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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 12:23 AM
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1WTC Freedom Tower @ 90 Storys (Jan 25, 2012).

Jan 25, 2012... 1WTC Freedom Tower @ 90 Storys (Jan 25, 2011).
JUST A FEW MORE MONTHS TO THE ROOF! :-) I will be getting my new wtc construction videos up from October very soon. I also have video from NJ, Queens & Brooklyn also from October that I need to get up still as well. Oh yea, I did take video from the top of the Empire State Building in December also. So please subscribe to my channel & check it out when it comes online! I am sorry for the delay for the last few months, but I've been busy doing other stuff. I plan on going back to the site & taking new updated pictures & video in the Middle of Feb while I am on vacation & I also plan on going to the 9-11 Memorial for the first time while I am there. Hope the weather is good the day I go there!

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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 12:30 AM
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It has been left like that so they can safely bring glass up to the upper floors. It won't be covered till 2013.
What does the upper floors cladding have to do with floor 20? please elaborate.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 12:35 AM
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I took this yesterday from Greystone Park in Morristown, NJ. Nearly 40 miles away and the tower is still quite visible over the hills in the distance. I keep finding new places where NY can be seen and im sure theres alot more to be discovered.......

SWEET! It's really starting to stick up out of no-where now! :-) LOVING IT! :-)
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 12:40 AM
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Very nice Otie. But it would suprise me if the antenna configuration was like that when it's finished. It's kind of 90s, before fiber took over most of the microwave link business. Those round enclosures must be 10 feet tall. Room enough to house dozens of smaller elements each. That ring would be a great place for some of the fancy spot beam data services you see in other countries.
Never heard of "Electronic news gathering antennas".
I imagine a lot of the configuration will depend on if they get the broadcasters back.

Any idea if they're building it from the top down and jacking it up?
I have no idea about how they will build the Spire, but it WILL BE VERY INTERESTING to see going up! Can't wait!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 12:46 AM
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I think right the opposite, the more you ask, the less ignorant you'll be. DCM has ordered to the steel shop to fabricate the mast steel more than 6 months ago.


First of all, let me clarify that once the tower reaches the roof, work will be devided in two separate projects: construction of the antenna with the erection of the roof and installing the mechanical systems.

Antenna
The antenna alone will weight about 400 tons and it will be assembled in 7 stacked sections that decrease in diameter the higher they go, there's an 8th section that will sit up above the rest that will form the beacon, the top of the 8th section will mark the 1776' elevation from Main Lobby.

These sections are all different between them, some of them will have as much as 20 sides while others will only have 4 sides, some will have a lattice steel structure while others will be made of steel plates with cut-out zones. The mast includes a variety of fabrication and construction methods so that transmission equipment can be inserted into it and can also give attachment points for antenna and satellite dishes.

The transition between sections will be achieved by using cast-steel connectors, this solves the problem of placing a structure above another one with different geometries.
The antenna will be anchored to the roof slab with 8 Kevlar guy wires, each of them being 8" thick. These cables will be made of aramid, a synthetic fiber that does not obstruct broadcast signal. (See picture below)

Cable of aramid fiber reinforcement


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Radome Enclosure
The radome enclosure was necessary not only for aesthetic purposes but will also solve practical issues with the antenna and the wind loads.
The enclosure will have attached stiffness due to the 2.5" thick panels made of fiberglass and foam (See picture below), this stiffness will help resist the wind load. Fiberglass and foam are radio-frequency “transparent” materials, and were selected in order to avoid problems with the broadcasting equipment.


Fiberglass-and-foam sandwich panel

The enclosure will also help protect personel at the maintenance areas inside the spire (platforms) and its repeating modular system will allow easy replacement in case they need to replace any section.
The radome will be assembled in 20 foot sections, all of them consisting of octagonal modules.

For further wind support, large helices or stakes will wrap the radome and will direct wind away from the mast, mitigating vortex shading and reducing structural fatigue. This, along with the guy wires, will help reduce the range of deflection to as much as 0.5 degrees in a constant 50 mile-per-hour wind,an engineering achievement...

Crown, or Communication Platform Ring
The three-level circular lattice ring will house microwave dishes, ENG antennas and whip-type radio antennas that television companies will use.


The Window Washing Track consists of 3 circular tracks located just below the lower platform ring and above the parapet line, it will allow three window-washing cranes to ride on it. These cranes will have telescoping arms, they will look similar to the Burj Khalifa's boom units (see image below).



May 2012?
Thanks for the info about the Spire. Will be very interesting to see going up! CAN'T WAIT! But I can't wait til we get to the roof & top-out the tower itself first! :-)
     
     
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Do you know what I look forward to? Aside from visiting the tower during my yearly NYC visits, of course..I look forward to when it is topped out, and a maintenance man or someone who is lucky enough to be outside on the roof doing work takes video of the amazing view, and posts it online for all to see! Once it is finished, we can hope the antenna guys who have to be outside on the top to work on the various equipment will take some video as well. I recall one or two amazing videos posted on youtube by some workers who were actually on the North Tower roof, truly an amazing sight, without any of the barriers! Actually, when the topping out itself occurs in a few months, we will hopefully see some video by some of the workers or PA near the top outside taken and posted. That will be such a cool thing to see!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 1:38 AM
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What do you mean when you say a "contemporary roof"
He meant "temporary".
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 2:21 AM
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Nice photo, but I'm so sick of that overused filter.
I'm assuming you are referring to HDR photography(which I would normally agree with you in that case, because it is normally applied very, very liberally or in the simple tone-mapped method that results in glowing halos surrounding dark objects) but this particular shot is not the result of any filter or quick effect in photoshop. What he's done is take a series of long exposures and combine them to create a very balanced shot; this is what many HDR "filters" or processes are meant to create, but are often abused by amateurs. The lenth of exposure allows a lot of light and color to fill in the gaps that you normally wouldn't see in a photo. It looks surreal because you aren't used to seeing this much detail in a night time shot- honestly I think it's one of the best shots I've seen of NYC I've seen here in quite some time.
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 2:27 AM
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What does the upper floors cladding have to do with floor 20? please elaborate.
They are lifting glass up, and if they put the glass up there right now they have high chance of being broken by glass that is going up.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 2:31 AM
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That looks a hell of a lot like a antenna to me and not an architectural spire.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 2:46 AM
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They are lifting glass up, and if they put the glass up there right now they have high chance of being broken by glass that is going up.
How?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 3:23 AM
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He meant "temporary".
Right sorry. It means it can be removed when the upper floors begin.
     
     
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That looks a hell of a lot like a antenna to me and not an architectural spire.
The renderings are showing what's inside the mast the radio antennae wont be visible
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 3:28 AM
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How?
Don't know that much. That is what the Port Authority told me. Send them the why, and see what they are going to tell you.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 3:58 AM
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What antenna do you know is cladded in white fiberglass?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 4:04 AM
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This is an antenna mast. This was on top of the North Tower before it and the tower was destroyed on 9/11.



This is the mast for the new One World Trade Center. See the differences?

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 4:37 AM
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I've always thought (and still do) that the antenna ring platforms should be glass enclosed observation decks with the glass canted outward at an angle, similar to the CN tower upper deck. There's no way they need all those microwave antennas. Besides, they could still vent the HVAC through the center of the rings. That would make for a much better observation deck and it would be at ~1400 ft as opposed to 1266 ft on floor 102. It would then regain the crown from the Sears tower obs deck (1353 ft). That's the least they can do given how much money they spent on this building compared to other towers of the same size or taller...
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 4:49 AM
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What antenna do you know is cladded in white fiberglass?
As far as I'm aware, this antenna will be the first one to get enclosed with fiberglass and foam.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2012, 5:07 AM
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I've always thought (and still do) that the antenna ring platforms should be glass enclosed observation decks with the glass canted outward at an angle, similar to the CN tower upper deck. There's no way they need all those microwave antennas. Besides, they could still vent the HVAC through the center of the rings. That would make for a much better observation deck and it would be at ~1400 ft as opposed to 1266 ft on floor 102. It would then regain the crown from the Sears tower obs deck (1353 ft). That's the least they can do given how much money they spent on this building compared to other towers of the same size or taller...
I don't think so. Again higher observation decks would exist in NYC. Just not at the World Trade Center.
     
     
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