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Old Posted Dec 20, 2011, 12:42 AM
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Dunno, but I hope it is a union job.
now that was a good one, funny and dismissive all in one go.
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I got a picture of it in the bayers lake thread from not to long ago

I was also trying to figure out what it was, and i dont believe it is connected .
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It is another metro self storage facility.
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2011, 5:27 AM
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Terrible news IMO, I don't buy this absorbtion notion much with a lack of development.

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Halifax bucks trend in filling suburban office space


The continued popularity of suburban office space in the region stands in stark contrast to the rest of Canada, figures from a new report show.

According to the CB Richard Ellis Ltd. fourth quarter report on office and industrial trends, the average office vacancy rate in downtown cores across Canada fell to 6.1 per cent from 6.3 per cent. The suburban market rose slightly to 10.7 per cent.

In Halifax, the overall vacancy rate rose half a percentage point to 8.5 per cent in the fourth quarter, with the suburban office rate below the national average, at 7.4 per cent, while the downtown rate stood at 9.9 per cent.

The downtown rate is high because there was 110,000 square feet of absorption all year, 100,000 of which came when Nova Scotia Power Inc. moved into their new offices on Lower Water Street, explained Bob Mussett, the Toronto company’s senior-vice president and senior managing director for Atlantic Canada who is based in Halifax.

However, while the suburbs will continue to be the “preferred” location for users, the downtown office market will see a reversal of fortune in the next year or two, Musset said.

“We still see stronger fundamentals in the suburban market, but as new development is taking place downtown, both commercial and primarily residential, we think later in 2012, probably into 2013, we’ll see some improvement downtown,” he said.

Meanwhile, the industrial vacancy rate fell 50 basis points to 5.6 per cent; a turnaround after it jumped 70 basis points in the previous quarter. That’s lower than the Canadian average of 6.6 per cent.

“We’ve seen some good absorption this year in the industrial sector this year,” Mussett said. “In this last quarter, in particular, we saw pretty strong absorption.”

The “palpable” increase in business confidence as a result of the shipbuilding contract in October means that the industrial sector will continue to gain momentum, Mussett said.

“It’s not a surprise to us to see that continue to tighten,” he said. “There has been a very conservative approach to new development in this market for a long time, so we’ve seen no overbuilding and new space has been well matched with absorption.”

That demand will put some upward pressure on rents. For example, the average net rent at the Burnside Business Park is $7.35 a square foot, but that’s expected to change moving forward.

“We expect that to pierce $8 in 2012 just through demand,” Mussett said.
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Old Posted Dec 22, 2011, 10:11 PM
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I'm not surprised, in the least.

The article's mention of a 2012/13 turn-around for the beginnings of a shift toward urbanisation gives me optimism, not just for Halifax's and Dartmouth's downtowns (and even Bedford's waterfront to a degree), but the entire peninsula.

I'm looking forward to a big suburban slowdown, with a clear focus on building inward. The longer Halifax waits, the more risk it takes, the more expensive and difficult municipal budgets will become.
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From: http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/45479-spatz-sees-hole-heart-halifax

Spatz sees a hole in the heart of Halifax

December 22, 2011 - 6:54pm BY CHRIS LAMBIE BUSINESS EDITOR

Halifax developer Jim Spatz wants to fill the hole at the centre of the city he calls a doughnut.

The CEO of Southwest Properties Ltd. said human density on the peninsula has dropped drastically over the past 50 years.

“We’ve developed like a doughnut as a city; we’ve got a hollow centre and all the growth is happening on the outside,” Spatz said Thursday.

“We’ve got people getting on highways, getting frustrated by traffic and burning gas. We’re a very non-green city that way.”

The office market downtown is almost as bad as it was in 1990, “when the real estate world imploded,” he said.

“The downtown is ceasing to become a desirable place to have your office. The first reason it’s weak is because there’s no density downtown.”

There are some good bars and restaurants at the city’s core, he said.

“But it’s not at all vibrant and it’s a big mistake as a city to think that won’t hurt us in a lot of ways.”

He shakes his head over the recent uproar from community groups over the city selling the former St. Patrick’s-Alexandra School property to Jono Developments Ltd. That company, headed by Joe Metlege, has proposed a mix of residential, affordable housing and community space for the former school site.

“The people in that neighbourhood have to understand that it will improve their neighbourhood if they find a way to welcome lots of new neighbours in,” Spatz said.

“It will improve the services and the amenities and everything around them.”

Opponents have labelled the school sale as gentrification. That label rankles Spatz.

“What is better than a neighbourhood that’s mixed and diverse?” he said.

“And I don’t just mean young and old. I don’t just mean racial diversification. Socio-economic diversification’s a good thing. It’s not a good thing for a city to have some areas that are poor and others that are extremely wealthy.”

Spatz has a massive project of his own on his plate. He’s hoping to start construction in 2014 on the Rockingham property where the Sisters of Charity Motherhouse once stood.

The 10-year, $500-million project is slated to include various kinds of residential options, from single-family dwellings to townhouses, apartments and condominiums. Five per cent of those will be dedicated as low-income housing. About 4,000 people are expected to live there once the project’s completed.

“It’s a piece of land that was land-banked by virtue of its ownership by an order of nuns starting in the 1800s,” Spatz said.

“It’s right in the city, a kilometre from the peninsula, so you’re not far from the heart of things there.”

Southwest was already negotiating with the Sisters of Charity for the 25-hectare property long before the federal government announced this fall that it is handing $25-billion worth of work to Irving Shipbuilding. That means Irving’s Halifax Shipyard will be buzzing over the next three decades.

“It just makes the story a little better for us, too, for sure,” Spatz said.

“You’re on four-lane highway all the way to the shipyard and the shipyard is just under five kilometres from our site — those are all good things.”

Southwest is also working on a green apartment building in the city’s south end that should be ready for tenants in about five months.

“We are starting to get inquiries, which is very cool,” Spatz said of the $15-million Grainery Lofts, a 113-unit, six-storey project on South Bland Street.

He fears Irving’s massive shipbuilding contract will drive up prices in Nova Scotia, including construction costs. He refers to the phenomenon as the Norway effect.

“In Norway, when they discovered and started to develop North Sea oil, they were short on manpower for this big boom so a lot of people just migrated to that industry because the wages were so much higher,” Spatz said.

“It sort of forced sectors of their economy out of business. So we need to be careful in Nova Scotia with regard to making sure that we take this amazing opportunity and meet it the right way.”

That includes training unemployed people with skills needed by the shipbuilding industry, he said.

Spatz points to Newfoundland, where unemployment still sits at 13 per cent despite the fact companies trying to build refineries, mines and oil platforms can’t find people to do the work.

“They need to start training right away” in Nova Scotia to avoid the same fate, he said.

Unemployed Nova Scotians “and groups in our society that have had endemic unemployment for generations” should be targeted with training and education specific to shipbuilding, Spatz said.

“By 2050, almost all of the people of the world will live in cities. That’s going to happen in Nova Scotia,” he said.

“If they need to move to Halifax if they’re unemployed, give them training and give them good jobs. Most will come. You can’t force people. You’re not going to put them in handcuffs and take them to the community college and then get the RCMP to take them to work at the shipyards every day. That’s not going to happen. But most people will come.”

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Old Posted Dec 24, 2011, 1:30 AM
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Halifax does need more infill near the core but talking about a "doughnut" effect is a bit misleading. The peninsula is still the most densely populated part of the city and has a disproportionate number of jobs. There's also been tons of residential infill lately. There has been a dramatic positive transformation along Spring Garden Road for example.

Jim Spatz makes a great point about supposed "gentrification" that I have mentioned before. New housing brings in new amenities, businesses, and jobs that in many cases directly help existing residents. The tax base also helps the city and makes it possible to provide better services. It's not *at all* true that development around Gottingen must result in kicking out the existing residents or harming their standard of living.
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Halifax does need more infill near the core but talking about a "doughnut" effect is a bit misleading. The peninsula is still the most densely populated part of the city and has a disproportionate number of jobs. There's also been tons of residential infill lately.
I concur. The peninsula is dominant in population density, compared to the other regions within the HRM. The 'doughnut' effect previously mentioned, as facetious as this may appear, could be for the simple fact that both public space and a national historic site occupies the centre...hence the doughnut.

Regardless of Jim Spatz's pastry metaphors, he's quite right about Halifax's need to focus on peninsular development.
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Merry Christmas, all.
Happy Holidays.
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Halifax Firm's Design has Strip Appeal

If you put in paths, a rooftop garden and living space, is it really still a strip mall?
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2011, 12:37 PM
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strip malls are a funy thing; Jamieson's in Cole harbour is in a strip mall, but once inside it's like a pub in Ireland.
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According to an ANS bulletin the Palooka's gym building on Gottingen has been purchased by Shaw for Global TV's main offices. Currently Global TV is located in Burnside.
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According to an ANS bulletin the Palooka's gym building on Gottingen has been purchased by Shaw for Global TV's main offices. Currently Global TV is located in Burnside.
This is a positive. The more people downtown the better.
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Fantastic news.
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Old Posted Dec 30, 2011, 11:21 PM
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Wow! I'm surprised by this!

With the CBC set to do some major renovations of their own on Bell Road, I'm curious about what this Gottingen Street Global TV location will entail.

CTV: Perhaps you should consider a move to the downtown, as well?
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I'd say that CTV is close enough to downtown as it is. And, with the way things are looking, the neighbourhood that the CTV headquarters sits in (Young/Robie) Could see some dramatic improvements in the coming years.
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CTV is slightly closer than News 95.7, who are in the Young Street Eastlink tower, but say "From the heart of downtown Halifax" on their station idents.
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I'd say that CTV is close enough to downtown as it is. And, with the way things are looking, the neighbourhood that the CTV headquarters sits in (Young/Robie) Could see some dramatic improvements in the coming years.
Here's hopin!
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CTV is slightly closer than News 95.7, who are in the Young Street Eastlink tower, but say "From the heart of downtown Halifax" on their station idents.
It's like when suburban friends tell you that they're going 'downtown' when they're actually going to Dalhousie/Any other non-downtown yet peninsular location.
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CTV is slightly closer than News 95.7, who are in the Young Street Eastlink tower, but say "From the heart of downtown Halifax" on their station idents.
Didn't you hear there was a vote last month and the result was downtown has moved to the north-end because us fat Haligonians are blocking the view from the citadel?
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