans and New York do it. The night life for one has gone waaaaaaay down hill! ...just sayin.

shivtim · #**4246** Posted **Mar 12, 2012, 2:26 PM**

CDC Buford Highway building is up to the 6th floor:

ATL_J · #**4247** Posted **Mar 12, 2012, 9:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by joecool

The night life for one has gone waaaaaaay down hill! ...just sayin.

How has the nightlight gone down hill? I know Buckhead isn't what it once was, but there are a variety of places in and around town with plenty of nightlife. I'm wondering why you think its "gone waaaaaay down hill!"? It might be different than 10-20 years ago, but I think its perfectly fine.

briantech · #**4248** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 2:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by ATL_J

How has the nightlight gone down hill? I know Buckhead isn't what it once was, but there are a variety of places in and around town with plenty of nightlife. I'm wondering why you think its "gone waaaaaay down hill!"? It might be different than 10-20 years ago, but I think its perfectly fine.

Yeah... go to Crescent st or Va-Hi or the East Andrews area on a friday night...

testarossa50 · #**4249** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 10:54 AM**

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Originally Posted by briantech

Yeah... go to Crescent st or Va-Hi or the East Andrews area on a friday night...

Or Decatur, EAV, Little 5, Old Fourth Ward, etc. Those areas have a lot more going on than they ever did in the past.

ATL_J · #**4250** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 1:17 PM**

And.... for those of us who feared the branding of 285 Marietta Street as Times Square South, our fears have been realized: http://timessquareatl.com/

What an unfortunate name. Why does it have to attempt to borrow from other places? Why can't it be distinct to Atlanta?

ATLaffinity · #**4251** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 1:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATL_J

And.... for those of us who feared the branding of 285 Marietta Street as Times Square South, our fears have been realized: http://timessquareatl.com/

What an unfortunate name. Why does it have to attempt to borrow from other places? Why can't it be distinct to Atlanta?

What, didn't you read their marketing drivel?

It's a "Pioneering Project Conceived by Visionaries" !!!

"Atlanta will finally have the missing jewel in her crown."

"With so much happening at such a desirable location, the area will become its own center of gravity..."

Not that I'm a fan of Times Square in NYC but it's not crowded just because they have a wrap-around billboard. There's, you know, things to do in the area.

I hope the area does well but it's hard to listen to their plans with a straight face.

scania · #**4252** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 3:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by briantech

Yeah... go to Crescent st or Va-Hi or the East Andrews area on a friday night...

Let's be a little more realistic...I hope you all don't think those two LITTLE spots deserves to give Atlanta a great nightlife experience.

(four 0 four) · #**4253** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 3:18 PM**

Gosh, the only thing missing at Times Square South is a singing cowboy. I wonder if Baton Bob could be hired as our Southern version of that iconic figure. http://www.batonbob.com/
With him in place, the two areas would be virtually indistinguishable.

scania · #**4254** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 3:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by testarossa50

Or Decatur, EAV, Little 5, Old Fourth Ward, etc. Those areas have a lot more going on than they ever did in the past.

This maybe true, but it doesn't make up for the nightlife Atlanta had when there was once a true nightlife from Underground, to the Backstreet in Midtown, to the Village in Buckhead. Since the early/mid nineties, the nightlife experience in Atlanta has slowly dwindle. To be honest, some of the high-rises have taken away from the nightlife Atlanta had at one time. It would have been better to build new skyscrapers incorporated with existing buildings. That would have created a more urban vibe, and not just a high-rise here with nothing really adjacent to the high-rise. IMO, that would have created density.

ChadK · #**4255** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 6:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATL_J

And.... for those of us who feared the branding of 285 Marietta Street as Times Square South, our fears have been realized: http://timessquareatl.com/

What an unfortunate name. Why does it have to attempt to borrow from other places? Why can't it be distinct to Atlanta?

What drives me crazier than the moniker is the fact that the billboards don't really face anything. The building and concept (original or no) is actually pretty decent.

aquablue · #**4256** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by scania

This maybe true, but it doesn't make up for the nightlife Atlanta had when there was once a true nightlife from Underground, to the Backstreet in Midtown, to the Village in Buckhead. Since the early/mid nineties, the nightlife experience in Atlanta has slowly dwindle. To be honest, some of the high-rises have taken away from the nightlife Atlanta had at one time. It would have been better to build new skyscrapers incorporated with existing buildings. That would have created a more urban vibe, and not just a high-rise here with nothing really adjacent to the high-rise. IMO, that would have created density.

I'm not familiar with ATL, but if sterile towers have hurt nightlife, I'm sure there are plenty of locales where a new nightlife district could flourish, no? Isn't there some old industrial or wharehouse area that could become the next hip place? Look at NYC for an example. Williamsburgh was once a shitty industrial hell hole, and look what they did with it?

SteveD · #**4257** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 7:11 PM**

As a resident of EAV, I can attest to the fact that it's busier than it ever has been. It's packed to the rafters pretty much every night of the week these days. Multiple music venues, multiple bars, pubs and restaurants, increasingly more than just us locals.

testarossa50 · #**4258** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATL_J

And.... for those of us who feared the branding of 285 Marietta Street as Times Square South, our fears have been realized: http://timessquareatl.com/

What an unfortunate name. Why does it have to attempt to borrow from other places? Why can't it be distinct to Atlanta?

The website claims 60k SF of retail, but the floor plan shows all of the nearby buildings' retail as well. Does the 60k number include the entire block, or just the proposed development? They would have to go off the ground a few floors with retail in order to get that high; it would be a tourist-focused mini-mall I guess.

I hope it gets off the ground, despite the branding.

joecool · #**4259** Posted **Mar 13, 2012, 11:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by ATL_J

How has the nightlight gone down hill? I know Buckhead isn't what it once was, but there are a variety of places in and around town with plenty of nightlife. I'm wondering why you think its "gone waaaaaay down hill!"? It might be different than 10-20 years ago, but I think its perfectly fine.

If you compare it to what is was before Shirley Franklin and the city changed it to where you can't drink after 3 then it's not as "bumpin" as it used to be. Before you could dance/drink all night. Everyone I know is disappointed in how the night life is now. I'm not attacking Atlanta in anyway just stating my opinion. Atlanta still has a better night life then many cities but not what it once had. Backstreet was awesome. There has not been a good gay dance club since. Vision is gone, Compound is gone. Red Chair is gone... just to name a few place that were fun to go to.

simms3_redux · #**4260** Posted **Mar 14, 2012, 1:15 AM**

I, too, have heard that nightlife in the 90s/early 2000s was literally off the chain - better than Miami at the time. Now there are some bar villages left and some cool off the beaten path lounges, but no good super clubs. Door policy? Atlanta's door policy at the largest clubs is certainly much more strict than your average city under 3 million people, but by no means impresses me. I don't care to be around a bunch of wannabes who spend money they don't have. I just want a club that is truly special whereby NOBODY could afford to go every single week and it would be meant for a special occasion - and EVERYBODY dresses nicely - like business casual turned evening wear, not "clubwear" turned somewhat nicer clubwear.

I personally cannot make it past 1:00 myself without a little help from caffeine, but I do think that last call at 2:30/2:45 and leave by 3:00 hurts the nightlife a lot. At least move it up an hour.

Regarding construction - the cranes are still not up at 77 12th. Wondering what the delay is as the two stubs/bases are long in the ground just waiting for the bodies of the cranes.

And Loews/1075 Peachtree replaced Vision and some other stuff, but Loews has a hip and active lobby and a club and a restaurant/bar, and the rest of the base will eventually become retail, so in all actuality what we got is A LOT better than what we had.