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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 1:15 PM
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Hi All,

Let me first start by saying I have been reading this forum off and on for years but sorry to say I have never contributed any post.
I do a fair amount of business with Highfield Square(amongst other places in the city) and have followed all the posts and rumours over the last couple of years. I know there have been lots of talks between the city and HFS and up to now I didn't think they had come to any agreement. I have to say I think the the news this morning regarding the Aquilini family buying up the property across from HFS is exciting and can't be a coincidence. I can't wait to hear if something else will be released in the next little while. I too have a feeling this is going to be big and as well as very good for Moncton.

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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 2:30 PM
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This is indeed excellent news. I expect the YMCA building is a heritage structure, so that might complicate things. It'd be a shame to see it knocked down because it does have a lot of character. I'm not sure how easy it is to move a brick structure of that size though.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 3:00 PM
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Smile Highfield Square Area Parking

Also for additional parking issue, on the other side of the tracks by Highfield square, there is the foundry street parking lot that I think the city owns could fairly easily be converted to a parking garage with a pedway over the tracks. I am sure the city wouldn't mind helping out with that. Also Most of Albert Street Industrial area probably could be cleaned up and purchased pretty cheap for additional parking also.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 3:49 PM
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That's one part of town where nobody can complain about a lack of parking...
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 4:39 PM
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Just as long as the Aquillini's don't plan on tearing down the old "Y" then this is huge news, and can't be a coincidence.

To see that structure torn down would be horrible...it must be a heritage building??

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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 6:31 PM
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Hmmmm...

Vancouver developer buys Moncton properties
Speculation continues over downtown Moncton development
CBC News Posted: Jan 18, 2012 7:10 AM AT

A family of Vancouver billionaires has bought an acre of land from the Irvings in downtown Moncton, which is generating more questions about development plans in the city.

Aquilini Investment Group is a major developer in Vancouver. The Aquilini family, which is estimated to be worth $5 billion, already owns the Crown Plaza hotel and now, they've just bought the whole city block around the downtown hotel.

The block includes the old YWCA building, the former SMT bus terminal and the parking lots that link the buildings.

The family also owns the Vancouver Canucks and the stadium the hockey team plays in, Rogers Arena.

Complete article here...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunsw...nb-aquilini-moncton-development-624.html
Lets wind-up the Speculation Machine!!

On other news, I am also very disappointed on the size of the "Valmond Robichaud" condo building. Is it just me, but should the big condo complex on Gauvin would have been better on Dominion and vice-versa!?!
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 10:55 PM
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On other news, I am also very disappointed on the size of the "Valmond Robichaud" condo building. Is it just me, but should the big condo complex on Gauvin would have been better on Dominion and vice-versa!?!
You are completely right on that one!

I'm still happy about the Valmond condos because its at least mid density and is WAYYY better than what was there before. That being said I cant help but be disappointed because I was expecting bigger. As for the Gauvin issue, those should have been built either in downtown dieppe or moncton, rather than on a street which was only a country road 15 years ago

I'm still holding out hope for Valmonds other project, because I get the sense he wants to go big with that one for sure.
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 11:20 PM
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They tore down the Beijing Express restaurant on Highfield Street today for (wait for it) - more surface parking in the downtown!!!
I have recieved a communication from my informant "—" assuring me that the ultimate fate of the Beijing Expess (old Bamboo Garden) location on Highfield Street is not to be mere surface parking. The building has been razed and the lot will be used for surface parking in the short term but the longer term plans will be to have the lot redeveloped.

Since the lot is immediately adjacent to the block owned by the Aquilini Group, I'm sure that it's value will suddenly have increased significantly and it should probably be very attractive for redevelopment.

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I would also like to add my voice to others on this forum who have already expressed hope that the old YWCA building on the Aquilini Group block can be saved. It is easily one of the most distinguished and architecturally interesting buildings in the downtown core. It should be saved if at all possible.

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The newspaper that shall not be named had a very strong editorial today in favour of the new location for Moncton High School out at Royal Oaks. The editors were quite critical of the city councillors who expressed reluctance to fund the necessary infrastructure improvements for the new development. The paper had some valid points, but the issue remains that it is sending the wrong message in terms of promoting core densification to relocate the inner city high school to the very edge of town. We really should be enhancing services for the city centre, not relocating them....
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Old Posted Jan 18, 2012, 11:25 PM
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In other news Morton Pub is being renovated into a Japanese/Thai restaurant.

Is this the rumored Japanese restaurant? Or will there be one downtown too? The rumored home of the downtown one has been leased by something...
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 12:43 AM
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Random stat:

From Jan-Nov 2011 there were 3,403 residential units built in NB.

From Jan-Nov 2011 there were 1,232 residential units built in Moncton CMA.

(estimate) Population of NB: 755,810

(estimate) Population of Moncton CMA: 137,346

Moncton made up 36% of NBs residential unit construction...but only 18% of the population. Hitting exactly 2X above our weight!

Source: StatsCan
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 2:54 AM
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Aquilini Invesment Group (Owner of the Canucks and the apparent owner of the Rogers' arena in Vancouver) buys the Moncton city block from Irving.

Both companies are billionaires.

Aquilini - already owner of Crown Plaza Hotel. NHL hockey franchise owner.
Irving - owner of the Wild Cats.

Is Aquilini getting ready to redevelop this piece of land into a major convention centre with condo living, retail space, upgraded parking facility, etc?

Did Irving sell this piece of land in secret deal for preparation to invest millions in a partnership deal for a new arena across the street?

Why would a company so far away across the other side of Canada, invest in this piece of land which is owned by local Irving billionaire who is obviously not in financial hardship?

All this news coming out days after the announcement of the demise of Highfield Square and the announcement of Crombie REIT looking for redevelopment of this property.

Folks, I've read the writing on the wall.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 12:18 PM
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from CBC

Land deal prompts debate over Moncton development
CBC News Posted: Jan 19, 2012 7:12 AM AT Last Updated: Jan 19, 2012 6:54 AM AT

Vancouver developer buys Moncton properties

The city's plans for a new arena complex were put on hold when the federal government refused to pay for part of the future complex.

However, the recent purchase of a whole city block by a major Vancouver developer is rekindling hope in the city over the construction of a new sports and entertainment venue.

John Thompson, the chief executive officer of Enterprise Greater Moncton, said there is no shortage of speculation on why the Aquilini Investment Group decided to buy all the land around their hotel, the Crowne Plaza.

And Thompson said he is willing to make a few guesses.

"I think it would be ideally suited if you have a sports complex on one side of the road and the convention centre and imagine having a bridge joining the two,"he said.

"Obviously that property is very well suited to that."

Moncton-Riverview-Dieppe Conservative MP, Robert Goguen said he's still trying to find some federal money to help the complex.

The private sector interest in the development could mean less public money would be needed to help the project, he said.

“I think a lot of the negotiations that are going on are behind closed doors for very good reasons,” Goguen said.

The Aquilini family, which is estimated to be worth $5 billion, already owns the Crowne Plaza hotel and now, they've just bought the whole city block around the Moncton hotel.

The block includes the old YWCA building, the former SMT bus terminal and the parking lots that link the buildings.

The family also owns the Vancouver Canucks and the stadium the hockey team plays in, Rogers Arena.

The development company also owns hotels, office buildings, at least 45 Pizza Hut franchises, a golf course and a movie set.

The Aquilini family’s track record in the sports and entertainment industry would be an important asset for Moncton.

There have been ongoing discussions, and a series of reports, surrounding the need for a new $100-million downtown facility that would replace the 40-year-old Moncton Coliseum.

The new venue would help the city attract bigger entertainment acts during winter months.

A consultant recommended building a 9,000-seat hockey rink in 2009, which would be an improvement on the coliseum's seating capacity of 7,200.

Another task force report, which was launched by the city, called for a downtown sports and entertainment complex.

Revitalizing downtown Moncton

Thompson said the high profile of the Aquilini family also gives Moncton's project a boost.

“The good news story is that we have a company that's very diverse, that has experience in the sports industry ... taking up the major part of our downtown,” he said.

Thompson said this land deal and the closure of Highfield Square mall are likely to be critical in the eventual revitalization of the city's downtown.

"I don't think anything's coincidence. I mean you have to look at the history of the family, in terms of they've been buying property. They've been diversifying their business and they do things strategically," he said.

"So I would think that what's happening with the [Highfield Square] property is related to what's happening across the street."

The Enterprise Greater Moncton official said it is important to realize how far the city has come in the last few decades.

“There was a time in Moncton when the downtown was boarded up, but now we're at a point where when companies come in, such as we're seeing now,” he said.

“They're buying large chunks of land, large lots of land.”

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Personal note - They interviewed John Thompson on CBC Radio about this this morning as well. In the interview, he rambled on a little bit about other positive developments in the greater Moncton area (such as the new McKesson distribution centre. He did let it slip that UPS had chosen Moncton to be a regional air cargo hub. We have speculated on this before, but this is as close as we have come to a formal announcement.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 1:53 PM
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From today's Times & Transcript

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Development
Condo project planned for Riverview

By Eric Lewis

Times & Transcript Staff
19 Jan 2012 08:40AM

A new high-end residential development appears planned for Gunningsville Boulevard, south of Findlay Park in Riverview.

A sign on the property near Riverview’s toboggan hill advertises phase one of a condominium project called The Villas At Brydon Brook, referring to a brook that runs behind the land in question.

According to the sign, phase one of the project is planned for 2012. The two-bedroom, two-bath condos are advertised as 1,400 square feet (130 square metres) each, with private balconies and a garage for each.

The condos start at $239,900.

More to follow.
http://www.telegraphjournal.com/tjonline...planned-project-riverview-brook.html.csp
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 2:22 PM
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As a retro retail and shopping mall enthusiast I was wondering if anybody has any old photos of Highfield Square or knows of any sources of where i can obtain copies?

The mall opened in 1969 and looks it on the outside, but from what ive seen on my visits to Moncton the inside is a result of a late 80's early 90's renovation so all the grooy 1960's features and decor are long gone. I always wondered if there was ever a fountain, tree's/planters or a sculpture in its center court. Any info would be great!
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 5:46 PM
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On Monday's CBC NB news they showed black and white footage of the mall from the 70s. You can probably still find it online.

[Found it: http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/NB/1305552294/ID=2187620491 ]
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 9:40 PM
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On Monday's CBC NB news they showed black and white footage of the mall from the 70s. You can probably still find it online.

[Found it: http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/NB/1305552294/ID=2187620491 ]
What a horrible report from the CBC. It doesn't shock anyone about the closer of the mall, it was just a matter of time. The time has now come.

The hand full of shop owners left in the mall shouldn't be shocked either. Month to month leases should tell you something.

As for the destruction of The Bay square brink box, I'm glad to see it bulldozed. That ugly building does (did) nothing for me.

Can't wait to see those architectural renders of the new arena.

And that female reporter at the end of the news clip made it sound like downtown Moncton was in complete despair.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 9:58 PM
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What a horrible report from the CBC. It doesn't shock anyone about the closer of the mall, it was just a matter of time. The time has now come.

And that female reporter at the end of the news clip made it sound like downtown Moncton was in complete despair.
It's a pretty common angle from the mainstream news media: downtown is crumbling! You get it in Halifax all the time. Mall closures like this say more about changing retail tastes than they do about the health of a downtown IMO.

I don't know Moncton that well, but from my few visits it's obvious that mall sucked the life out of that section of town. Just a couple of blocks away there's some great main street areas, but that mall was not pulling it's weight. A sea of parking draws no one downtown. Time to move on to something more in tune with a vibrant, pedestrian-scaled downtown. This is a huge opportunity for Moncton.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 10:22 PM
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They also mentioned the classic "revitalization" and the need to "bring people back". Unfortunately lots of cities buy into those (somewhat facile) bits of advice and attempt to improve their downtowns by doing things like subsidizing major retailers, prettying up streets, or building parking garages.

I don't know a ton about Moncton either but I suspect the best way to improve the downtown would simply be to build more residential units in that area. If 10,000 people moved in there would be a market for far more retail, and those residents wouldn't need much parking. The city would save on servicing costs and downtown commuters would be going against traffic, reducing the need for new roads.

Because Moncton is a growing city it is perfectly realistic to redirect more development downtown. You don't need a huge market for high-end condos -- the infill can be a mix of townhouses and apartments. The loss of parking from building on the lots is pretty much a non-issue because if there's high demand developers will include parking in their proposals.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2012, 11:26 PM
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It's a shame to see the Bay leaving downtown. It's the only traditional department store we have left, after all. But I don't think it's actually added anything to the area. The rest of the mall is really only good at (marginally) filling in the streetscape along Main. Unfortunately the whole place is one storey except for a few small sections. A big empty low rise building is only slightly better than a parking lot.

Architecturally, there's nothing much worth keeping from the whole lot.

That said, I sincerely hope if the mall is demolished that something comes together quickly.


As for the rest of downtown... to an outsider, there hasn't been a lot of change in the past decade because Main has been relatively stable. There has been dramatic change everywhere else though. There has been an amazing resurgence along St George St, for example. Infill is finally starting to happen at a noticeable pace.
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Ok, take this with a grain of salt!!! we've been somewhat discussing the UPS warehouse and where it would be. Today I had heard from an airport employee that UPS is building a warehouse near MALLEY's, apparently the land has already been cleared off. I did drive by that area and noticed a section that has been cleared off just before Malley's. I'm not sure if this would be the location for UPS or not. Can someone have an ear to find out what is that land being cleared for. I know someone that works at Malley's and he had said that they will be building a new facility very close by or adjacent for their military contract. As an aviation enthusiast, I do welcome the news of UPS using Moncton as a air cargo hub I think we'll be losing 1 of the Purolator 727's but as long as one stays i'll be happy maybe if we're lucky we'll see some of the big birds that UPS flies. I think around Canada its the 757 and or the A300.
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