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brickell · #41 Posted **Oct 27, 2011, 7:59 PM**

Odds are getting better every year, but no idea if this is the year that'll do it. The fact that the state passed the racino resolution is a good sign though.

simms3_redux · #42 Posted **Oct 29, 2011, 2:34 PM**

Ew Miami can have this project. Personally, I think it is TOO big. All the towers look virtually the same, the podium is like 6 city blocks with no breaks, and I don't even much like the design. I'm going to be brutally honest here. I tend to dislike big urban master-planned infill projects, but this one is the worst.

The WTC site is done beautifully. Many different famous architects collaborated and the site has meaning and connects what was to what will be.

Atlantic Station in Atlanta is one of my least favorite projects - ever - because I believe it took away focus from Midtown, my own neighborhood (I am biased here), but it was phased with varied architecture and street context. It also did a good job harking back to the massive steel mill that was there, Atlantic Steel (remnants of which are still all over at the shops and in public squares there).

Both of the above projects are very public friendly projects, granted one is horribly cookie cutter (AS) and the other one has limits to how much of the public can enjoy it at a time (WTC site).

This project, the Genting Project, is all about 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵, luxury, and tourism. It does not address the street. It does not directly benefit residents of Miami by catering to their needs. It is not a "public"project or community. It is horribly massed, poorly designed, and simply too large. I don't like one aspect of it. I do like Brickell Citi Centre, however, for all of the opposite reasons I don't like the Genting 🞵🞵🞵🞵.

Dale · #43 Posted **Oct 29, 2011, 5:20 PM**

I know I need street interactivity or I'll die.

*sarcasm*

N830MH · #44 Posted **Oct 30, 2011, 7:06 AM**

How long they will approved it? When they will start construction new Resort hotel?

brickell · #45 Posted **Nov 1, 2011, 3:24 PM**

Micky Arison warns of traffic nightmare if casinos come to downtown Miami
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/10/31/24...s-of-traffic.html#storylink=omni_popular

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Miami Heat owner Micky Arison warned Monday that massive casino resorts in downtown Miami would likely cause traffic nightmares, turn off local basketball fans and generally disrupt Miami’s urban revival.

“We’re on a roll, and I’m not sure this is the right way to continue it,” said the CEO of Carnival Corp. and majority owner of the Heat. “I just don’t know how Miami can handle that kind of traffic.”

Arison’s comments represent the most critical yet from South Florida’s corporate elite as the region considers a plan that could bring the world’s largest casino to the Miami waterfront. It also reveals an interesting subplot to the ongoing 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 debate, since the leading casino operator pursuing a Miami site also controls one of Carnival’s top rivals, Norwegian Cruise Line.

simms3_redux · #46 Posted **Nov 2, 2011, 10:25 PM**

^^^Yes, the latter part of that is very juicy indeed! Go Micky and Carnival

N830MH · #47 Posted **Nov 3, 2011, 7:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by simms3_redux

^^^Yes, the latter part of that is very juicy indeed! Go Micky and Carnival

Let's go get'em!!! They got trying to fought newest resort hotel.

NYguy · #48 Posted **Feb 2, 2012, 6:02 AM**

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/01/2620056/master-plan-for-miami-arts-district.html

Miami arts district master plan is ‘aspirational’

By ELAINE WALKER AND ANDRES VIGLUCCI
02.02.12

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The idea for the master plan began long before The Genting Group purchased The Miami Herald property in May 2011 for $236 million and then unveiled its vision for a $3.8 billion Resorts World Miami, a mega mixed-use destination resort. But the need for a plan gained importance as Codina and Arsht Center leaders grew concerned about future development that would be dramatically out of scale with the surrounding neighborhood.

The plan focuses only on the west side of Biscayne Boulevard and doesn’t address the Genting proposal. The plan includes the area between Interstate 395 and Northeast 14th Street and between North Miami Avenue and Northeast 2nd Avenue.

While Codina met with Genting officials to discuss the vision, he said he didn’t get any commitments. The Malaysian company is waiting for news on whether the state is going to allow a casino resort.

“You tell me when it’s going to happen and the size,” he said. “I don’t know the uses. It’s very hard to deal with it in those terms. Genting to me is an important property owner, but there are a lot of important property owners in the area.”

To create the master plan, the Town Square group turned to Pelli, the original architect for the Arsht Center. Pelli’s hiring was made possible through a $300,000 grant Town Square received from ArtPlace, a federal initiative aimed at revitalizing urban cities by using the arts to spur economic development. The Knight Foundation is one of ArtPlace’s supporters.

“The prediction that this center was going to spur development has come to pass,” Pelli said. “This is an idea of what the area might look like 40 years from now. This could be a path of how it could be developed to achieve a very vibrant neighborhood.”

Zapatan · #49 Posted **Feb 2, 2012, 11:05 AM**

wait where did that rendering come from?

what happened to the plan from the first render? it was soooo cool!

scalziand · #50 Posted **Feb 2, 2012, 4:25 PM**

The buildings in the original render are still there on the right hand side. They just aren't highlighted the same way.

NYguy · #51 Posted **Feb 3, 2012, 4:25 PM**

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-02-03...ed-by-florida-legislative-committee.html

Casino Measure Backed by Genting Blocked by Florida Legislative Committee

By Michael C. Bender
Feb 3, 2012

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A Florida (STOFL1) House of Representatives committee won’t consider this year a proposal to allow casino 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵, stalling plans by Genting Bhd. to build a 10 million- square-foot, 5,200-room resort on Miami’s Biscayne Bay.

The House Business and Consumer Affairs Subcommittee declined to vote on the bill today in Tallahassee, and Representative Doug Holder, a Sarasota Republican, said the panel wouldn’t take it up again. Walt Disney Co. (DIS), the Florida Chamber of Commerce and the Seminole Tribe of Florida, which operates five 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 sites, all opposed the measure.

Genting, which controls Asia’s second-biggest casino operator by market value, spent as much as $280,000 hiring 25 lobbyists, according to state records. It paid $236 million in cash to buy almost 14 acres of bayfront property that is home to McClatchy Co. (MNI)’s Miami Herald newspaper. Genting announced plans to build a $3 billion casino on the site.

Zapatan · #52 Posted **Feb 3, 2012, 4:53 PM**

I seriously want to hurt NIMBY's. They are the scum of the earth.

Zapatan · #53 Posted **Feb 3, 2012, 5:27 PM**

That being said there is still apparently a chance for this to go through next year or something like that. let's keep our dedos cruzados

N830MH · #54 Posted **Feb 4, 2012, 7:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

That being said there is still apparently a chance for this to go through next year or something like that. let's keep our dedos cruzados

How they didn't have approval from governor Scott? I wasn't sure why they didn't have a plan yet.

N830MH · #55 Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 6:26 AM**

Unfortunately, they were denied the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 approval. So here the link:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/20/2705011_p2/genting-group-downsizes-plans.html

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Even without casino 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵, Genting Group said Tuesday it is moving ahead with a dramatically scaled down mixed-use plan for Resorts World Miami.

The five acres where The Miami Herald currently sits would become the site for a five-star luxury hotel, luxury condominiums, waterfront restaurants, some limited retail and an 800-foot long promenade along Biscayne Bay.

We are very disappointing the news to hear. Hopefully they will move forward to start construction sometime in the future.

aquablue · #56 Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 4:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by N830MH

Unfortunately, they were denied the 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 approval. So here the link:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/20/2705011_p2/genting-group-downsizes-plans.html

We are very disappointing the news to hear. Hopefully they will move forward to start construction sometime in the future.

The correct sentence is "we are very disappointed to hear the news", just FYI.

skyscraperfan23 · #57 Posted **Mar 21, 2012, 11:54 PM**

Miami is truly gonna be the next las vegas.

Zapatan · #58 Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 1:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by skyscraperfan23

Miami is truly gonna be the next las vegas.

ugh I hope not

Anyway, as for the news, I'm under the impression that they can get it re-approved next year.

N830MH · #59 Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 1:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by aquablue

The correct sentence is "we are very disappointed to hear the news", just FYI.

Oh, thanks for your clarification. I appreciate your helps. I will try to best everything I can. I will try to improved to speak a English skill.

bobdreamz · #60 Posted **Mar 22, 2012, 2:11 AM**

From the article above posted by NYGuy:

Walt Disney Co. (DIS), the Florida Chamber of Commerce and the Seminole Tribe of Florida, which operates five 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 sites, all opposed the measure.

So basically the Mouse has roared and rules the state of Florida. It seems Disney is quite paranoid about having competition for tourists even though casinos appeal to a different type of tourist.
Genting has now said it may take up to 20 years to develop the the 14 acre property without the casinos. In addition Genting bought up adjacent properties nearby for a total of 31 acres in the area. As of right now everything about this project is up in the air.