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ChelseaFC · #**3281** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 5:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by westsidelife

i don't know about you guys, but i'd love to see a park across from staples instead of la central and jardin. Anyone else agree?

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alki · #**3282** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 5:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by bobcat

Lightweight, wood-framed structures also fare better in earthquakes than the type of construction you see in other parts of the country.

Definitely. Wood is used a lot in lieu of concrete because of its ability to move in quakes.

But I was thinking more about crawl spaces instead of basements, half basements rather than full basements, lack of insulation and storm windows, etc. In addition, lots of interaction between outdoors and indoors through glass doors and windows...........something I liked a lot but you would rarely see in much colder climates.

Trojan · #**3283** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 6:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by Westsidelife

I don't know about you guys, but I'd love to see a park across from Staples instead of LA Central and Jardin. Anyone else agree?

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2012/02/wh..._from_staples_center.php#reader_comments

Yeah, so all the homeless people will migrate over there from Pershing Square.

alki · #**3284** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 6:49 AM**

This trailer for The Voice looks like it was staged at the Biltmore:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/06...na-aguilera-blake-shelton_n_1258316.html

dachacon · #**3285** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 7:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by bobcat

Lightweight, wood-framed structures also fare better in earthquakes than the type of construction you see in other parts of the country.

Actually steel and iron fare better in earthquakes, cause of there ability to absorb waves by swaying, and have a greater give point unlike wood which snaps very easily. Steel is very expensive so only when a building is greater that 6 floors do the economics of building with steel become justifiable. Otherwise wood will prevail. Cheap Cheap Wood.

213 · #**3286** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 11:35 AM**

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This trailer for The Voice looks like it was staged at the Biltmore:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/06...na-aguilera-blake-shelton_n_1258316.html

The Park Plaza.

BrandonJXN · #**3287** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 4:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Westsidelife

I don't know about you guys, but I'd love to see a park across from Staples instead of LA Central and Jardin. Anyone else agree?

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2012/02/wh..._from_staples_center.php#reader_comments

If it's something like Millenium Park in Chicago then sure. But I would still rather see some type of development there as opposed to a park.

JDRCRASH · #**3288** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 5:21 PM**

I'd love to see a park in the area, but I'm not sure the LA Central site is the best choice. Siigh...if only the convention center expansion project included making Lindsay plaza less plaza-ish and more of a park.

ziggy331 · #**3289** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 6:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by JDRCRASH

I'd love to see a park in the area, but I'm not sure the LA Central site is the best choice. Siigh...if only the convention center expansion project included making Lindsay plaza less plaza-ish and more of a park.

Better than what's there currently if you ask me...

BrandonJXN · #**3290** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 7:08 PM**

I agree. The Gilbert Lindsay skate park will be a bit of green in the land full of teal and concrete.

alki · #**3291** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 7:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jelly Roll

My rent went from 1300 a month to 1650 a month from 2008 to 2010 for a studio apartment when I lived in DC. From what I have heard the rents have gone up even more since I left. Granted those number do not reflect the market average but the rents in DC have been rising very fast over the past 5 years.

That's a huge increase.......27% in two years. I suspect its an anomaly. This report suggests that rents have gone up 7% since the low point in 2009:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apartment-rents-march-higher-2012-01-06

alki · #**3292** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 7:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by 213

The Park Plaza.

I thought you were kidding but I just figured out they turned the old Elks building into a hotel. Awesome! Another one of my rehab fantasies turned into reality. How is the hotel doing? Isn't that still no man's land?

LosAngelesBeauty · #**3293** Posted **Feb 7, 2012, 9:38 PM**

I agree with JDRCRASH and ThreeHundred that LA Central should not be a park and instead remain the large scale development it was planning to be. Currently, LA Live itself doesn't make sense and having a full-scale entertainment complex like LA Central across the street would create great cross flow between the two and also feel more COMPLETE/Coherent.

If we could build a large park elsewhere in DTLA, it should be on the large surface lot at Olive and Olympic across from the Reserve Lofts. That location is more central to everyone, surrounded by South Park, FiDi, Historic Core, and Fashion District.

213 · #**3294** Posted **Feb 8, 2012, 12:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by alki

I thought you were kidding but I just figured out they turned the old Elks building into a hotel. Awesome! Another one of my rehab fantasies turned into reality. How is the hotel doing? Isn't that still no man's land?

The Park Plaza hosts events and film shoots but is in transition otherwise. The tower floors have been gutted -- clearly there's a plan afoot -- and the views up there are terrific.

The neighborhood poses challenges, but the building's proximity to downtown, MacArthur Park and Wilshire Blvd. is an inherent strength. Will be interesting to see what happens...

you-are-here.com

Me

sopas ej · #**3295** Posted **Feb 8, 2012, 4:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by dachacon

Actually steel and iron fare better in earthquakes, cause of there ability to absorb waves by swaying, and have a greater give point unlike wood which snaps very easily. Steel is very expensive so only when a building is greater that 6 floors do the economics of building with steel become justifiable. Otherwise wood will prevail. Cheap Cheap Wood.

Wood is only cheap here because the American lumber industry is subsidized (to the chagrin of Canadians). I have a Greek friend who when we would go out and about in LA and he'd see apartments and houses under construction and see the wood framing, he'd remark how amazed he was because in Greece, wood would actually be quite expensive to use as a building material; in Greece, reinforced concrete is more commonly used.

Kingofthehill · #**3296** Posted **Feb 8, 2012, 8:18 PM**

Great news! The original facade of Clifton's Cafeteria was unveiled today:

source: http://la.curbed.com/archives/2012/02/be...ns_facade_for_first_time_since_1950s.php

LA/OCman · #**3297** Posted **Feb 8, 2012, 8:24 PM**

Awesome...one less cinder block window on Broadway! Can't wait to see it all restored.

Quixote · #**3298** Posted **Feb 8, 2012, 8:47 PM**

Wonderful. It should look as good as new after some TLC and elbow grease.

colemonkee · #**3299** Posted **Feb 8, 2012, 10:13 PM**

Needs a lot of work, but this is Andrew Meieran behind this - who owns the Edison - so it will look great when finished. The guy has pretty impeccable design tastes, especially for historic buildings.

Trojan · #**3300** Posted **Feb 8, 2012, 11:35 PM**

What's the story behind the beautiful St. Vincent's building across the street? Who owns it? Is it ever going to be beautified?