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Old Posted Jan 25, 2012, 10:15 PM
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If you're right, that will be one very dense block!!

Let's hope the designs here are better than the other hotel retrofit released yesterday.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2012, 10:50 PM
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Downtown Montreal parking lot sold for $14 million


By Allison Lampert, The Gazette January 25, 2012 5:07 PM


The parking lot that faces the Bell Centre may become the home of a 50-storey tower.

A parking lot across from the Bell Centre has fetched one of downtown Montreal’s highest prices for land in the last five years, reflecting ongoing demand for sites in prime locations with sky-high zoning potential.

The 31,822-square-foot site on Ave. des Canadiens, between de la Montagne and Drummond Sts., sold for $14.1 million last week, real estate services firm CBRE Ltd. said.

Per square foot, it’s more than what most Montrealers would pay these days for a mid-priced condo.

The land was sold by Modico Canada Ltd. and Stationnement Modico Inc. to a Montreal developer backed by a Toronto equity partner.

The land fetched a high price because it could be used for anything from a 40-storey condo tower to a hotel to a giant bar where Habs fans could congregate after a game.

“It’s a site that can support any use,” said Brett Miller, CBRE’s executive vice president and regional managing director, Eastern Canada.

And just as Montreal-area condo starts and resales both hit record high levels in 2011, so have sales of the land used mostly in the construction of new residential towers. In the Greater Montreal Area, the sale volume of high density land, located mostly in the downtown core, rose from just over $152 million in 2010 to almost $161 million in 2011, CBRE figures show.

Miller said deals like the Modico lot transaction, which follow detailed market studies, prove that development is still strong in the Montreal area, despite remarks from some analysts and builders who say they are expecting softer sales in 2012 compared to previous years.

“It shows that among people in the know ... there’s the conviction that the market has strength.”

This week, the Quebec Federation of Real Estate Boards forecasted a two per cent rise in provincial housing sales, along with price increases slightly above inflation.

According to the Teranet-National Bank house price index released Wednesday, Canadian house prices dropped .2 per cent in November 2011 for the first time in nearly a year.

The national composite index, which tracks registered prices of homes sold at least twice, shows prices rose .4 per cent in Montreal, but fell in eight of the 11 metropolitan markets tracked — one more than in October.

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Old Posted Jan 25, 2012, 11:59 PM
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Here is a look back at the history of the historic banking buildings set to become the future home of the Massey Tower


http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/01/a_closer_look_at_a_crucial_heritage_site_in_toronto/
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 8:27 PM
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Breaking News: Article in today's Toronto Star confirms that Karma was indeed approved at 50 storeys and is apparently over 90% sold:


http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1121900
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CentreCourt is developing Karma, a 50-storey, 495-unit glass tower at 21 Grenville St., in partnership with Lifetime Developments.

The project, which launched in November, is more than 90 per cent sold. Zoning was finalized in December and the developers will be releasing an additional five floors Saturday.

The additional floors should put it well over 500 feet.




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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 9:58 PM
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Will probably end up in the 165 meter range.

Whippersnapper got his wish, the 43 building over 500 feet under-construction or built in Toronto.

43 buildings over 500 feet. Nice, just a couple of years ago we only had 12 buildings over 500 feet.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 11:01 PM
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"43 buildings over 500 feet."

Absolutely ridiculous.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 11:48 PM
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Well Theatre Park started in November-2011, so Karma is likely the next 500 ft'er to start. I think this will be the biggest lagg between 500 foot starts in a long time.
     
     
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Outrageous! What the hell is fueling this unrealistic construction boom in Toronto? Ontario's economy [along with BC's] is in the sh*tter... how can this all be viable?


Sorry, I don't mean to sound like a "troll" or whatever.... I am actually genuinely curious...
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2012, 1:08 AM
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Toronto is not Ontario.

Toronto is actually leading the Canadian cities on combined economic indicators as per CIBC. No oil here so the only thing that keeps us afloat is pure unbridaled capitalism, sheer numbers and forces of will. Of course the fact the global elite are all parking their money here helps too.
     
     
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Chinese investors are an influential force in the Toronto condo market. Without them, these projects will never sell so quickly/well and a good portion would not even be built or proposed at all.
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happy with karma's height boost. of course, the taller our towers, the better everything gets!

i've never gotten the design though. i don't like what they did with the stacked sliding box effect... i'd rather them just do a straight up box than that... and i don't get why they're saying that circular mechanical box will be a landmark on the skyline?!!!... then why the hell did u cover it up on it's sides to make it look rectangular!?!?!?!?!
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Uhm, yes, Toronto is Ontario. It's the capital and largest city... incase you had forgotten. The GTA comprises nearly half of the provincial population.
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2012, 2:06 AM
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Don't tell that to the rest of Ontario!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2012, 2:27 AM
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happy with karma's height boost. of course, the taller our towers, the better everything gets!

i've never gotten the design though. i don't like what they did with the stacked sliding box effect... i'd rather them just do a straight up box than that... and i don't get why they're saying that circular mechanical box will be a landmark on the skyline?!!!... then why the hell did u cover it up on it's sides to make it look rectangular!?!?!?!?!

Personally I've always loved this design, simple clean, not too fussy, and nice height. I have a feeling the architect created that jut out on the western side just to maximize sq/ft space on those floors. It looks to start about where the building next to it's roof line is so the lower floors were forced to be set back the mandatory metres from a facing building as per city code. Or I could be wrong and it was just done to break it up a bit.
     
     
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Bay-Adela...I mean Herald Square at night, from the Brookfield website:



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Old Posted Jan 27, 2012, 6:59 AM
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LOL, though I think it will look great in the Calgary skyline, simple but timeless. How may floors is it? It's even 50 st like BA.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2012, 9:51 AM
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INDX Condos, Centrecourt and Lifetime Dev, 54s

Breaking news!!! (Except it's actually more than a day old.)

Centrecourt and Lifetime Development's newest project at 70 Temperance to be called INDX Condos --a nice play on the TSX nearby.

www.indxcondos.com coming soon.

Hope it's by either aA/Core/Wallman as per the developers' stated favourite architects.

VVIP launch soon, so renderings next week?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2012, 12:55 PM
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Let's see if a new design can push it over 200 meters.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2012, 6:23 PM
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I apologize for sending this thread off topic. I moved the off topic threads about Toronto's economy to this thread:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=197323

If anyone is interested in discussing it further we'd love to have you in the Toronto section.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2012, 3:42 AM
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Hope it's by either aA/Core/Wallman as per the developers' stated favourite architects.
Core and Wallman I can take, but please for the love of god let it not be another aA project.
     
     
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